Grizz's 8' - 300 gal + 60 gal + 30 gal OMG Build!!

[The Grizz]

Alright boys & girls here we go again........FINALLY!!

I have been trying to get this build going for well over a yr now & have been thinking / planning almost everyday.

This is the concept drawing that I mocked up many many many months ago & doesn't include the 60 gal cube or the 30 gal cube.

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[The Grizz]

First step was to replace the laminate floor where the new tank is going to be.




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Then came the building of the main stand & the 2 towers.

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Main stand painted and into the house.
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[jorjef]

Looks great... Shortage of wall plugs for power maybe.:question: where do you buy your steel from?

[The Grizz]

Looks great... Shortage of wall plugs for power maybe.:question: where do you buy your steel from?

Going to be running a dedicated circuit from the power panel in my boiler / pool filter room that is downstairs & opposite side of the room once the tank is plumbed, pushed back to the wall & towers are in place.

I have a couple local steel supplies here in town that I buy from.

[The Grizz]

Now that the stand is in the floor is done & stand is in the house I guess it is time for a few LITTLE pieces of glass

Bottom, sides & back together.
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Bottom of the overflow setting
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Front of the overflow & back cleat done.
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[Nano]

Sure you will tell the whole world before me!! And here I thought we were friends :twised:

Congrats dude!!



Sound familiar?! :twised:

Bout' friggen time dude! Glad to see some progress!

What's the status on the front pane? Get a new piece yet?

[The Grizz]

Sound familiar?! :twised:

Bout' friggen time dude! Glad to see some progress!

What's the status on the front pane? Get a new piece yet?

What you talkin bout Willis!! You seen pics of the stand before anyone else :razz:

Front pane is going one this weekend when I have more help around, it's a touch heavy.

[Nano]

What you talkin bout Willis!! You seen pics of the stand before anyone else :razz:

Front pane is going one this weekend when I have more help around, it's a touch heavy.

dang I'd help but Avas first bday party is this weekend! Good to hear you got some new glass. And yeah I guess I did see it first :-P

[Zoaelite]

This thing is a BEAST! Subscribed.

[The Grizz]

dang I'd help but Avas first bday party is this weekend! Good to hear you got some new glass. And yeah I guess I did see it first :-P

Didn't replace the front starphire, I actually polished out the scratches.

[The Grizz]

This thing is a BEAST! Subscribed.

True that!! I though my 165 was big but after looking at them both in the same room, IT'S HUGE!!

[lockrookie]

Following as always

[mrhasan]

You went on a rampage with the drill didn't ya? :razz:

I was just wondering whether the 8 holes below the coast-to-coast is for return (I don't know anything about close loop so please don't mind my ignorance :redface:)? If so, won't the water drain till the lowest holes in case of power failure?

[Delphinus]

I do not envy you, sir, your future water changes. However, everything else, yes, jealous. Carry on..

[The Grizz]

You went on a rampage with the drill didn't ya? :razz:

I was just wondering whether the 8 holes below the coast-to-coast is for return (I don't know anything about close loop so please don't mind my ignorance :redface:)? If so, won't the water drain till the lowest holes in case of power failure?

No closed loop ever again especially on this tank. In therory yes it would drain to lowest point in the event of a power outage but I will have several check valves as well are a large battery back up for each return pump.

[The Grizz]

I do not envy you, sir, your future water changes. However, everything else, yes, jealous. Carry on..

Planning a auto water change system as well, going all out this time.

[mrhasan]

No closed loop ever again especially on this tank. In therory yes it would drain to lowest point in the event of a power outage but I will have several check valves as well are a large battery back up for each return pump.

Aha. Now it makes sense. Batteries....very reef safe (as long as its outside the tank :razz:)

[The Grizz]

Aha. Now it makes sense. Batteries....very reef safe (as long as its outside the tank :razz:)

And if the power goes out for to long I just take my truck down to my power pole & plug my welder into a socket, will run the whole house.

[mrhasan]

And if the power goes out for to long I just take my truck down to my power pole & plug my welder into a socket, will run the whole house.

So I am assuming you plan on running the pumps even during maintenance?

(Gonna learn a lot from this build for my...ummm...future build :D)

[The Grizz]

So I am assuming you plan on running the pumps even during maintenance?

(Gonna learn a lot from this build for my...ummm...future build :D)

No there will be gate valve to completely shut off ALL FLOW if I need to but using the DC pumps I can decrease the flow slowing to make sure the check valves seal shut. Once I get to the plumbing you will understand better.

[mrhasan]

No there will be gate valve to completely shut off ALL FLOW if I need to but using the DC pumps I can decrease the flow slowing to make sure the check valves seal shut. Once I get to the plumbing you will understand better.

Awesome :D Can't wait!

[FishyFishy!]

This is gonna be siiiiiiick!

[sphelps]

This looks good! And interesting as well, do you have any plumbing schematics you can post?

[Skimmerking]

looking great Greg well done

[mseepman]

Looking awesome! Can't wait to see how you plumb this bad boy!

[The Grizz]

This is gonna be siiiiiiick!

looking great Greg well done

Looking awesome! Can't wait to see how you plumb this bad boy!

This looks good! And interesting as well, do you have any plumbing schematics you can post?

Thanks guys, it will be a challenge to plumb but I do have a plan in my head on how I want to do the plumbing, now as long as I can get it out of my head and make it look they way I want is another question. I am going to be doing a dual bean animal style OF and still have to divide the OF box in half.

[kien]

wow, looking good! And here I thought that this tank was just one of your many pipe dreams :-)

:pop2:

[lastlight]

going to be really nice the ultra thin skim of the surface you'll be able to do with that thing. clever idea to porop the glass up too!

[Snappy]

Looks like a cool project. That is a lot of holes drilled in the back. What pump are you going to use to run the closed loop?

[kien]

What pump are you going to use to run the closed loop?

:lol: ya Greg, tell us all about your closed loop !! We want to know more bout this awesome closed loop you're planning for this tank. We all know how much you LOVE closed loops.

[mseepman]

I assume that you've read up on all the bean animal stuff, but just thought I would mention how its been brought up several times on his RC thread how tough it can be to make a double BA setup work the way you want it to. I run a regular BA and love it...though I've had some challenges with it initially.

[Bblinks]

Looks great. you now have another groupie.

[michika]

And another one.

[The Grizz]

wow, looking good! And here I thought that this tank was just one of your many pipe dreams :-)

:pop2:

I to thought it was never going to happen but it is on like donkey kong now.

going to be really nice the ultra thin skim of the surface you'll be able to do with that thing. clever idea to prop the glass up too!

It was a very ingenious thought I had for sure, wasn't sure how at first how I was going to get the bottom of the OF set but I hit me like a bad case of the tropical runs. :twised:

Looks like a cool project. That is a lot of holes drilled in the back. What pump are you going to use to run the closed loop?

:lol: ya Greg, tell us all about your closed loop !! We want to know more bout this awesome closed loop you're planning for this tank. We all know how much you LOVE closed loops.

ABSOLUTELY NO closed loop, those are all return lines.

