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axe_man16
01-31-2013, 03:25 AM
I am wondering why more stores dont have little fact sheets beside the holding tanks informing people about there fish? It seems so simple.

I live near Edmonton and have only seen one store do this (Red Coral). I live way down by Millet and work on the far West end so I dont get over to Red Coral as much as id like, but this just seems like something that can really help people out.

I usually do my research before buying a fish but sometimes i see a name and price on the tank and 10 different types of fish.... I usually can figure out what kind of fish it is but what about newbeez?

Maybe something to look into

fishoholic
01-31-2013, 03:46 AM
That's because Steve is awesome! I remember when they were making those info cards and trust me a lot of time and effort went into them. Unfortunately because of the amount of time and effort it takes to make cards like that I believe most stores would not have the desire or time to make them. However I agree they are a very valuable tool for customers to have access to while shopping.

Leah
01-31-2013, 03:50 AM
Yeah, but they wouldn't sell anything.

axe_man16
01-31-2013, 04:05 AM
I dont think it would be to difficult. Go to Liveaquaria or something like that grab some info, a pic, print...easy. Hell put the price on it with one of those price guns. Just seems silly that stores dont do this.

axe_man16
01-31-2013, 04:07 AM
And if its that time consuming i would be happy to loan my services. :biggrin:

The Grizz
01-31-2013, 04:20 AM
I really like those ID cards at Red Coral & would love to see them at all store for a couple reasons. It might really help new people to SW realize that they need to research there upcoming purchases. It's also helpful for some of us with minds packed full of work, family & life stuff to remember curtain facts about a curtain spicies.

If Steve can do it with a store that has only 3 employees then why can other stores as well. I mean seriously the stores are not always pack with customers from open to close, have one of the employees do it that have a pation for the hobby who knows they might really enjoy doing it.

kien
01-31-2013, 04:23 AM
maybe someone just needs to approach the store owner and suggest it to them or do it for them? :-)

Also, I have never been to Red Coral edmonton but I know that some store tanks in Calgary are tiny and have a few different fish in them so ID cards might clutter the tank in some cases ?

I do agree that it's a great idea though! In fact, I would extend that to corals as well.

Coasting
01-31-2013, 04:35 AM
I usually do my research before buying a fish but sometimes i see a name and price on the tank and 10 different types of fish.... I usually can figure out what kind of fish it is but what about newbeez?

Maybe something to look into

Labeling on the tank would be fantastic, but even then, I sometimes struggle trying to figure out what fish is what, and feel really stupid having to ask an employee, especially when they make you feel like a complete moron and you're ruining their life by just asking them what fish it is. I will often go in with a list of what I can and cant have, so research was done prior, but to me some fish just look so similar and I cant necessarily find it.... and argh!

The Grizz
01-31-2013, 04:41 AM
maybe someone just needs to approach the store owner and suggest it to them or do it for them? :-)

Also, I have never been to Red Coral edmonton but I know that some store tanks in Calgary are tiny and have a few different fish in them so ID cards might clutter the tank in some cases ?

I do agree that it's a great idea though! In fact, I would extend that to corals as well.

Red Corals has them on a index type thing that you flip through takes up minimal space. Like the coral idea to Kien, that would awesome.


Labeling on the tank would be fantastic, but even then, I sometimes struggle trying to figure out what fish is what, and feel really stupid having to ask an employee, especially when they make you feel like a complete moron and you're ruining their life by just asking them what fish it is. I will often go in with a list of what I can and cant have, so research was done prior, but to me some fish just look so similar and I cant necessarily find it.... and argh!

Steve has pics of the fish on each card that make ID very easy.

Coasting
01-31-2013, 04:45 AM
Steve has pics of the fish on each card that make ID very easy.

See that would be nice and easy, somebody needs to tell the folks at J&L to get on this, and stop acting like you're ruining their lives when you ask just because you're a nobody in the hobby *sigh*

kien
01-31-2013, 04:45 AM
Like the coral idea to Kein, that would awesome.

That Kein guy has some great ideas.

The Grizz
01-31-2013, 04:49 AM
That Kein guy has some great ideas.

Damn it, iPad auto correct strikes again :redface: I usually check especially with your name KIEN cause it always switches it.

kien
01-31-2013, 04:55 AM
Damn it, iPad auto correct strikes again :redface: I usually check especially with your name KIEN cause it always switches it.

