Help with sump design

[mrhasan]

Sump designs seem very intimidating to me and hence I am trying to keep it as simple as possible. There are one simple thing to note: I am using my HOB skimmer (remora) in the sump (blah! ) so I have decided not to have any big "skimmer" chamber in my sump. I will be using my 20L tank so here's the design I came up with:



Will this work? And I was wondering whether I should put the inlet pipe above the water level or submerge in the water.

Suggestions please

[Nano]

IMO ditch the ATO section out to allow for more room in the return section, and skimmer chamber. my sump was a 20L and found it super tight even with only 3 sections. make your return as large as you can, to allow for less chance of the pump running dry in the event that you forget to top off your ATO res. if your only having a 5g ato res. just use a bucket :P

[Proteus]

As ken said

Big return section and skimmer section. You may find in future your buying a in sump skimmer

You could alway get a 5 gal tank and mount it above or beside for remote reservoir

[subman]

20 gallon is a very small sump, I would drop one of the baffles. Probably make the return and refugium area one section and have the skimmer in the return section.


I personally would look for a bigger tank to use as a sump. Lots of people give away tanks that are perhaps scratched or otherwise cosmetically challenged that are perfect sump tanks.

I know you said your using the remora skimmer but always be prepared for the eventual upgrade.

[Mike-fish]

I would add a bubble trap. And keep in mind that you may want to upgrade the skimmer down the road.

[subman]

And as vital I think an ato is... I agree with Ken and Nick use some other container for ato water.

[maxcanada]

Bubble trap after skimmer for sure. I have now learnt mirco bubbles in dt sucks ><

[Nano]

Originally Posted by maxcanada

Bubble trap after skimmer for sure. I have now learnt mirco bubbles in dt sucks ><

^^^^^
This too

heres a basic 3 section sump, (3rd post)
http://www.3reef.com/forums/i-made/7...lp-140920.html

left to right- refugium/skimmer - return

the baffles on the first chamber you could get away with just one versus 2 as the bubble trap before the return would take care of it.

[mrhasan]

Thanks for the great advice everyone

I have just realized that making 20L as sump would be very very messy. Because, initially, I thought that I can just half fill the new tank, transfer everything over there, make the sump, connect the sump and turn it on. But its going to be very risky to test the system with fishes in (and might be expensive in case I have to refill the whole tank with saltwater). So I guess I will LF sumps/ugly tanks.

Thanks for the input on ATO too. I guess I will use those round blue water jugs; will be easier to refill too.

And I will definitely increase the skimmer section (maybe 8"? because I found out that really big skimmers are like 10") and the return section. Just one question; the level due evaporation is going to change at the return section right?

Oh Oh! And how much are the baffles gonna cost me? I have no idea about those :P

[Nano]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

And I will definitely increase the skimmer section (maybe 8"? because I found out that really big skimmers are like 10") and the return section.

yes most good skimmers are around 8"x8" foot print, for a small system, I'm not sure what your going with or your system size, but its always good to have a larger skimmer section then needed, i made the mistake of having too small of one and wanted a bigger skimmer but couldnt.

as for evaporation, if you install an ATO you wont have this problem, it will only fluctuate about an inch or so. thus keeping salinity pretty stable.

depending on who you talk to for baffles you may be able to get them pretty cheap, I know my sump cost about $30 or so to build with 3 baffles, Denny may have some garbage glass kicking around concept might be worth a phone call.