I assume that you've read up on all the bean animal stuff, but just thought I would mention how its been brought up several times on his RC thread how tough it can be to make a double BA setup work the way you want it to. I run a regular BA and love it...though I've had some challenges with it initially.

Yes I have read up a lot on the BA and most are only taking on 2000 gph, I will be pushing A LOT more flow. There is going to be 4 DC10000 pumps for my returns that way I can control how much flow I get in every 2' of tank length.

[FishyFishy!]

Did you not like your closed loop system on the 165? Why would you not do it again?

I'm planning my closed loop right now and it would be nice to know why you chose not to do it again lol.

[sphelps]

FYI you could plumb that tank in a way to prevent it from draining without the need to rely on check valves or batteries. You could also run some of the pumps inline with the overflow to form a "sort of" closed loop, it would prevent the massive amount of sump turnover :lol: I can't help it, I just can't take it anymore, I need to know your plumbing plans. 4 return pumps and glass that looks like swiss cheese, if that doesn't get you existed nothing will :redface:

[The Grizz]

Did you not like your closed loop system on the 165? Why would you not do it again?

I'm planning my closed loop right now and it would be nice to know why you chose not to do it again lol.

If you look back on my 165 build you will see how It was done but to describe it the way the owner of Ocean Motions told me how to do it was like this:

One 1.5 intake hole in the tank with a manifold type system that had 4 -1.5" intake port spread across the back of the tank, all with a screen to keep fish from getting sucked in, I used some perforated acrylic that had 1/8" holes in it. They had to be cleaned on a regular basis so they had to be accessible & when sand got in the intake and hit my OM 4way the drum would get stuck. If it didnt get stuck it would grind groves into the drom and housing which had totally wreaked my 4way.

[kien]

glass that looks like swiss cheese, if that doesn't get you existed nothing will :redface:

So far all we know is that those holes are for his closed loop.

[The Grizz]

FYI you could plumb that tank in a way to prevent it from draining without the need to rely on check valves or batteries. You could also run some of the pumps inline with the overflow to form a "sort of" closed loop, it would prevent the massive amount of sump turnover :lol: I can't help it, I just can't take it anymore, I need to know your plumbing plans. 4 return pumps and glass that looks like swiss cheese, if that doesn't get you existed nothing will :redface:

Ok Steve I will give you a quick run down..........

Going to have 4 Dc10000 pump each with a 1" SCWD for every 2 parallel holes. Going to set the SCWD's so that the flow is alternating opposite the hole on either side. Now I know that they will probably not stay in sync but the flow will still be different every 2' instead of constant the whole length.

[The Grizz]

So far all we know is that those holes are for his closed loop.

NO DAMN IT!! NO CLOSED LOOP!!! :fish:

[sphelps]

Why not just skip the SCWD and build a controller to alternate the each pump cycle.

[The Grizz]

Why not just skip the SCWD and build a controller to alternate the each pump cycle.

Less to go wrong with the SCWD then going though all the trouble to build a controller and it not work right. Plus the DC pump ramp up slower then most pumps as you know.

[sphelps]

Less to go wrong with the SCWD then going though all the trouble to build a controller and it not work right. Plus the DC pump ramp up slower then most pumps as you know.

I guess it comes down to mechanical vs electrical. Typically I would agree on the mechanical being much more reliable as is with most things but I'd think those SWCDs will cause more issues once they start developing build up. but probably easy to pull them later if that happens.

Have you bought the pumps yet? The new ones have built in 0-10V ability, but aren't out yet. Pretty sure building a controller for the old ones wouldn't be all that difficult either. I've been waiting for someone else to do it so I can copy them, hence my suggestion :wink: In terms of reliability can't see much going wrong, never had issues with controllable DC pumps like Tunze before, at least not relating to the controller portion of it.

[ensquire]

Tagging along on this one buddy, My question is:
Although you have tons of room, why did you decide to go with the internal overflow over an external one ?

Can't wait to see the closed loop setup :wink::lol:

[Delphinus]

Have you thought about a closed loop for this tank?

[The Grizz]

I guess it comes down to mechanical vs electrical. Typically I would agree on the mechanical being much more reliable as is with most things but I'd think those SWCDs will cause more issues once they start developing build up. but probably easy to pull them later if that happens.

Have you bought the pumps yet? The new ones have built in 0-10V ability, but aren't out yet. Pretty sure building a controller for the old ones wouldn't be all that difficult either. I've been waiting for someone else to do it so I can copy them, hence my suggestion :wink: In terms of reliability can't see much going wrong, never had issues with controllable DC pumps like Tunze before, at least not relating to the controller portion of it.

Sorry Steve not going to happen so you will have to find someone else to do your dirty work for you . I wass going to go with 2 OM 4way on 2 pump but the one I bought used last yr doesn't work, mag drive is FUBAR!!


Tagging along on this one buddy, My question is:
Although you have tons of room, why did you decide to go with the internal overflow over an external one ?

Can't wait to see the closed loop setup :wink::lol:

Dont want to try and notch out 3/4 glass for and external, I don"t mind internal OF boxes.

Have you thought about a closed loop for this tank?

One more mention of a *^&%$*% closed loop I will close this build thread and no one will get to see the end result. :twised:

[ChefFish]

Looking great Grizz, can't wait to see the front pane on!

[fishytime]

looking good Greg....so where do the other two tanks fit into the picture?

[The Grizz]

Looking great Grizz, can't wait to see the front pane on!

Thanks Chris, hopefully this weekend I will be able to get the rest of the tank assembled.

looking good Greg....so where do the other two tanks fit into the picture?

Thanks Dougster. The 60 gal cube will be added to the right hand side of the tower stand & the 30 gal might go one the left hand tower or under the 60 gal as a frag tank.

[11purewater]

Man I love this build!Lets get some water happening.

[The Grizz]

Man I love this build!Lets get some water happening.

Water is at least a month away, waiting on a big shipment of plumbing parts.

[11purewater]

And then pucker time!:biggrin:

[11purewater]

In the future if you need weird plumbing parts let me know.and I'll ship them to you,bulkheads large check/flapper valves.I have account at wholesalers,very handy in my biz.

[reefwars]

closed loop??:twised::twised::twised:

[The Grizz]

THATS IT!! Thread is now done and everyone has Denny to thank for it!!

[reefwars]

THATS IT!! Thread is now done and everyone has Denny to thank for it!!


fine then.....open loop??:lol:

[reefwars]

partially closed and semi open maybe? just trying to help geesh :P

[The Grizz]

fine then.....open loop??:lol:

How about no %&$%^$ loop and leave it at the once and for all.

[reefwars]

How about no %&$%^$ loop and leave it at the once and for all.

rough day big guy??:P:P:P

[11purewater]

A whole lot of overflow and a whole lot of returns with a shwack of refugium in between!Dam good plan me thinks.

[The Grizz]

rough day big guy??:P:P:P

Ya you could say that!

[Skimmerking]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww the big grizzy needs a hug denny give him a hug

[BlueTang<3]

All I can say is with all those holes I don't think it's gonna hold much water :wink:

[rhody605]

Question. What do you plan to have in 30&60g tanks. Species specific or different types of fish or coral?

