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02-16-2012, 06:52 AM
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Group Buy on Eshine leds
So.. I ve been doing a bit of research on Leds and I ended up deciding to go with Eshine Leds.
they have right now the newest 4G 48x3Watt Leds. Its fully dimmable. sunrise/sunset option http://www.eshinesystems.com/aqua/4g...ium-light.html I m going to be getting 3 fixtures, so i need 3 more fixtures in order for the price to drop. 6 fixtures and under is $400/ per fixture, 6 or more is $300/ per fixture now, they have two different designs as where the Leds sit. Thanks Last edited by TaioneReefer; 02-16-2012 at 07:06 AM. Reason: Thanks lastlight for link 
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02-16-2012, 07:06 AM
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oh, sweet they put it on, as i tried to look for it yesterday it wasnt on, and he said it wasnt on either.
but thanks !
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02-16-2012, 07:10 AM
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What confuses me about that site is:
1) how such a long and narrow fixture can have a uniform PAR spread (circles) in the diagrams 2) the PAR charts for other fixtures appears to be the same? I was looking at a monstrous 150x3W panel and the charts were the same as the 4G? The more people know the better chance you might have in finding more buyers which is why I'm asking.
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02-16-2012, 07:10 AM
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this is the other position of Leds http://www.eshinesystems.com/grow/4g...row-light.html
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02-16-2012, 07:11 AM
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That I will email them right now, I need to get that cleared up for everyone. will update asap
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02-16-2012, 07:13 AM
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I recall dealing with these guys for 3G in the past,for your information check and see if the full 100% power even come close to what the led are rated for.In my opinion its a shame that these arrays are made without giving the proper power to these led.On a second note they could have it more powered but will cost you more.Just my 2ct
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02-16-2012, 07:21 AM
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This is the Response I got back from them : The PAR Chart, which depends on the quantity of the led chips, also what kind of LED chips you use. The bridgelux only with PAR value 80-90% of Cree led. So of course, the 150x3W with high PAR value than 48x3w. Our 3g 150x3W only can use Bridgelux led, I recommend you use the Cree led; I do not hope you will be disappointed when you get the bridgelux unit.
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02-16-2012, 07:50 AM
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here is the response: Our 3 watt led chips working 2 watt, so 48x3w with full power of 96 watt, can up to 100 watt. Is Cree led, XPG R5 white and XPE D3 blue, best spectrums of Cree series. Lens of 30, 60 and 90 degree, which is optional. The colors are also optional, some special colors need to pay extra. Lumens: Blue 455nm 20-30 lm/ piece; White 12000K 100-120 lm/piece, which can check in the Cree.com. The 48x3w with programmable controller, which with function of dimmer and timer, so you do not need to buy timers.
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02-16-2012, 07:53 AM
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For what its worth here is some of the conversation that went on between peter a sales rep and my self.
