New Pisces Location

[Jamieh]

Imagine there being a problem with wild caught fish so a petition is put out that keeping any fish be banned in the City of Calgary. Is it better to sign this petition or do nothing. I would suggest in regards to such a petition the answer is to do nothing with the petition and send your Councillor some better suggestions.

Originally Posted by sphelps

Haha I don't think that at all, I don't agree with the petition on all levels, it's not perfect but IMO better than doing nothing.

[EmilyB]

I don't think this involves you. This petition is for Calgary.

[Jamieh]

Calgary this week, Winnipeg last week, when exactly should I put forward the actual truth?

Originally Posted by EmilyB

I don't think this involves you. This petition is for Calgary.

[saltcreep]

Originally Posted by Jamieh

Imagine there being a problem with wild caught fish so a petition is put out that keeping any fish be banned in the City of Calgary.

This was proposed in the City of Vernon (BC) a year ago. This is the slippery slope that I keep referring to. Marine ornamentals are an easy target...much easier than people believe.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Jamieh

Imagine there being a problem with wild caught fish so a petition is put out that keeping any fish be banned in the City of Calgary. Is it better to sign this petition or do nothing. I would suggest in regards to such a petition the answer is to do nothing with the petition and send your Councillor some better suggestions.

mmmmm slightly different I think but if an obvious problem came up relating to wild caught fish causing a problem like overpopulation or even ocean depletion and a petition was issued to not ban all wild caught fish but introduce some better regulation then yeah I'd sign. The petition in question by no means has the goal to completely bans puppies. It's major goal is to prevent BYB and online sales from such. Pet stores will do just fine working with rescues and reputable breeders, most probably do already.

[Jamieh]

The petition we are discussing from a few pages back states "Enact a Municipal bylaw prohibiting the sale of companion animals(ie dogs and cats) on all public and commercial properties" How that is not stopping reputable Pet Stores is beyond me.

Originally Posted by sphelps

mmmmm slightly different I think but if an obvious problem came up relating to wild caught fish causing a problem like overpopulation or even ocean depletion and a petition was issued to not ban all wild caught fish but introduce some better regulation then yeah I'd sign. The petition in question by no means has the goal to completely bans puppies. It's major goal is to prevent BYB and online sales from such. Pet stores will do just fine working with rescues and reputable breeders, most probably do already.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Jamieh

The petition we are discussing from a few pages back states "Enact a Municipal bylaw prohibiting the sale of companion animals(ie dogs and cats) on all public and commercial properties" How that is not stopping reputable Pet Stores is beyond me.

Simple:

Exemptions to the by-law shall include adoption events that are approved by the Mayor or that are sponsored by or located on the property of an approved rescue group or rescue individual.

No reason an "adoption event" can't be on going. A pet store will likely be able to get permanent exemption by continuously working with rescue organizations. Further down the road I would expect to see better regulation on breeders which will also allow pet stores to work with breeders as well.

[Jamieh]

You really believe the goal would be better regulation and would have an exemtion for Pet Stores? Come on already. A more realistic goal of this campaign would be to increase the ban on pets other than dogs and cats which could eventually lead to this industry.

Originally Posted by sphelps

Simple:

No reason an "adoption event" can't be on going. A pet store will likely be able to get permanent exemption by continuously working with rescue organizations. Further down the road I would expect to see better regulation on breeders which will also allow pet stores to work with breeders as well.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Jamieh

You really believe the goal would be better regulation and would have an exemtion for Pet Stores? Come on already. A more realistic goal of this campaign would be to increase the ban on pets other than dogs and cats which could eventually lead to this industry.

Yeap! The goal is clearly to prevent BYB and overpopulation not put pet stores out of business.

[Jamieh]

Then why not put that right there in the petition and leave out the commercial business part and I would bet that most people in the Pet Industry would be right behind you. And forget the ban part, put in restrictions and guidelines which reputatable Pet Stores already follow.

Originally Posted by sphelps

Yeap! The goal is clearly to prevent BYB and overpopulation not put pet stores out of business.