[The Grizz]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww the big grizzy needs a hug denny give him a hug

NO!

All I can say is with all those holes I don't think it's gonna hold much water :wink:

Not at this point anyways.

Question. What do you plan to have in 30&60g tanks. Species specific or different types of fish or coral?

60 gal is for my seahorse's & 30 gal is going to be a zoa grow out tank.

[Delphinus]

Have you ever noticed that a hug is a sort of closed loop of arms? (.. I'm just saying...)

In all seriousness I'm not a huge fan of closed loops either, Grizz. Carry on, and have fun with da build...

[fishoholic]

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[The Grizz]

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Here's one for ya Laurie,

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/D82B5165-03DD-44B3-9077-CF5E4A5FAEC6-16567-000016EE84BD5B81_zps277e4a1c.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/D82B5165-03DD-44B3-9077-CF5E4A5FAEC6-16567-000016EE84BD5B81_zps277e4a1c.jpg.html)

And here you can roughly see where it is on the front pane of glass

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/2B2D067B-ECE3-4675-8E4C-EBBD142B4FC7-16567-000016EE8AAB2B70_zps727a9ec6.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/2B2D067B-ECE3-4675-8E4C-EBBD142B4FC7-16567-000016EE8AAB2B70_zps727a9ec6.jpg.html)

[gregzz4]

'Bout time you started this thread
Good thing I read through it all to understand all the holes in the back before I asked the 'sensitive' question :wink::twised:

About your dedicated circuit;
Are you planning on more than 1 ?
I ran 2 to my DT and keep the sump on one, with the tank lights and vortechs on the other
Plus my RKL powerbars are plugged into both, so there's no problem with everything going down if a breaker trips. God forbid as I have GFCIs everywhere :smile:

[Coralgurl]

It's about time this thread got going!! Only a month for water, geez, can't you go any faster........:mrgreen:

[The Grizz]

'Bout time you started this thread
Good thing I read through it all to understand all the holes in the back before I asked the 'sensitive' question :wink::twised:

About your dedicated circuit;
Are you planning on more than 1 ?
I ran 2 to my DT and keep the sump on one, with the tank lights and vortechs on the other
Plus my RKL powerbars are plugged into both, so there's no problem with everything going down if a breaker trips. God forbid as I have GFCIs everywhere :smile:

Going to do at least 2 maybe 3 - 20amp circuits. Also with running DC pumps & LED's & UPS back ups the amp draw will be much less then what it is now.

[The Grizz]

It's about time this thread got going!! Only a month for water, geez, can't you go any faster........:mrgreen:

Can only go as fast as the shipping company can bring me my major parts & finding free time to work on it.

[fishoholic]

Here's one for ya Laurie,

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/D82B5165-03DD-44B3-9077-CF5E4A5FAEC6-16567-000016EE84BD5B81_zps277e4a1c.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/D82B5165-03DD-44B3-9077-CF5E4A5FAEC6-16567-000016EE84BD5B81_zps277e4a1c.jpg.html)

And here you can roughly see where it is on the front pane of glass

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/2B2D067B-ECE3-4675-8E4C-EBBD142B4FC7-16567-000016EE8AAB2B70_zps727a9ec6.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/2B2D067B-ECE3-4675-8E4C-EBBD142B4FC7-16567-000016EE8AAB2B70_zps727a9ec6.jpg.html)

Is that a scratch? That sucks

[The Grizz]

Yes it's a scratch about 1" long right in the viewing area of my starphire front. Working on removing it now.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

[The Grizz]

Getting there & only an hr. of work so far.......

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[lockrookie]

I foresee scratch repair in your future

[The Grizz]

I foresee scratch repair in your future

Never going to happen cause I never want to have to do that again unless someone really wants to pay me $100 and hr. :twised:

Final results..........

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/197549d2-a951-4bf8-b703-9b3ad14a7cde_zpsf75b4719.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/197549d2-a951-4bf8-b703-9b3ad14a7cde_zpsf75b4719.jpg.html)

[11purewater]

Nice job! did it warp the glass in any way?

[ChefFish]

Looks good Grizz:)

[The Grizz]

Nice job! did it warp the glass in any way?

There is a little bit of a distortion but I can live with it as a new piece was not an option @ $600!!

[The Grizz]

Looks good Grizz:)

Yep just finished

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[11purewater]

Why are thermostats always in the way!:biggrin:

[Delphinus]

What did you use to remove the scratch?

[The Grizz]

Why are thermostats always in the way!:biggrin:

Good thing it's for the in floor heat in this room & it's never turned on either.

What did you use to remove the scratch?

I used a cerium oxide, a polishing mandrel / pad & a cordless drill. Along with a lot of time & patience.

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[The Grizz]

Stopped by my favorite PVC supply store the other day & picked up all my fitting & lengths of pipe for $65, got all my bulkheads already for $80, check valves for $80. Just waiting for my 16 gate valves from the states all for $220 with shipping, hope they get here soon.

Have an interesting idea for my sump, now I just have to do a concept draft.

[Coleus]

awesome, tagging along for a CLOSED LOOP system with an overflow

[The Grizz]

awesome, tagging along for a CLOSED LOOP system with an overflow

Well in that case you better find some where else to find the CL cause THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE HERE!!

Seriously Tai and you want me to do you tank panels again for how much :twised:

[reefwars]

awesome, tagging along for a CLOSED LOOP system with an overflow



oh snap!!!:eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows:

[Coleus]

please excuse my ESL about the Closed loop thingy Greg and continue on with your build thread :-) I thought closed loop is where no water get leak out of the tank which we should all have right?

[The Grizz]

please excuse my ESL about the ______ ___ thingy Greg and continue on with your build thread :-) I thought closed loop is where no water get leak out of the tank which we should all have right?

Well in that case I will let you slide this time Tai :razz:

[The Grizz]

Finished putting on the euro brace tonight as well as the black acrylic overflow teeth ( 150 - 1/4" x 1 1/2" slots cut & filed by hand ). Whole inside of the tank except the euro brace has been totally siliconed, back glass as been tinted & bulkheads are in.

Pics will be up tomorrow.

[BlueTang<3]

Can't wait to see how your making out with the closed .....:lol: setting up big tanks is too much work

[StirCrazy]

Looking good Grizz, I have been workign so much overtime I almost missed this, and I do agree with YOU on the "no closed loops" I have never thought if you have enough return flow that you need a closed loop.

you going to have this beast done by summer?

Steve

[Reef Pilot]

No ****** **** question here. But do you have any pics of your euro brace installed? Is it inside or on top of the tank sides? And whether you have any cut-outs or how you did it around the overflows? Thanks.

[Proteus]

Looking good Greg.

[lastlight]

Talk about jack of all trades this is looking great!

I noticed your stand is all vertical supports without any of the diagonal bits I often see on large builds to prevent the stand's top from shifting sideways. Not required in your opinion?

[Proteus]

Talk about jack of all trades this is looking great!

I noticed your stand is all vertical supports without any of the diagonal bits I often see on large builds to prevent the stand's top from shifting sideways. Not required in your opinion?

