Zeovit/Brightwell Neozeo Help/concerns

[ReefOcean]

Ah Okay, So what I understand, the consensus is that the probiotic step is designed to remove nutrients from all over the tank, when I was just considering what was located in the water (That can be caught by skimming and filters). I can use other methods if I want, as long as the same effect is being achieved.

If you think you can maintain a low nutrient environment without zeo (it is possible) then yes, go ahead and dose without that system, but be aware that most of those additives are designed to put back in a controlled way, what the zeo system is removing. Hope that makes some sense.

Okay, this was something I was worried about. So if I choose to go ahead with either method, I should definately fully reasearch the system requirments for each additive and not just read "hey, this stuff makes blue colors pop" and dump it in willy nilly.

If you're looking for a set and forget system, I'd look at all the Bio-pellets out there. They require exactly zero dosing once stabilized.

I was looking at these too. Not much info though compared to Zeovit. From the few "reviews" I read, some people experienced their corals becoming worse, with intense cyno blooms. Others werent very impressed with the changes and some were very happy. I just couldnt really find a comprehensive explanation or detailed success story to fully sway me into the biopellets.

Anyway, if you want a scientific insight into this topic (with empirical data and research documents), go here:

http://zeovit.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=76

Gary (mesocosm) has assembled a veritable library of information relevant to this topic and has paraphrased much of the research jargon into laymen terms (or close enough)

Will read, thanks a for the info.

[naesco]

If you are starting up a new system, don't add anything at all other than salt unless you have too.

[ReefOcean]

Sorry, i didnt mention. Starting a new setup but transfering everything from my old setup to the new

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Sorry, i didnt mention. Starting a new setup but transfering everything from my old setup to the new

Probiotic systems are harder to integrate into older systems than they are into new.

What's your experience level like?

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Probiotic systems are harder to integrate into older systems than they are into new.

What's your experience level like?

The tank wont be completely established. For starters, The equipment will be new. The skimmer, the pumps etc. I am currently running barebottem atm. The new system will have a sand bed. The only thing I was considering transfering over to the new tank will be LR and water.

I would prefer not to cook my rock, I may give select spots a good brushing. i may add a few new pieces of rock, and cycle again. I actually have about 50 pounds of dried rock/skeletons I smuggled back in a duffle from Oahu I might use for base.


As for experience, I have been doing SW for about 7, coral for about 5 and SPS for about 2 years.

[albert_dao]

Ah, lots of experience.

In that case, you should have no difficulty with a probiotic method as long as you pay attention to all your variables. You may also want to establish the bacteria in your new system for a couple weeks prior to adding any livestock.

[ReefOcean]

After some careful consideration, reading various messageboards and re-reading the instuction manulas of each system, I have opted to go with the Brightwell system for various reasons

1) I found the Brightwell instructions easier to follow and with better explanations
2) I have experience using various Brightwell products on and off and like them quite a bit (I swear by their calcium sup)
3) The Brightwell products a much cheaper
4)The dosing instuctions seem easier
5) If I am not satisified with the results or Neozeo, I will still have a low nutrient system and can slowly integrate in Zeovit or try something else that's new.


thanks for the help!