Peter : 18:17:02 Welcome to E.shine Systems. Peter : 18:17:15 hi I: 18:17:19 hello Peter : 18:18:02 what kind of LED array you need? I: 18:18:39 to go over my tank of 6ft by 30" deep I: 18:18:56 can I have any array only in white Peter : 18:19:15 yes, no problem I: 18:19:36 what is the amperage these light run at full I: 18:20:51 on any array you carry these LED run at full blast 1500ma or 1000 ma or lower Peter : 18:21:07 700-750m I: 18:21:32 can i have them to run at 1500ma or and 1000ma Peter : 18:22:24 yes, but too high not good for the leds Peter : 18:22:27 yes, but too high not good for the leds Peter : 18:22:29 the warranty can not be 3 years I: 18:23:17 what would the problem be is it the fans or the array cannot handle that power Peter : 18:24:15 no, is the leds, high ma will hurt the leds I: 18:24:28 are these cree Peter : 18:25:00 we have cree and bridgelux I: 18:25:40 with cree whites should be able to run 1500ma and royal blue should run at 1000ma Peter : 18:25:44 is optional Peter : 18:26:00 yes, I know Peter : 18:26:20 but we do not recommend use so high I: 18:27:08 I know I ask simply because I build an array of cree and running them at full blast but with an AC fan I: 18:27:19 for 1.5 years now I: 18:27:41 as I like to use most of the power the led could offer Peter : 18:28:42 ok Peter : 18:28:54 ok Peter : 18:29:29 ok I: 18:30:05 do you use a mix of cree and bridgelox in every array or is it my choice Peter : 18:30:29 you need high mA,I can ask my engineers to adjust it Peter : 18:30:31 you need high mA,I can ask my engineers to adjust it Peter : 18:30:39 you need high mA,I can ask my engineers to adjust it I: 18:30:50 give me some pricing Peter : 18:31:28 is your choice Peter : 18:31:36 is your choice I: 18:31:56 I haven't cheked the entire webpage yet Peter : 18:32:00 which one? I: 18:32:06 what is 3g and 4g Peter : 18:32:32 which one? I: 18:32:56 under aqua I see 3G AND 4G Peter : 18:34:17 yes, 3g is the 3 generation Peter : 18:34:22 4g is new I: 18:34:45 what is the difference as there is nothing on the webpage Peter : 18:35:03 can I have your email? I: 18:35:32 XXXXXXEMAILXXXXX Peter : 18:35:42 yes, 3g is the 3 generation Peter : 18:35:46 4g is new I: 18:35:50 I like some bulk pricing on all your arrays I: 18:36:00 and one more question Peter : 18:36:01 yes, 3g is the 3 generation Peter : 18:36:04 4g is new I: 18:36:19 could you add 405Mw LED I: 18:36:32 thats near violet lighting Peter : 18:36:37 different material and design Peter : 18:36:40 different material and design Peter : 18:36:41 4g with better heat solution Peter : 18:36:41 ok Peter : 18:36:42 4g with better heat solution Peter : 18:36:42 ok Peter : 18:36:42 different material and design Peter : 18:37:22 yes I: 18:37:28 ........ETC................... I: 18:41:57 price on all that and email me back as this would be thankfull Peter : 18:42:12 is ok Peter : 18:42:38 but how many watt you need? Peter : 18:42:41 but how many watt you need? Peter : 18:42:55 50 watt or 100 watt? I: 18:43:02 you mean each lamp I: 18:43:11 would be the 3w ones I: 18:43:29 unless you could go hIgher Peter : 18:43:53 yes, each lamp Peter : 18:43:55 3 watt is ok Peter : 18:43:57 yes, each lamp I: 18:44:26 on the xxxnm would be nice to get the 5w Peter : 18:44:50 we just use 3watt now I: 18:45:11 thats fine Peter : 18:45:40 thanks I: 18:45:44 do you have any in Canada or the USA Peter : 18:45:57 reseller? I: 18:46:12 yes Peter : 18:46:32 yes, of course I: 18:46:41 who in Canada Peter : 18:47:00 do you like to be our reseller? I: 18:47:28 yes only if your product is what you say Peter : 18:48:04 yes, we are factory, can give competitive price to you I: 18:48:36 xxxxxxxx I: 18:48:44 and do xxxxxxxselling Peter : 18:48:54 is good Peter : 18:49:05 thanks I: 