Good call.

[The Grizz]

Can't wait to see how your making out with the closed .....:lol: setting up big tanks is too much work

They are alot of work for sure

Looking good Grizz, I have been workign so much overtime I almost missed this, and I do agree with YOU on the "no closed loops" I have never thought if you have enough return flow that you need a closed loop.

you going to have this beast done by summer?

Steve

Thanks Steve, hope to have this done in about a month or sooner, full of SW & running. Wife wants the other half of the livingroom back soon where the 165 & 60 are sitting. Decided to do 4 DC10000 pumps & 2 MP40's should be more then enough flow.

No ****** **** question here. But do you have any pics of your euro brace installed? Is it inside or on top of the tank sides? And whether you have any cut-outs or how you did it around the overflows? Thanks.

I will post some pics later but the euro brace is on top of the tank side, really the only way they should be to add strength.

Looking good Greg.

Thanks Nick
Talk about jack of all trades this is looking great!

I noticed your stand is all vertical supports without any of the diagonal bits I often see on large builds to prevent the stand's top from shifting sideways. Not required in your opinion?

Good call.

Wait until you see what I have planned for enclosing the stand & making my wife happy. No need for diagonal pieces, this stand doesn't shift one bit. I can put my full weight into pushing on the side of the tank & it's like a rock. Also remember there is still 2 tower cabinets ( each end ) & a 60 gal tank and stand to be added yet. Whole stand will be in cased in wood once done

[Proteus]

I guess if it fell over you may need to consider a career change ;)

[The Grizz]

I guess if it fell over you may need to consider a career change ;)

True very true.

[The Grizz]

Here's a few pics of me cleaning the glass............on the inside.

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[The Grizz]

And a few more pics showing some details on the euro brace & overflow. Decided I am going to add some top J trim to the tank to hold my screen covers as soon as I can get some. Now just waiting on my gate valves to arrive to start the plumbing but until then I will start on my sump.

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[fishoholic]

Uh oh bear in a box, bear in a box! Don't let him out I hear he bites off limbs! :lol::razz:

j/k looks great :biggrin:

[BlueTang<3]

Best part of that is to offset the costs you could swim and bath in the tank to save water.

[The Grizz]

Best part of that is to offset the costs you could swim and bath in the tank to save water.

That's true Wes but I would rather swin in my pool & prefer showers :lol:

[Proteus]

That's true Wes but I would rather swin in my pool & prefer showers :lol:

Got cleaner wrasse and shrimp in your pool

[The Grizz]

Got cleaner wrasse and shrimp in your pool

Freshwater pool nothing but kids & grandkids in the pool :razz:

[kien]

I've always wondered.. Is your pool on a closed loop too?

Nice legs BTW!

[daplatapus]

I've always wondered.. Is your pool on a closed loop too?

Nice legs BTW!

LMAO, I was thinking the exact same things!!

[reefwars]

looking good buddy digging the closed loop for sure , i knew you'd come around:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[The Grizz]

I've always wondered.. Is your pool on a closed loop too?

LMAO, I was thinking the exact same things!!

digging the closed loop for sure , i knew you'd come around:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

NO COMMENT!!

[H2o2]

Hang on ,this is looking like TOTM one day.tagging along

[The Grizz]

Hang on ,this is looking like TOTM one day.tagging along

Some day I would hope :pray2:

[lastlight]

When I say things are looking hot its got zero to do with the hairy limbs. Thx for that btw lol.

[The Grizz]

When I say things are looking hot its got zero to do with the hairy limbs. Thx for that btw lol.

Your welcome Brett & you know you liked it :twised:

[kien]

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps19a416a6.jpg

I'm just glad you were considerate enough to close the loops down below. This is a family site after all.

...not that I was looking.

[kien]

...not that I was looking.

Oh who am I kidding, I was totally looking.

[fishytime]

I think I just threw up in my mouf a little:mrgreen:

[Edmonton newbie]

i thought you would want the close loop at the ends for a lap pool greg

[The Grizz]

Ok I am getting a little ennoyed with this & asked for it to stop by no one thinks I'm serious, there is NOT going to be a closed loop on this tank or any other tank I build ever.

So enough is enough, please no more jokes, mention's, innuendos or references to a closed loop.

[Snufflupagus]

Hey Greg looking good!!! Can't wait to see it in person! I have a few birdsnest frags I'll donate to your tank if your interested when ready.

[littlewoodchuck]

Looks great ,You can snorkel in that tank.

[reefwars]

:popcorn:

[fishoholic]

I'm just glad you were considerate enough to close the loops down below. This is a family site after all.

...not that I was looking.

Oh who am I kidding, I was totally looking.

:pound:

[The Grizz]

Hey Greg looking good!!! Can't wait to see it in person! I have a few birdsnest frags I'll donate to your tank if your interested when ready.

Thanks Colin, come for a visit and check it out some time.


Gate valve update: they have been officially shipped today and hope they get here within a week, really iching to get some plumbing started.

[lpsreefer]

whats the exact size of this monster?
unless i cant read that well.
just curious

[The Grizz]

whats the exact size of this monster?
unless i cant read that well.
just curious

96"L x 24"W x 30"H

[mrhasan]

96"L x 24"W x 30"H

Hows the tank getting illuminated? LED? (please say nooooooo!)

[kien]

Hows the tank getting illuminated? LED? (please say nooooooo!)

Why not? LEDs would be perfect for this size of tank as the cost savings in bulb replacements would be huge.

[The Grizz]

Hows the tank getting illuminated? LED? (please say nooooooo!)

Why not is right, SW is expensive enough & I'm not replacing bulbs every 8 month.

It's getting my huge DIY LED that I built last yr.

[mrhasan]

It's getting my huge DIY LED that I built last yr.

Then I believe its going to be wicked :D

[The Grizz]

Basic run down of all the equipment that is going into this system

Lighting: my DIY Led's
Skimmer: Deltec 702 with Lg Davey Jones Locker
Controller: Profilux 3ex
Doser: Profilux 4 pump slave
Return Pumps: 4 - Waveline DC10000
Feed Pumps for chiller, skimmer & reactors: 2 - Waveline DC5000
Reactors: 3 - NextReef MR1
ATO: Tunze Osmolator
Chiller: SeaLine 1/2hp

[fishoholic]

It's getting my huge DIY LED that I built last yr.

I think (as your awesome friend) that some day you should build me DYI LED lights for my 80g and my 230g. I figure it would give you something to enjoy doing in your spare time :mrgreen::razz:

[The Grizz]

I think (as your awesome friend) that some day you should build me DYI LED lights for my 80g and my 230g. I figure it would give you something to enjoy doing in your spare time :mrgreen::razz:


What is this thing you are referring to as spare time?

[Coralgurl]

What is this thing you are referring to as spare time?

You have tons of it, you even posted pics of you lazing around in your tank, claiming to be cleaning it, but I think you were taking a nap!! :lol:

[fishoholic]

What is this thing you are referring to as spare time?