That's because even your iPhone knows that Kein is cooler than kien.. :-(

Anyway.. I just thought of another idea. Most people lug around cell phones now. How about a card or label with the picture of the fish/coral/invert and a QR next to the picture that we can scan in with our camera phone which would pop open a browser page that has ALL the info that we could possibly ask. This way we could also book mark it, cross reference, etc. BOOYAH! Take that Kein!

BlueWorldAquatic
01-31-2013, 04:58 AM
Actually I had the same idea years ago. Have the files and magnets still.

The reason we decided not to do it is that you can actually get to know the systems the hobbiest have at home. By us asking questions helps us work with the customer. Last thing you want is a customer buya naso tang even though th card says the recommended tank should be 90 gallons minimum. I have had one person that wanted to do that a while ago, and lyndsy refused to sell it to him, even got her called a tang nazi. If we didn't ask questions the customer may have got the tang. I would rather lose the sale than have a fish live in a small tank.

Another reason, there is too much to catalogue, if you are going to do it. You need to do it 100%. I can imangine what my database would be like.

Ken

axe_man16
01-31-2013, 02:15 PM
All fair points Ken. You will always run up against people who are not going to do the best thing for the fish. I do notice that there are fish that are in stock most of the time or at least ordered on a regular basis, and they seem to be put in the same tank or in the same area each time. Could there not be a card for those more common fish?

These are just ideas, and in now way trying to tell you how to conduct your business. I always enjoy going into your store.

sphelps
01-31-2013, 02:29 PM
An alright idea, personally think time would be better spent on customer service, perhaps paying attention to some out of town requests by answering emails :wink:

The LFS in Saskatoon always had books on the counter that you could look at if you wanted. You could also just ask, these days I think most reputable stores have very knowledgeable people working at them.

Pan
01-31-2013, 05:17 PM
I really like those ID cards at Red Coral & would love to see them at all store for a couple reasons. It might really help new people to SW realize that they need to research there upcoming purchases. It's also helpful for some of us with minds packed full of work, family & life stuff to remember curtain facts about a curtain spicies.

If Steve can do it with a store that has only 3 employees then why can other stores as well. I mean seriously the stores are not always pack with customers from open to close, have one of the employees do it that have a pation for the hobby who knows they might really enjoy doing it.

A few of the nicest stores in the states that I visited had color coded sections...(on the floor) Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, Red. Blue was for new to SW, Green was some experience, Yellow was experience and coral, Orange were SPS (some) and Red was things Like Moorish Idols, and hard to care for corals....I liked that. It was all on the wall as you went in - the explanations. And painting the floor is easy. At the front of each Aisle was either a touch-screen or a simple list with what was/is available...numbered by tank. Then there was a laptop station where you could look up requirements etc. RED was not allowed to be purchased by people they had only seen a few times, unless for som reason someone spoke for you. Was quite amazing...I realize that may be hard...but too many times you get a ooooh so beautifull---tank home....oooh so dead :( It's hard as a lot of people worry if they don't take something now will it be there after they research....one should then just research and order another if it works for you...but most don't

KPG007
01-31-2013, 11:51 PM
That's because even your iPhone knows that Kein is cooler than kien.. :-(

Anyway.. I just thought of another idea. Most people lug around cell phones now. How about a card or label with the picture of the fish/coral/invert and a QR next to the picture that we can scan in with our camera phone which would pop open a browser page that has ALL the info that we could possibly ask. This way we could also book mark it, cross reference, etc. BOOYAH! Take that Kein!

Damn, you stole my idea! It's a good one too. For those of us who go to J&L, it would be fairly easy for them as they already have their fish listed individually on their website.

Kein, Kien, who could possably make that mistake? :wink:

kien
01-31-2013, 11:59 PM
Kein, Kien, who could possably make that mistake? :wink:

Man, if I ever meet that Kein guy... He nearly hijacked an entire frag shipment of mine recently!!! :twised:

JDigital
02-01-2013, 09:44 PM
Man, if I ever meet that Kein guy... He nearly hijacked an entire frag shipment of mine recently!!! :twised:

Don't forget about that Keen guy too..