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Zoaelite 11-13-2012 03:35 AM

AquaVitro Salinity Reef Salt
 
Anyone else running this at the moment? Would like to see if anyone else is getting different tested values compared to their independent lab analysis.

It's telling me that their calcium level for 1.026 is 407ppm, two separate test kits of mine have now confirmed the level to be well over 540ppm.

Lot number 56369.00.

In addition to this I'm getting an insoluble material that floats on the surface, very small white crystals that have yet to dissolve after 36 hours of mixing...

Time to swap back to Reef Crystals me thinks?

mrhasan 11-13-2012 03:45 AM

I use salinity. My mix is always pinpoint at what the label claims (I test for calc and alk only). Takes around 24hours to dissolve clearly. No suspended matter though.


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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 763607)
Anyone else running this at the moment? Would like to see if anyone else is getting different tested values compared to their independent lab analysis.

It's telling me that their calcium level for 1.026 is 407ppm, two separate test kits of mine have now confirmed the level to be well over 540ppm.

Lot number 56369.00.

In addition to this I'm getting an insoluble material that floats on the surface, very small white crystals that have yet to dissolve after 36 hours of mixing...

Time to swap back to Reef Crystals me thinks?


Zoaelite 11-13-2012 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 763612)
I use salinity. My mix is always pinpoint at what the label claims (I test for calc and alk only). Takes around 24hours to dissolve clearly. No suspended matter though.

You don't have the lot # of your last batch by any chance?

mrhasan 11-13-2012 04:21 AM

There you go :)

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/...1-12222446.jpg

Proteus 11-13-2012 04:27 AM

This is what they told me when I talked to them


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Hello Nick,

An alkalinity of 9/10 dKH and a magnesium of 1400 mg/L are within specification. A calcium of 590 is not. I checked the certified lab results and they show a calcium of 436. Have you double-checked the calcium concentration with another method or maybe you could have someone else test it for you?

I suggest not using a heater and don't mix it too long to avoid excess cloudiness. If you are using a large powerhead this will also cause precipitation. Mixing too long or mixing too hard (as with a large powerhead) will introduce excess CO2 which causes precipitation of carbonates. Elevated temperatures will reduce the solubility of calcium carbonate also creating precipitation.

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So I asked should I remove the powerhead and heater from my set up......

Proteus 11-13-2012 04:31 AM

And this. Don't know why you shouldn't mix for more than 24hrs. My cubes been mixing since march.

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The cloudiness in salinity is due to the high concentration of quality materials we use. Cloudiness is more prominent in buckets that have higher calcium and alkalinity levels. How do you mix your salt and to what salinity? Here we mix it in a 50 gallon drum at room temperature for no more than 24 hours.

mrhasan 11-13-2012 04:31 AM

I don't use heater. I dissolve mine in a bit warm water (possibly around 85). The solution itself is exothermic and produces excess heat. I just use a maxijet 400 to dissolve 2-3gallon of saltmix for 24hours.

Zoaelite 11-13-2012 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus99 (Post 763620)
This is what they told me when I talked to them




So I asked should I remove the powerhead and heater from my set up......

The statement made by Aquavitro, in addition to these values scares me enough to swap back to RC.

Under normal circumstances a salt mix should never be concentrated enough to allow for calcium bicarbonate precipitation (@NSW 1.026 values). The only way to do this would be vastly increasing ambient CO2 levels or altering internal water chemistry AWAY from NSW values. The levels of excess calcium being detected could very well be the source of super saturation and conversely the precipitate/ cloudiness.

As you stated why would I add a salt to my tank that doesn't work well when heated, mixed thoroughly or exposed to CO2? These are all key components in my reef aquarium...

Aquattro 11-13-2012 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 763636)
As you stated why would I add a salt to my tank that doesn't work well when heated, mixed thoroughly or exposed to CO2? These are all key components in my reef aquarium...

That's what I got out of their comments as well. Awesome salt, just don't add water to it :)

mrhasan 11-13-2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 763636)
The statement made by Aquavitro, in addition to these values scares me enough to swap back to RC.

Under normal circumstances a salt mix should never be concentrated enough to allow for calcium bicarbonate precipitation (@NSW 1.026 values). The only way to do this would be vastly increasing ambient CO2 levels or altering internal water chemistry AWAY from NSW values. The levels of excess calcium being detected could very well be the source of super saturation and conversely the precipitate/ cloudiness.

As you stated why would I add a salt to my tank that doesn't work well when heated, mixed thoroughly or exposed to CO2? These are all key components in my reef aquarium...

Yap this salt is possibly the most controversial salt out there in market. People mainly leave this salt because of the precipitation but people who stayed with this salt always admired it.

I am sticking with this is because I don't need to buy any test kit other than nitrate and phosphate. Atleast for this batch :D


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