:lol: how did I know you would say that

You have tons of it, you even posted pics of you lazing around in your tank, claiming to be cleaning it, but I think you were taking a nap!! :lol:

:lol: Ah ha the truth comes out

[asylumdown]

I just read through this whole thread, and all I have to say is...

So how exactly are you plumbing the closed loop again?

Seriously though, I have massive, massive scratch repair envy. I might actually consider getting you to come out to my place at $100/hour to fix the scratches on my tank if they weren't all half way down on the inside. You did a stellar job.

[mrhasan]

I just read through this whole thread, and all I have to say is...

So how exactly are you plumbing the closed loop again?

Seriously though, I have massive, massive scratch repair envy. I might actually consider getting you to come out to my place at $100/hour to fix the scratches on my tank if they weren't all half way down on the inside. You did a stellar job.

You are going to get your limbs bitten off ;)

[Nano]

I just read through this whole thread, and all I have to say is...

So how exactly are you plumbing the closed loop again?


This
there is NOT going to be a closed loop on this tank or any other tank I build ever.

So enough is enough, please no more jokes, mention's, innuendos or references to a closed loop.

[The Grizz]

UPS showed up today ( a week before expected to boot ) with a box of goodies :biggrin: tuned to a :sad: when I seen they sent me threaded gate valves instead of slip. On the up side they sent me 2 extra 1 1/2" valves.

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[blacknife]

at least after you add all those threaded slip couplers you can reuse the gates.... -1 on the mis-ship...

[The Grizz]

at least after you add all those threaded slip couplers you can reuse the gates.... -1 on the mis-ship...

Confused.... Reuse? :noidea:

I don't plan on adding any thread - slip couplers as that increases the chances of a leak so I'm simply going to remove the threads & make them slips that is unless they are going to ship me new ones for free.

[fishytime]

holy crap man!....thats more valves than a water treatment plant!

[The Grizz]

holy crap man!....thats more valves than a water treatment plant!

My plan is to have complete control over the flow in every section of the tank.

[lastlight]

how does one remove threads? i hate threaded!

[lockrookie]

how does one remove threads? i hate threaded!

Ask a mod they can remove all your threads.....lol j/k

If it was me I would use some sort of sanding drum or hole saw with sand paper attached to drill out the threads. I was able to just drill it out on 1/2" stuff but have never tried it on the larger scale

[The Grizz]

Ask a mod they can remove all your threads.....lol j/k

If it was me I would use some sort of sanding drum or hole saw with sand paper attached to drill out the threads. I was able to just drill it out on 1/2" stuff but have never tried it on the larger scale

I use my die grinder with a metal bur bit, zips them out in seconds just have to be careful not to go to far or it will be to big to fit the pipe.

[The Grizz]

Just heard back from the supplier of my gate valves,they are sending me new ones out right away & don't want me to send them the threaded ones back :surprise: now that is customer service!!

[mrhasan]

Just heard back from the supplier of my gate valves,they are sending me new ones out right away & don't want me to send them the threaded ones back :surprise: now that is customer service!!

Holy crap :O That's awesome. Now you can have double the control :D You might even be able to control valves with valves :D

[FishyFishy!]

Just heard back from the supplier of my gate valves,they are sending me new ones out right away & don't want me to send them the threaded ones back :surprise: now that is customer service!!


Awesome!!! I like me some threaded gates. Might have to take some of those off your hands!

[mrhasan]

This thread needs a bump! PICTURESSSSSSSSS!

[The Grizz]

This thread needs a bump! PICTURESSSSSSSSS!

This project needs some progress first before pictures. Hope to start the plumbing this week now that I have the proper gate valves I ordered.

[lastlight]

MOAR OMG PLZ.

[The Grizz]

Managed to get some of the overflow plumbing done tonight while I only had the complete use of one shoulder, stressed the right shoulder to much working & now it's EXTREMLY painful. Finish it up tomorrow night & take a few pics.

[The Grizz]

Ok so after a copious amount of pain dullers I managed to get 99.99% of my dual bean animal overflows dry fitted ( not glued yet ) just to make damn sure I have it te way I have in visioned. So enough yak yak yakin, here's some digital images.

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[lockrookie]

Look at the pipes on that thing....... Looks good bud

[gregzz4]

Wow Greg
That sure brings the build into perspective
I would love to have a coast to coast

Keep up the good work, when the body permits :smile:

[Zoaelite]

Nice closed loop system, I'm loving the build so far keeping subscribed!

[The Grizz]

Nice closed loop system, I'm loving the build so far keeping subscribed!

DAMN IT LEVI!!! Seriously dude.

[fishytime]

just wait til the plumbing for the other two tanks gets down there!

[The Grizz]

just wait til the plumbing for the other two tanks gets down there!

60 gal will have its own sump as its temp has to be maintained at 75* for the seahorse's. The 30 gal will only have 2 lines, overflow & return.

But there still is 4 return pumps & 8 return lines to plumb yet.

[Proteus]

You think tuning the drains be a PTA with being tied into common line. Would it be easier to have valves after the T where they tie in on the full siphon. Just a thought





Looks good though

[reefwars]

Lookin good buddy ;)




closed loop

[fishoholic]

60 gal will have its own sump as its temp has to be maintained at 75* for the seahorse's. The 30 gal will only have 2 lines, overflow & return.

But there still is 4 return pumps & 8 return lines to plumb yet.

Barf that's a lot of plumbing, must be a pita to do it all!

BTW If you get the tang I was dumb enough to not buy please post pic's!

[The Grizz]

You think tuning the drains be a PTA with being tied into common line. Would it be easier to have valves after the T where they tie in on the full siphon. Just a thought
Looks good though

I'm probably going to take out the tee's & replace with elbows once I have secured the lines with some custom brackets on the front 2 sets. The back is just the emergency drain that will remain fully open.

Barf that's a lot of plumbing, must be a pita to do it all!

Actually I really enjoy doing this kind of plumbing, making it as clean & sleek as possible. The returns will be a little more of a challenge to get just right.

[fishoholic]

Actually I really enjoy doing this kind of plumbing, making it as clean & sleek as possible. The returns will be a little more of a challenge to get just right.

Huh.....well that good. I hate plumbing!

[WildExpressions]

Hi Greg, it is Steve (not sure what accounts you would remember me from but it is Binarywhisper on Ebay, Steve @ Quinte Reef Services and @ WildExpressions Corals as well). Found the thread and have subscribed.

When a person buys the amount of hardware you did it makes me very curious as to what the heck they are doing. Now that I see it all I can say is that the build looks awesome. I'm a hard core DIY'er myself and I thoroughly enjoyed reading the thread and look forward to following your progress.

[The Grizz]

Hey Steve, first of all welcome to CanReef!! Second, thanks for the items you helped me acquire.

I guess I should gather ALL the pieces of equipment together and take a few pics of that as well, it might take an hr to gather it all up from all my hiding spots.

Hope to get more going on this build soon. Totally swamped with work and dealing with major pain from pinched nerves in my neck so it's a little tough to go all day and then work on the tank at night.