18:49:10 as I am axxxxxxxxx Peter : 18:49:26 looking forward to working with you Peter : 18:49:32 oh, I see I: 18:49:34 same here Peter : 18:49:37 great I: 18:49:41 I await the email I: 18:49:51 cheers and nice talking to you Peter : 18:50:39 is my pleaure Peter : 18:50:51 will send the email to you Peter : 18:51:15 you need to tell me which light you need, then I can quote to you Peter : 18:53:08 ok xxxxxxI: 18:54:23 ok I will email you tonight Peter : 18:54:40 ok, no problem Peter : 21:16:40 hi friend Peter : 21:17:16 I have sent email to you, have you got it? I: 21:49:58 yes I received it Peter : 21:50:21 good I: 21:51:41 from looking at the specs the highest current is 0.6 amps as I am looking for a 1000 ma and 1500 ma I: 21:51:52 is that duable Peter : 21:52:35 yes, duable I: 21:53:00 ok then price me on the following I: 21:53:09 3G and 4g Peter : 21:53:15 can adjust the mA Peter : 21:53:16 ok I: 21:53:21 how about dimming capability Peter : 21:54:11 some is dimmable I: 21:54:28 what kind of dimming I: 21:54:39 manual or programmable Peter : 21:55:03 manual and programmable I: 21:55:36 witch are dimmable Peter : 21:56:04 4g 48x3w programmable 24x3w manual Peter : 21:56:19 3g cree 60watt and washer I: 21:57:50 how about the 4g 168X3w Peter : 21:58:30 no, is not finished Peter : 21:58:44 but can not dim Peter : 21:58:51 do you like it? Peter : 21:59:04 we have one wireless controller I: 21:59:14 but have to wait FEB I: 22:00:14 until then I am sure I could move some of the other ones you have in stock I: 22:00:25 max ma and dimmables I: 22:00:46 are all 4g not available yet Peter : 22:00:46 ok Peter : 22:01:03 the 12x3w to 48x3w is ok Peter : 22:01:06 Mould -1 Peter : 22:01:18 the Mould-2 will finish in Feb Peter : 22:01:28 we have sample are testing now I: 22:01:56 how about the 60X3w Peter : 22:02:24 now, the supplier did not send the material to us now Peter : 22:02:36 we can make it, but without material I: 22:03:02 ok is anyone doing testing in Canada xxxxxx Peter : 22:03:44 yes, some just the 48x3w or 36x3w Peter : 22:03:51 is ok Peter : 22:04:05 we sell many to US Peter : 22:04:14 CA is less than US Peter : 22:04:23 xxxxxxx I: 22:04:34 xxxxxx I: 22:04:40 so what is the offer Peter : 22:04:53 yes, I think I can help you Peter : 22:05:33 what info you like to know I: 22:06:51 if you could give me full ma cree with a mix of blue white and violet in one array and be dimmable I think there is a market for it in Canada Peter : 22:07:49 you just add the violet to your lights are ok I: 22:08:04 how do you mean Peter : 22:09:02 I mean if you like your lights with blue, white and violet, you just add the some violet to the lights when you order, we will do that for you Peter : 22:09:11 you need the UV? I: 22:09:35 not 380 nm its the 425 nm I: 22:09:44 uv is 380nm Peter : 22:09:53 425nm is ok Peter : 22:10:04 UV is 380-420nm I: 22:10:20 ok Peter : 22:10:44 thanks I: 22:10:44 so what would a 48X3w cost on a scale Peter : 22:11:09 how many? I: 22:11:19 of course with max of 1500ma using cree and fully dimmable I: 22:12:01 give $ on 1 unit xx units xxx units and a xxxx units Peter : 22:12:02 1500ma, I need to talk our engineers first I: 22:12:10 ok Peter : 22:12:41 with programmable controller? I: 22:12:48 yes Peter : 22:12:53 ok Peter : 22:13:25 1-$$$usd Peter : 22:13:33 10-$$$usd Peter : 22:13:47 40-$$$usd Peter : 22:14:00 100-$$$USD I: 22:23:43 with those pricing you are the same some of the companies are out there I: 22:23:53 we need a wow array Peter : 22:24:33 yes? Peter : 22:25:28 this is the lowest price Peter : 22:25:55 Peter : 22:26:25 if we can sell lower, we will Peter : 22:26:38 we know the competitive is hardxxxxetcxxxxx and so no and on and on
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