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Old 11-20-2011, 06:43 PM
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Do you have a ground probe in the system? I'm assuming that you do not, which would explain why the GFI didn't trip...
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:21 AM
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Eheim Jagers FTW
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:21 AM
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Update.

The good
- Only lost one fish the golby the rest came out of hiding and are eating again
- removed the other heater and replaced both tank back up to temp
- Hammer and some zoe's are coming back slowly

The Bad
- Aiptasia outbreak going on
- Tank is green very green major algae outbreak I suspect this is due to tap water and prime for water changes as I could not get enough ro/di at the time
- Snail are dead and they smell really bad
- Toadstool is limper then me after my snip snip today
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:28 AM
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Eheim Jagers FTW
I have 4 300W titaniums sitting in a box that either shocked me... coocked the tank or just quit heating all together... and they were in fresh water LOL...
Just got 2 new jaggers and am happy as a clam again
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:38 AM
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Do you have a ground probe in the system? I'm assuming that you do not, which would explain why the GFI didn't trip...
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A GFCI will not trip if both the Hot and Neutral wires are exposed to the water at the same time ie; the seal on the heater let go and flooded the tube.
If you have a GFCI and a proper ground probe, the GFCI will trip.

FYI, without the ground probe, and both wires being exposed to water, you could have gotten a serious or even deadly shock if you touched the water.

Same can go for those of you out there with ground probes and no GFCI.
An exposed wire in the tank can flow back through the probe, possibly without issue, but you put your hands in there and tada, Christmas Tree. Especially if it's the Hot that's exposed.

Final thought;
Don't put all your equipment on one GFCI, unless you don't mind everything being tripped at the same time
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:52 AM
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My pumps have blown GFCIs for no reason.... cant use them on my returns or wont being the case now that its happened a few times...
I was told its the static or magnetic current they create that can trip them even though they are just doing thier job....
I use a probe on everything and its saved my life more than once...
If i were safe i would kill power before putting my hands in there...
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:08 AM
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To quote the Bean;

Both GFCI receptacles and GFCI circuit breakers are also susceptible to nuisance tripping. Ballast and motor loads create a complex signature that sometimes confuses GFCIs into thinking a fault has occurred.

Most quality build, in-line pumps have no possibility of water-to-motor contact.
This is one of the reasons I have opted for in-line with my upcoming Fowlr.

And my heaters will only be immersed, not submersed

sitandwatch's grief only reinforces this for me
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:19 AM
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Yup my inlines have no water to power possibilities unless something springs a leak lol
I keep my jagger heads above the water line just incase... its the powerheads that i worry about now...and stray current from the salt to the light fixtures if its possible...
not enough for me to go GF or turn the power off but im aware of it lol
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:26 AM
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I had a submersed heater leaking current last summer in my 125g Freshwater, so it went for a trip to the recyclers
And because of possible powerhead leaks, and them being so ugly...
I just scored a pair of MP10wES from Ryan

Oops, sorry sitandwatch...Hijack
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