Check out my DIY led build for a little read Steve.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

[Zoaelite]

As Titus stated there is natural painkillers that will work wonders for you Greg :). I tend to enjoy my tank more when I'm relaxed, if you know what I mean.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

[Proteus]

As Titus stated there is natural painkillers that will work wonders for you Greg :). I tend to enjoy my tank more when I'm relaxed, if you know what I mean.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

;)

[Seriak]

Great Start

[The Grizz]

As Titus stated there is natural painkillers that will work wonders for you Greg :). I tend to enjoy my tank more when I'm relaxed, if you know what I mean.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

;)

I need to be clear headed 24/7, I never know when the phone will ring from one of my customers with an emergency so it is never going to happen, you enjoy the herbs it's not for me.

[11purewater]

The life of being on call!I know it well....Stupid phone...Good thing my rates are ridiculous after hours.

[Parker]

Actually I really enjoy doing this kind of plumbing, making it as clean & sleek as possible. The returns will be a little more of a challenge to get just right.

I'm with you, I like the challenge of plumbing.

[Skimmerking]

Heck? Grizz. If u were closer man we would tackle that beast and plumb. It
.,

[The Grizz]

Well managed to get all the plumbing dry fitted down the the gate valves. All that's left is to drill a few holes in my sump for the return pumps & plumb from the pumps to the gate valves.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

[The Grizz]

Plumbing pics!!!!

After dry fitting all the returns I removed the drain lines to better access the returns to glue them up.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps8efd3300.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps8efd3300.jpg.html)

Then proceeded to glue all the returns except the 1 inch gate valves as I want to do a little adjustment to them.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zpsb0a53682.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zpsb0a53682.jpg.html)
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[The Grizz]

Ordered my new skimmer last week from Ray @ Reef Supplies, should get here in the next 2 weeks ( I hope )

Reef Octopus Pro SSS-DC3

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/xctmphwSs0E-01_zps70ac9b9f.png (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/xctmphwSs0E-01_zps70ac9b9f.png.html)

[The Grizz]

All righty then here we go with a small update...........

Lined the bottom & back with the same material used for shower surrounds......

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps13733de8.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps13733de8.jpg.html)

Drilled 3 holes in each end of my sump tank for the pumps and put in the bulkheads & slide it under the tank. There are no baffles yet as Im waiting for my skimmer to arrive on the 15th.............

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zpse4a0d543.jpg (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/GRIZZtheWELDER/media/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zpse4a0d543.jpg.html)

Installed 1st return pump & plumbed it the the second set of return holes from the left, all dry fit ATM. From the pump is a 1 1/2" swing check valve, then a 1" SCWD, a few 45* elbows, a union, gate valve and a few more 45* elbows ........

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Second return pump plumbed to the first set of return holes from the left......

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Gate valves on the inside of the bulkheads so close off the flow if I need to service the pumps........

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Right side pumps plumbed same as the left side just not finished due to the fact I ran out of 45* elbows and so did my supplier so I have to find 11 more to finish the return pump plumbing & still have a little tweaking to do......

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Full view with the drain lines finished with each of the main lines running to the sump separately except for the emergency drains......

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[11purewater]

HOLY MOLY!It's coming to life!nice job!

[gregzz4]

Jeepers DC addiction
I'd sure like to see this monster running in person when it's done, but that won't happen. Any travelling time is spent out of the country

Looking awesome Gregster

[Coleus]

looking great i like the white material that you are using for your tank :-)

[The Grizz]

HOLY MOLY!It's coming to life!nice job!

Thanks Andy, its coming together slowly but its coming.......

Jeepers DC addiction
I'd sure like to see this monster running in person when it's done, but that won't happen. Any travelling time is spent out of the country

Looking awesome Gregster

Thanks Gregzz, I do like me some DC pumps, even my new skimmer is a DC pump.

looking great i like the white material that you are using for your tank :-)

Thanks Tai, I want the inside of the stand to look as good as I hope the outside will....:biggrin:

[mrhasan]

Oh boy the plumbings look sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :mrgreen: Won't you be using that sump with lots of baffles that you designed?

[The Grizz]

Oh boy the plumbings look sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :mrgreen: Won't you be using that sump with lots of baffles that you designed?

As soon as my new skimmer arrives I will be fitting it and installing as many baffles as I can plus 3 - 7" filter socks.

[tang daddy]

Very nice build, are you installing baffles with the sump under the stand or removing the sump to do it?

Also it's not filled yet but in the pics I notices a piece of wood supporti g the sump but it doesn't go all the way. I guess you will be adding a piece to it later....

[JDigital]

Wow Greg! That looks awesome so far! Quite the plumbing masterpiece too! :mrgreen:

[sphelps]

I can't believe how many valves this tank has :lol:

Coming alone nicely though, the plumbing sure looks pretty.

[kien]

holy crap, that looks BAD ASS Gregg!

[The Grizz]

Very nice build, are you installing baffles with the sump under the stand or removing the sump to do it?

Also it's not filled yet but in the pics I notices a piece of wood supporti g the sump but it doesn't go all the way. I guess you will be adding a piece to it later....

That is a piece of 1/2 styrofoam that will be replaced with a full 8' sheet when I pull the sump out to install the baffles.

Wow Greg! That looks awesome so far! Quite the plumbing masterpiece too! :mrgreen:

It has been a challenge, I was going to use some 1" flex hose instead of all the 45* elbows but when I realized I was able to hard pipe it I was much happier with the out come.

I can't believe how many valves this tank has :lol:

Coming alone nicely though, the plumbing sure looks pretty.

The more valves the more control, I can cut the flow off in many areas for servicing the pumps or the check valves. Once everything is glued and straightened it will look just the way I have in-visioned it.

holy crap, that looks BAD ASS Gregg!

Thanks Kien, bad ass is right!!

[The Grizz]

Have been waiting for this day to come for a few weeks, prop to Ray @ Reef Supplies for getting my new piece of the puzzle in a very short amount of time.

So with that said here it is............my new REEF OCTOPUS PRO SSS-DC3 skimmer..............

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[daplatapus]

Oooo, sexy! Curious what your thoughts are on the internal pump...thinking of eventually upgrading mine and trying to decide on features.

[The Grizz]

Oooo, sexy! Curious what your thoughts are on the internal pump...thinking of eventually upgrading mine and trying to decide on features.

The way they got this beast built I think it will kick ass, impeller has a needle wheel & the whole thing comes apart real easy for cleaning. I should have taken pic of it apart but I was excited to see it assembled.

[FishyFishy!]

Puuuuure sexiness!!

[mrhasan]

Those curvessssssssssssssssssssssss :mrgreen:

[The Grizz]

Found some really neat flexible LED strips at Peavey Mart & thought they would be really cool to shed some light on my sump. Oh ya and I got my top trim cut, painted & installed on top of the tank.

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[lastlight]

looking great! sorry if i missed it but what is the notch in the face of the sump for? just for easier access?

[The Grizz]

looking great! sorry if i missed it but what is the notch in the face of the sump for? just for easier access?

It was there already in the sump, don't know what it was for but when I get the baffles in I will decide if I need to fill it in.

[canadianbudz604]

Man your setup is nice and clean

[The Grizz]

Man your setup is nice and clean

Thanks, I'm planning it out very carefully to keep it that way.

