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Old 08-06-2016, 03:06 AM
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Bayer Insecticide as a coral dip.

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Old 08-06-2016, 05:11 AM
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works good, good luck getting it
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:19 AM
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Just pick some up next time you're in the States.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:27 AM
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I use it, works great. I live close to the border so have easy access to get it in the US. One container will last a very long time, its amazing to see all the nasty's that fall off a frag when using this and from all the research ive done on the bayer dip...which is alot, it appears many find it quit gentle and less stressfull for the coral. Ive dipped about 20 frags using bayer and havent lost a frag. Just dont use it on more sensitive corals like smooth skin acros. There is a retailer in canada ive seen advertise this as a coral dip... Not sure i can mention the name so if you would like it pm me.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:40 AM
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Hmmm Im heading south on Tuesday, may have to grab a bottle if it works that well just for dipping new frags alone!
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Old 08-06-2016, 01:34 PM
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Be careful with this stuff though - because of it's intended purpose it is made to be water resistant so it needs to be rinsed very, very well. Also, the Bayer sticks to things like coral skeletons and plugs, not so much the coral flesh. A common method is dip, rinse and swish repeatedly in a container of clean saltwater, then place in a second container of clean water and let soak for 30 minutes swishing occasionally. Randy Homes-Farley has confirmed that carbon will help remove the insecticides listed on the bottle, but who knows what the other 98% is that's listed as "other ingredients". Some guys with long term Bayer use have reported RTN episodes in SPS tanks and suggest it may be from using Bayer long-term or not rinsing well enough, but as usual in this hobby it's tough to say if it is the Bayer or something else going on.

I find the dip is actually gentler on Acros than CoralRx - even smooth skinned Acros. I've not used Bayer on anything except SPS.

My own procedure for SPS is this: Remove frag plugs and clip off any bare coral skeleton, premix dip at 10 mL per cup, add frags for 10 minutes gently squirting coral with turkey baster. Move frags to clean saltwater for 5-10 minutes, swish them around fairly roughly, squirt them with a clean turkey baster. Glue frags onto new plugs, and move frags to 5-gallon QT filled with fresh tank water. They hang out there on a rack with heater and powerhead overnight with carbon pellets in the bottom of the tank. In the morning I light them with an actinic T8 bulb all day, and if they look good they get moved into the display tank that evening when the tank lights are out. Also, the dip is milky so you can't see anything that comes off - I pour it through a paper coffee filter when I'm done and look at what is caught.

For a short period of time you could order this from Amazon.ca with free shipping, and it cost I think $25. There are a few options on Amazon.com and one has reasonable shipping to Canada - about USD$42 for product, tax, and shipping. It sounds a bit pricey, but if you use the same dosage I do (10 mL per cup of saltwater) this bottle will make 118 cups or a bit more than 31 gallons of dipping solution.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A2T7WSWA5C9AVQ
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Looks easy enough to get and a reasonable price.
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Bayer-Advan...0270/100658964
Im assuming thats the correct stuff.
Might be worth a go on my next coral order. Never had a bug issue in the past.
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Looks easy enough to get and a reasonable price.
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Bayer-Advan...0270/100658964
Im assuming thats the correct stuff.
Might be worth a go on my next coral order. Never had a bug issue in the past.
That's USA Home Depot. Did you find it on the Canadian site?
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That's USA Home Depot. Did you find it on the Canadian site?
Didn't look on a Canadian site. You guys all seemed to say US only. I'm going down to the US tomorrow so if I can find some there I will grab a bottle.
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Old 08-09-2016, 01:57 AM
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It's only available in the States. It is illegal to use in Canada.

Edit. Not illegal, it's a restricted product.
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