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Milad 04-01-2010 10:46 PM

how many times a hour should the water go through the sump?
 
just wondering how many times an hour should the tank water go through the sump? 1? 5? 10?

xtreme 04-01-2010 11:17 PM

I would aim for about 3-5x per hour.

golf nut 04-01-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Milad (Post 507038)
just wondering how many times an hour should the tank water go through the sump? 1? 5? 10?

If you have selected the correct skimmer and the flow in the tank is moving the water towards the overflow box then.. 2 or 2 1/2 times max.

Zoaelite 04-01-2010 11:30 PM

There is really no set amount, slow or fast both work the same. Mine is set at about 800GPH swap over or almost 5 complete tank volumes.

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Originally Posted by Mr OM (Post 507043)
If you have selected the correct skimmer and the flow in the tank is moving the water towards the overflow box then.. 2 or 2 1/2 times max.

Why a max of 2?

golf nut 04-01-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 507046)
There is really no set amount, slow or fast both work the same. Mine is set at about 800GPH swap over or almost 5 complete tank volumes..
Levi


Actually skimmers work best at a 1 times turnover, that's how they are designed, beyond that they become less efficient.

Zoaelite 04-01-2010 11:45 PM

I was waiting for someone to make this argument, please explain to me why that would be?

If a skimmer draws in water @ a set rate which is completely unrelated to the water movement around it then why would slowing that water down increase its efficiency?
Levi

golf nut 04-01-2010 11:50 PM

It's quite simple, if you run a lower turnover rate the water(containing surfactants) coming from the overflow box is concentrated rather than being 10% crap and 90% water in a 10x rate, the skimmer does a far more effective job with a concentrated solution than a diluted one.

freezetyle 04-02-2010 12:12 AM

By that logic, the same amount of water would pass through the skimmer would it not?

Theoretically:
1gph=100% skimmed
10gph= 10%/gal

I dont really have a preference. As long as water gets skimmed its a win situation.

golf nut 04-02-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by freezetyle (Post 507052)
By that logic, the same amount of water would pass through the skimmer would it not?

Theoretically:
1gph=100% skimmed
10gph= 10%/gal

I dont really have a preference. As long as water gets skimmed its a win situation.

If you skim it 100% then what you return to the tank is clean, if you skim 10% of it then 90% of what you return is dirty or unskimmed, why would you do that when it costs more money in hydro and pumps to do worse?

freezetyle 04-02-2010 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr OM (Post 507053)
If you skim it 100% then what you return to the tank is clean, if you skim 10% of it then 90% of what you return is dirty or unskimmed, why would you do that when it costs more money in hydro and pumps to do worse?

I understand that. But say, someone was using there return pump for extra flow to their tank. The extra water movement through there wouldn't technically affect the skim-mate that is pulled out of the water.

That being said, there is no actual way to test out these theories as a skimmer pulls out skim-mate in both situations. This test would be almost impossible because everyones tank (or say a "test tank") would differ from one another so getting a control would be practically impossible. I am not saying your opinion is wrong/invalid , I am just saying that in my opinion the flow rate through your sump isn't a big thing to lose sleep on.


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