[JDigital]

Looks fantastic Grizz! Can't wait to see it full of water.

What are you doing for lighting? sorry if I missed it..

[The Grizz]

Looks fantastic Grizz! Can't wait to see it full of water.

What are you doing for lighting? sorry if I missed it..

Thanks J, going to be using my large diy LED's that are on my 165 after a few tweaks to it are done.

[ensquire]

Those 3 DC pumps look sexy all lined up and ready to go...

[Antrias]

Wish I had mad DIY skills like this! Nice work!

[The Grizz]

Those 3 DC pumps look sexy all lined up and ready to go...

I love the small size of these pumps, makes it easy to plumb 3 in line on both ends of the sump.


Wish I had mad DIY skills like this! Nice work!

Thanks Antrias but some days I think MAD is the key word :loco:

[The Grizz]

Pulled the sump out tonight, ran some white silicone down the bottom back edge where the panels meet ( makes it look so clean )
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also working on getting the baffles into the sump, 6 done 4 to go.
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[Simons]

Wow looks fantastic!! My only question is ... Noise. How loud do you think the pumps skimmer reactors etc could be once this sexy tank is wet??

Either way I would live with it looking at a build like that!

[mrhasan]

Wow looks fantastic!! My only question is ... Noise. How loud do you think the pumps skimmer reactors etc could be once this sexy tank is wet??

Either way I would live with it looking at a build like that!

Noise and DC pump doesn't really co-exists ;)

[The Grizz]

Wow looks fantastic!! My only question is ... Noise. How loud do you think the pumps skimmer reactors etc could be once this sexy tank is wet??

Either way I would live with it looking at a build like that!

With everything in a cabinet that is going to be sound proofed and the fact that DC pump are so silent that I have to put my ear to the one I have running now on my 165 I dont think there is going to be a whole lot of noise at all.

Noise and DC pump doesn't really co-exists ;)

So true.

[sphelps]

Noise and DC pump doesn't really co-exists ;)

Currently run three speedwaves/wavelines and you can definitely hear them, they were pretty quiet at first but now are the noisiest part of the fish room. I run them internal as well so something to be aware of for sure but a minor issue none the less.

[Razor]

Looking great Greg, can't wait to see it up and running.

[The Grizz]

Currently run three speedwaves/wavelines and you can definitely hear them, they were pretty quiet at first but now are the noisiest part of the fish room. I run them internal as well so something to be aware of for sure but a minor issue none the less.

My waveline on the 165 has been running for almost a yr now and is still a quite as the day I put it on line but I also clean it once a month as well.

[The Grizz]

Well after a long day I preceded to get the sump finished after supper, the wife is second guessing herself now in telling me to build it in the house but its to late now. Just have to hook everything back up and finish the little bit of plumbing and its ready for a water test.

Cut out some holes in some acrylic for the filter sock and finished up the baffles

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[11purewater]

We need a "Best Sump Design" contest me thinks!By the way your sump is bigger than my tank...I hate you....Ok just kidding:biggrin:

[Evilweevil]

Frick that thing is looking good!!!

[The Grizz]

We need a "Best Sump Design" contest me thinks!By the way your sump is bigger than my tank...I hate you....Ok just kidding:biggrin:

Not sure if my sump would be dest design worthy but I hope it works good.

Frick that thing is looking good!!!

Thanks Stacey but it would look really good with a custom white cabinet front made by a expert carpenter :wink:

[Evilweevil]

Well maybe we can work something out as soon as I find an expert lol, I am sure we could do something for you though Greg give me a call tomorrow or something .... Hey btw I was close to being your neighbour but someone but the property down the road from ya we were longed up next to having a viewing there lol

[sphelps]

So looks like you have six return pumps total? I remember thinking you had a lot but six? :lol:
I'm a little concerned about the two sides, it appears the baffles progressively get lower starting off pretty high, I don't see anyway the two chambers on each side are going to be able to equalize. Is there a gap under all the baffles or what's the deal? What happens if one side requires more water than the other or if more water just happens to drain more to one side? How does it balance?

[The Grizz]

So looks like you have six return pumps total? I remember thinking you had a lot but six? :lol:
I'm a little concerned about the two sides, it appears the baffles progressively get lower starting off pretty high, I don't see anyway the two chambers on each side are going to be able to equalize. Is there a gap under all the baffles or what's the deal? What happens if one side requires more water than the other or if more water just happens to drain more to one side? How does it balance?

YES Steve there are 6 pumps and like I stated on page 4 only the 4 DC10000 will be running back into the 300 gal, one pump for every 2' of tank. In theory, the water running into the filter socks should evenly to both sides but I will not know until it is full of water and running. I was going to drill threw all the baffles and put in a piece of PVC as an equalizer but changed my mind. Worst case I will have to drill 2 - 3/4" bulkheads into the front of the sump at each end and run a pipe to equalize the volume or come up with some other amazing idea.

[The Grizz]

All right then, since I am off for the day due to pinched nerves in my lower back I might as well update a little bit of the progress.

Got all the plumbing for the 4 return pumps and glued together so all the drains & returns are done. Also picked up some electrical raceway to hide all the electrical lines. Put a 1/2" size raceway on the inside of the front stand leg & over to one end where all my pump power supplies will be installed.

Just need to get a replacement power supply for the Waveline DC10000 running my 165 gal so I can hook up all the return pumps and fill it with fresh water for a leak test and good clean out.

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[sphelps]

YES Steve there are 6 pumps and like I stated on page 4 only the 4 DC10000 will be running back into the 300 gal, one pump for every 2' of tank. In theory, the water running into the filter socks should evenly to both sides but I will not know until it is full of water and running. I was going to drill threw all the baffles and put in a piece of PVC as an equalizer but changed my mind. Worst case I will have to drill 2 - 3/4" bulkheads into the front of the sump at each end and run a pipe to equalize the volume or come up with some other amazing idea.

Yeah you'll need some way of equalizing the flow from the chambers on the two sides.

Those pumps will all have slightly different head pressure and will in no way all flow exactly the same amount and the water will not magically flow from the socks to each side to match exactly what the pumps on each side are using. There is no theory to support it otherwise, just wishful thinking. My advise, fix it now rather than later. Personally would have just left a 1/2" gap under all baffles.

[The Grizz]

Leaving a gap defeats the purpose of the baffles entirely, once it gets a FW test it will be getting drained out into my pool or pond anyways as I still have a TON of work to do.

[The Grizz]

Here's a FSS........

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[noy]

wow, started going through your thread and couldn't stop - this is quite a project and looks amazing!

[The Grizz]

wow, started going through your thread and couldn't stop - this is quite a project and looks amazing!

Thanks Noy, wish it was closer to completion but there is still a whole bunch more to do yet.

[mrhasan]

Thanks Noy, wish it was closer to completion but there is still a whole bunch more to do yet.

Does that mean you are going to use dry rocks?

[The Grizz]

Does that mean you are going to use dry rocks?

