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Basile 10-14-2013 01:46 PM

am i being a Sissy
 
Ok i have this rock work that weighs about 60lb, now i know are tanks holds thousands of pounds of water, i have a 150G . And i'll add sand and about 180 lb of rocks. But the sculpture i made has a "V" shape as you can see in the picture. I've built a support structure that is now failling and craking all over. That in mind i'm getting worried that the weight is too great on that one spot. If i cut the stands legs and put the structure directly on the sand, do you think its going to be ok, or just get rid of the whole feet all together and put the 16"X7" base rock directly on the glass be a better choice. 60Lb on an area 16"X7" is that too much for any glass. Any thoughs. Some of you must have done structure i'm waiting for your inputs thanks in advance. Maybe i'm over thinking this, just let me know.


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...Photo011-3.jpg

Proteus 10-14-2013 02:34 PM

That's sweet

Consider drilling holes and using acrylic rod to hold together

Basile 10-14-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 851509)
That's sweet

Consider drilling holes and using acrylic rod to hold together

I dont know if your joking but if you look at the picture thats exactly what i did actually nylon rods with nuts and further more its all cemented , the last one will have a stalactite comming down.

SoloSK71 10-14-2013 03:14 PM

As long as the bottom glass of your tank is supported on plywood or similar you will be fine with that structure.

Charles

Proteus 10-14-2013 03:31 PM

I'm on iPhone so pics small. I though the support was a PVC piece.
Would be better if it were hidden though

sphelps 10-14-2013 03:51 PM

The rock will obviously weight a lot less in water, the weight of the water displaced can be subtracted from the rock weight to get the apparent. The density of rock varies but it's often not much heavier than the water itself. Actually recently seen a piece of rock float in a tank :neutral: So basically don't be concerned about the weight of your structure on the glass, it's also much stronger than the plastic PVC frame you built.

The structure you made looks awesome btw.

Basile 10-14-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 851521)
I'm on iPhone so pics small. I though the support was a PVC piece.
Would be better if it were hidden though


It will be hidden under 2 " of sand and the support right under the rock will be foamed and then sanded with resin epoxy. Nothing will show.

Basile 10-14-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 851528)
The rock will obviously weight a lot less in water, the weight of the water displaced can be subtracted from the rock weight to get the apparent. The density of rock varies but it's often not much heavier than the water itself. Actually recently seen a piece of rock float in a tank :neutral: So basically don't be concerned about the weight of your structure on the glass, it's also much stronger than the plastic PVC frame you built.

The structure you made looks awesome btw.

Thanks, i've got other sculptures on my thread , take a look; http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98466

WarDog 10-14-2013 04:06 PM

Basile, I too am planning a custom rock sculpture in my build. I would suggest removing your pvc base and replacing it with 4 or 5 rock feet. I was planning to use all rock with a nylon or pvc skeleton as you have done.

Basile 10-14-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 851533)
Basile, I too am planning a custom rock sculpture in my build. I would suggest removing your pvc base and replacing it with 4 or 5 rock feet. I was planning to use all rock with a nylon or pvc skeleton as you have done.

Their's only one problem it doesn't solve the focused weight problem, the 60lb will be focused on these two rocks foot print. No , i've just got an idea, Lowes has pre-cut plexiglass that i can buy. Then i'll rebuild another support system with 1" pvc this time and still put eveything on a plexiglass who'll spread the total weight along its entire area of the panel and protecting the glass at the same time. Thanks for your inputs guys.:biggrin:


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