PENDING SPS shipment for all you hard core collectors..

[reefermadness]

Originally Posted by Oceanic

I understand where you are coming from and don't feel bad because it appears people are attacking you; however, this has been discussed more time than I can even count. The fact is that nobody is going to tell you the secret because it is a "trade" secret. If it were that easy then everyone would be doing it.

If its a trade secret how come nobody else in the trade knows the "secret"?

I understand if you found a legal loop hole and don't want to divulge but then at least answer that these are indeed ORA/Tyree corals.... Why have you not done that?

[don.ald]

"pedigree's for dogs cost $1000's of dollars and involve serious channels and paperwork."

cool, you sell dogs too paul? any pics?

oh wait. they're not from puppy farms are they?

[Gooly001]

I take random corals and put names to them, especially one's that people recognize, so that I can charge more money for them. So far it's working.

Thanks but I somehow I don't think you'll be wanting to buy my corals. Too bad.

Paul

[ElGuappo]

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals-Paul-

I take random corals and put names to them, especially one's that people recognize, so that I can charge more money for them. So far it's working.

Thanks but I somehow I don't think you'll be wanting to buy my corals. Too bad.

Paul

well i have been following the last few threads out of curiosity more than anything and of all the posts this one caught my eye more than any other... from a consumers point of view...

this seems like a pretty shady buisiness tactic... ya its great if you find someone willing to pay this mark up on a coral.... so you are taking corals that "LOOK" like the high end, high demand corals and give them their name and up the price regardless of what your actual cost is on these pieces !?!?

in all honesty i was considering an order until i read this post....
good luck with the gouging........
when one of my favy lfs's get a deal on coral so do i!!!!!!!!!!

[marie]

Originally Posted by ElGuappo

well i have been following the last few threads out of curiosity more than anything and of all the posts this one caught my eye more than any other... from a consumers point of view...

this seems like a pretty shady buisiness tactic... ya its great if you find someone willing to pay this mark up on a coral.... so you are taking corals that "LOOK" like the high end, high demand corals and give them their name and up the price regardless of what your actual cost is on these pieces !?!?

in all honesty i was considering an order until i read this post....
good luck with the gouging........
when one of my favy lfs's get a deal on coral so do i!!!!!!!!!!

ElGuappo, Paul's being sarcastic because he's getting tired of being accused....If you don't like the price then don't buy the corals..... It's only worth what someone will pay for it

[ElGuappo]

Originally Posted by marie

ElGuappo, Paul's being sarcastic because he's getting tired of being accused....If you don't like the price then don't buy the corals..... It's only worth what someone will pay for it

thats the thing about witten text you can never tell the context..... oops..

this still isnt something a vendor should be saying..just my opinion..

[Gooly001]

Good Morning,

Yes it is definitely is not something that a LFS should be saying and certainly not practicing. I apologize if my sarcasm was not conveyed through the post, however; if you were in my position you would be frustrated as well.

My point of the sarcastic remark was to make light of the fact that I have scoured the 4 corners of the world searching for ORA/Tyree look a like corals because they are so common, that's why ORA and Tyree have been known for; putting their names on commonly found corals (pls. read sarcasm here) and charging unsuspecting consumers premium money for them.

This I assure you is not the case. These corals are priced for a reason and the reason is that they are indeed rare to find in the wild originally and that's why they are expensive. Of all the millions of corals that are exported to North America, only a few are found to be worthy to culture by ORA or Tyree. Again, hence the price.

This person has no interest in buying from me because I assure you, he or she thinks that my prices are too high and if I was to relinquish my sources he/she can get their favorite LFS to bring it in and sell to them cheaper.

Or, he/she would also like to bring the same corals in themselves and sell it.

As a business man, it would be unwise for me to even entertain this and the only way that they feel that they can get what they want is by constantly accusing me of illegal importation because to their knowledge it is impossible.

So, I am constantly being put on the cross to defend myself. The only way to rid me of this is to come out and explain in text point to point on how it's done. And like I've expressed numerous times; it is not in my best interest to do so.

For example, I've always wanted to know how Cadbury puts their caramilk in their caramilk bar but after numerous emails and requests to find out; they still haven't told me how it's done. (pls read sarcasm here). And I'm sure Hershey thinks that this is unfair not to share their caramilk secret. Bad bad Cadbury...shady business.

To say that this person wants me to share my information with other LFS so that we all have a level playing field is pretty ridiculous in my eyes.

If your LFS feels that this is profitable enough for them, then maybe they should pursue and do the proper research on how to import/export. Until then, please do not accuse me of doing something that I've taken the time and efforts to research how to do.

Thanks and have a great day.

Paul

Originally Posted by ElGuappo

thats the thing about witten text you can never tell the context..... oops..

this still isnt something a vendor should be saying..just my opinion..

[kien]

This is getting very serious so I feel I need to chime in with something very important to- ooo look LOLcats!

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by kien

This is getting very serious so I feel I need to chime in with something very important to- ooo look LOLcats!

I'm sorry, we have a very strict "no cats" policy here on Canreef (ok, I just made that up, but it's a good policy, I think)

[Gooly001]

I find it very amusing that everyone who's been chiming in and challenging me tend to say: "I have no specific interest whatsoever". Yet they keep on at it.

SO if you don't care, and obviously you have no intentions of buying my corals because unless I give you Steve Tyree's phone number or ORA's farmer's contact and tell you how I get my corals will you let it alone.

This is not gonna happen

You like my corals via pics and the plagerized name (cause I have not originality) that I use on them or....you don't. If you don't please don't buy from me, I'd hate to have to send you my copy cat corals cause the ocean is full of them.

Thanks, I hope this will finally clarify my stance on this. This will be the absolute last time I will comment on this. (at least until the next flame comes around again).

Have a great one.

Paul