Well yes and no, I have about 100 lbs of dry marco rock and around 400 - 500 of dry once live rock plus what is in the 165 gal tank now. I have most of the marco rock in the sump of the 165 gal getting seeded. Once the new tank is running salty I will move the marco rock out of the 165 gal sump to the 300 & add some hand picked dry OLR to the 165 gal sump to seed until I have the new tank aquascaped to my liking. Once I'm satisfied and have all the fish moved in I am going to boil all the rock left and reseed in the 300 to use in the 100 gal FOWLR that is next to build after this is done.

LIST OF TO DO YET

1. fill test run
2. add the 2 end towers
3. move over my diy LED heatsinks
4. run 2 - 20amp dedicated power circuits
5. build electrical control center in the left tower
6. set up my Profilux 3EX controller with Touch screen, 2 PAB 6 power bars,Temp/Ph/Redox/Salinity probes, 4 channel doser, LAN card & EVG control boards for the LED's.
7. finish rebuilding 60 gal cube & hook into system
8. build auto water change system and ato
9. sound proofing & build cabinet incloser

There are a few more things but that what come to the top of my head atm.

[Delphinus]

Wow that sump is a work of art.

That's a lot of dry rock you'll be using. You may already be aware of this but a word to the wise regardless - expect phosphates and lots of it. I think it's getting to be more and more recognized that dry rock emits phosphates like crazy but even two years ago when I got my 280g going it wasn't really a universally recognized thing. 2.5 years in for me and I still have massive PO4 coming out of nowhere if I let the GFO slide. A bit disappointing because it's a much bigger expense than I expected. I'm considering building a lanthanum reactor at some point to experiment and compare results.

[The Grizz]

Wow that sump is a work of art.

That's a lot of dry rock you'll be using. You may already be aware of this but a word to the wise regardless - expect phosphates and lots of it. I think it's getting to be more and more recognized that dry rock emits phosphates like crazy but even two years ago when I got my 280g going it wasn't really a universally recognized thing. 2.5 years in for me and I still have massive PO4 coming out of nowhere if I let the GFO slide. A bit disappointing because it's a much bigger expense than I expected. I'm considering building a lanthanum reactor at some point to experiment and compare results.

Tanks Tony, yes I am expecting some PO4 but have been able to control it in the current display with GFO and Vertex pellets. I have 3 NextReef MR1 reactors that will be plumbed in to one of the DC5000. Don't Know exactly how much rock I will end up using in the display but I want to keep it to a min to allow lots of swim room for the monster tang squad.

[ensquire]

Here's a FSS........

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That's frickin AWESOME
Few shillings in fitting too........

[kien]

Holy hana! Wow.. Tony is right, that sump is art! I nominate it for Sump of the Month!!

[The Grizz]

That's frickin AWESOME
Few shillings in fitting too........

Thanks Mike, actually it wasnt to bad. got all the gate valves for $200 shipped, check valves around $80 for 4 roughly and all the rest of the pvc parts at wholesale from Emco for about $250ish.


Holy hana! Wow.. Tony is right, that sump is art! I nominate it for Sump of the Month!!

Thanks Kiener but I dont think Sump of the month exists..............or does it :twised:

[bonsaidave]

Wow That is an awesome sump. I can't wait to see this set up completed. Great job

[kien]

Thanks Kiener but I dont think Sump of the month exists..............or does it :twised:

Lets start a thread and make it happen! You could be a pioneer!

[The Grizz]

Thanks Kiener but I dont think Sump of the month exists..............or does it :twised:

Lets start a thread and make it happen! You could be a pioneer!

Sump Of 2013 has a nice ring to it or Insane Plumbing of 2013 :lol:

[sphelps]

Sump Of 2013 has a nice ring to it or Insane Plumbing of 2013 :lol:

I think to qualify it needs to have water in it :boink:

[The Grizz]

I think to qualify it needs to have water in it :boink:

Staring the slow FW fill tonight for a leak test & run.

[Phil]

Here's a FSS........

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Holly dc pumps batman !!!!

[typezero]

Here's a FSS........

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OH MAH GAWD!!!!!! If Chuck Norris had a sump... that be it!

[thmh]

Here's a FSS........

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Holy Moly!!! Dayum your plumbing is soooo good Mario should be fighting you instead of bowser!!!

[The Grizz]

Holly dc pumps batman !!!!

I do love me some DC pumps, small foot print & oh so quiet.

OH MAH GAWD!!!!!! If Chuck Norris had a sump... that be it!

Chuck wishes he had a sump like this.

Holy Moly!!! Dayum your plumbing is soooo good Mario should be fighting you instead of bowser!!!

Bowser's got nothin on me :lol:

[The Grizz]

Just have to add 2 short length of vinyl tube to my bean animal OF tomorrow & the water will flow.

[The Grizz]

Some very nervesous moments in this house tonight, first time I have every filled a tank for the first time IN THE HOUSE!!!

1/3 full, just about to the bottom return outlets.

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[mrhasan]

Some very nervesous moments in this house tonight, first time I have every filled a tank for the first time IN THE HOUSE!!!

1/3 full, just about to the bottom return outlets.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/300%20gal%208%20footer/null_zps47ed5f7b.jpg

SO IT LIVES!!!

Well kinda...like 1/3rd...without salt...without sand....without rock...and without livestock. Seems like you are putting effort to fast pace everything recently :mrgreen:

[daplatapus]

Woohoo, wetness! Sweet :D

[The Grizz]

SO IT LIVES!!!

Well kinda...like 1/3rd...without salt...without sand....without rock...and without livestock. Seems like you are putting effort to fast pace everything recently :mrgreen:

I don't waste salt on a leak / run test & not really trying to fast pace the build as there is so much more to this build then just the 300 gal tank.

Woohoo, wetness! Sweet :D

Yes excited nervousness.

1/2 full now.......

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[ChefFish]

looking good buddy, you must be nervous as hell with that much water. Hope it all is good and you dont end up with a mess. Fingers crossed for ya bro!

[Antrias]

Yea it was a cool build to see in person when I picked up that bulkhead. My GF was jealous she didn't get to check it out haha. It's very well designed and built system. Wish I had those building skills! When I upgrade to a 1-300 gal tank I'll be going to a store lol.

[Dearth]

Showed your tank filling to my niece she wanted to know if you could swim in it gotta love the minds of kids

[The Grizz]

Well it's full & flowing at half the pump volume because I'm waiting for a replacement power supply for one of my WaveLine DC1000. ZERO plumbing leaks so I'm very very happy with that but I am going to have to add a balancing line to join the 2 return side together, not a big deal.

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looking good buddy, you must be nervous as hell with that much water. Hope it all is good and you dont end up with a mess. Fingers crossed for ya bro!

All is good & the living room is dry :lol:

Yea it was a cool build to see in person when I picked up that bulkhead. My GF was jealous she didn't get to check it out haha. It's very well designed and built system. Wish I had those building skills! When I upgrade to a 1-300 gal tank I'll be going to a store lol.

Next time you should bring her along.

Showed your tank filling to my niece she wanted to know if you could swim in it gotta love the minds of kids

Just tell your niece I'd rather swin in my pool, it's much warmer but you could have a bath in it :lol:.