Tangs with HLLE

[PFisher]

I need some advice. I currently have a Regal tang and a Sailfin tang that are showing signs of HLLE. I have read everything that I can find on the subject, which contains nothing conclusive. I found that the main causes seem to be nutrition, dinoflagelates, copper, carbon and high nitrates.

I recently had a large outbreak of dinoflagelates and it was shortly after this that the HLLE started to show up. By raising the pH to 8.5 and cutting light for a few days I was able to eradicate most of that nasty brown slime. But now I need to know how to help the tangs. I feed Nori daily along with PE Mysis and occasional Spirulina Brine. I have started using Vita Chem and Cyclop-Eze. Is there anything else that someone could recommend to ensure that this is not a nutrition problem? All of the other fish seem fine.

It is a long story, but during startup this tank also had some copper in the system for the first few months. But the copper is now gone, corals and snails are doing fine.

I have removed the carbon. Tank stats are as follows:
200 gallon with sump and refugium
pH = 8.5
Ca = 520ppm
KH = 10 dKH
NO3 = < 5ppm
SG = 1.025

Thanks for any help that you can offer.

Patrick

[NuraNori]

We inherited a Regal tang with hole in the head. There's nothing along her lateral line though. I would call it pretty bad because there are rather large black splotches on both sides of her face. She was kept on brine shrimp in a tank filled with green hair algae so I'm pretty sure the poor diet along with nitrates (?) was the culprit. We've been feeding her mysis enriched with Vit C, Kent Zoe and garlic and try to give her nori every other day. Also some vitamin enriched pellets with spirulina. We've had her for a year and she hasn't gotten worse and she's fattening up. So I think she's in as good a shape as she's gonna get. From what I've read you can't reverse it, but as long as it's not getting any worse and they're eating well they're gonna be fine. Good luck!

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Some sources claim its due to not enough seaweed in their diet. I feed lots of nori sheets & haven't seen this problem in my fish.

[naesco]

Originally Posted by PFisher

I need some advice. I currently have a Regal tang and a Sailfin tang that are showing signs of HLLE. I have read everything that I can find on the subject, which contains nothing conclusive. I found that the main causes seem to be nutrition, dinoflagelates, copper, carbon and high nitrates.

I recently had a large outbreak of dinoflagelates and it was shortly after this that the HLLE started to show up. By raising the pH to 8.5 and cutting light for a few days I was able to eradicate most of that nasty brown slime. But now I need to know how to help the tangs. I feed Nori daily along with PE Mysis and occasional Spirulina Brine. I have started using Vita Chem and Cyclop-Eze. Is there anything else that someone could recommend to ensure that this is not a nutrition problem? All of the other fish seem fine.

It is a long story, but during startup this tank also had some copper in the system for the first few months. But the copper is now gone, corals and snails are doing fine.

I have removed the carbon. Tank stats are as follows:
200 gallon with sump and refugium
pH = 8.5
Ca = 520ppm
KH = 10 dKH
NO3 = < 5ppm
SG = 1.025

Thanks for any help that you can offer.

Patrick

Can you post a pic of both fish?
When did you set up your tank?

[PFisher]

Thanks for the tips. I will see if i can find some of the mysis with vitamin C.

To answer your question, the tank is about 9 months old. Pictures are a good idea, I will try and get a few good pictures tomorrow.

Patrick

[bruce]

I just wanted to let everyone know that many years back I puchased an emperator angel sub adult, that had severe head and lateral line disease. he appeared in really bad shape and the pet store gave him to myself at a greatly reduced price as even they had little hope for him.
I can't recall all the foods I had fed him, but always did give him a varied diet as I do with all fish, but there is One product that a friend gave me to try and I swear it was/is the answer to this HLL and yes it can most definatelty be reversed. The product as many know is called selcon concentrate Vitamin, and I soaked almost everything I fed him with this product. His HLL reversed in a very short period of time and after a few short months, the only indication that there had ever been a problem was some small slightly noticable scarring around a few areas on his head. All I can say is that I am firmly confident that it was the product that not only saved this fishes life ,but restored him to his former glory.
I hope someone else can or has benefited from this.

[Chaloupa]

I also have heard excellent results with Selcon. I use it ALL the time and none of my tangs have ever had an issue..however I feed a very very full diet for them....so I'd try adding selcon, increasing the things he eats (more varied, with things like Mysis, Emerald Entree, and many many other frozen foods enriched with vitamins)

[aquajeep]

i got a yellow tang for discount because he had pretty bad hlle. i added him to my system that was getting overgrown with all sorts of culerpa and hair algea.he picked away at it till it was under control after 4 months he showed good signs that he was getting much better and fatened up well. and then my anemone ate him lol.. oops