New 300

[The Codfather]

Tell me what you think. Here is a plan of what I have in the works, I've been shut down for a couple of months an have started to plan out some details about the new tank. Dimensions will be 72" long, 42" wide and 24" tall, with a true centre overflow. Give or take about 300 gallons total. I am going with a steel stand construction,with a frag tank and a sump underneath. Probably about 400 gallons total.
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[The Grizz]

Sweet setup need a good strong stand for that bad boy.

[The Codfather]

You bet, I have gone with 2"x2"x3/16"wall, just like we talk about about a month ago. It will be plenty strong, benefit of having a welding shop at your disposal is you don't have to mess around.

[lastlight]

Your goal is to have a walk-around? The idea is very cool but something I'd personally only do with a 6x6 footprint or bigger. You're building a tank with such an awesomely wide footprint but then you more than chop it in half with the overflow there. It's a real commitment. I'm sure you can hide it with rock but then that encroaches on your space even more.

That might be just me though. I'm sure you'll make it happen right.

[The Codfather]

I was going to do a room divider at first, but my wife was kind enough to let me do a peninsula style. Here's a couple of pics of the demo.
The wall before I got started(sorry Joe, you'll have another wall soon)
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This is what I was going to put the tank.
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And now with the rest removed.
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[The Grizz]

You bet, I have gone with 2"x2"x3/16"wall, just like we talk about about a month ago. It will be plenty strong, benefit of having a welding shop at your disposal is you don't have to mess around.

Nice work, that is what I would have done for that size as well. I should go into consulting for builds and charge a minimal fee to feed my reef addiction:lol:

[outacontrol]

looks really cool

I can't wait to see it

[The Codfather]

Your goal is to have a walk-around? The idea is very cool but something I'd personally only do with a 6x6 footprint or bigger. You're building a tank with such an awesomely wide footprint but then you more than chop it in half with the overflow there. It's a real commitment. I'm sure you can hide it with rock but then that encroaches on your space even more.

That might be just me though. I'm sure you'll make it happen right.

Brett,
I would have loved to go bigger, but I think I have almost overstepped my boundaries as it is. The centre overflow will be 18"x6" and I have something in mind to blend it in.

[The Codfather]

Nice work, that is what I would have done for that size as well. I should go into consulting for builds and charge a minimal fee to feed my reef addiction:lol:

Next time your in town, let me know, I pay in beer.

[The Codfather]

looks really cool

I can't wait to see it

Thanks man, this one's going to be the last so I have a few things up my sleeve for this on.

[BlueTang<3]

Bob you see that bed in the room is going to be your new one.

[The Grizz]

Next time your in town, let me know, I pay in beer.

Sounds tasty:biggrin:

I have a lady in Calgary that want to trade me her 7.5' x 2.5' x 2.5' tank for my 65 gal hex. So I would have to build a stand similar.

[The Codfather]

So a few beer down and a bit of welding and here we sit now.
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[The Codfather]

Bob you see that bed in the room is going to be your new one.

Hey, Sylvia is cool with all this, I actually think she might even like the idea so far. Here's hoping anyway.

[The Codfather]

Sounds tasty:biggrin:

I have a lady in Calgary that want to trade me her 7.5' x 2.5' x 2.5' tank for my 65 gal hex. So I would have to build a stand similar.

This one worked out well,brought home the lazer level and shot everything in before welding it up. Worked sweet, everything is perfectly level.

[bauder1986]

Very impressive thus far! You managed to make everything look organized compared to what the rest of us go through on tank builds that involve the demo of a section of the house!

[fishoholic]

Wow! I vaguely remember talking about you setting up a large tank in your basement and I remember thinking/partly discussing where'd you put it.....and I remember thinking first you just have to knock out that wall.....and then you'd have lots of room, however I don't remember if I said that out load of not, so WOW you actually did that! :surprise: Cool!

I also love that the tank is going to be 42" wide, I really like the look of wide tanks. The stand looks great :biggrin:

[The Codfather]

Very impressive thus far! You managed to make everything look organized compared to what the rest of us go through on tank builds that involve the demo of a section of the house!

Ya, I've had a few weeks to plan this one out. I'm not going to rush this one, going to take my time and finish everything right the first time around.

[The Grizz]

SWEET!!!! TIG welding in the house. My wife would have to be gone for the day for me to get away with that.

[The Codfather]

Wow! I vaguely remember talking about you setting up a large tank in your basement and I remember thinking/partly discussing where'd you put it.....and I remember thinking first you just have to knock out that wall.....and then you'd have lots of room, however I don't remember if I said that out load of not, so WOW you actually did that! :surprise: Cool!

I also love that the tank is going to be 42" wide, I really like the look of wide tanks.

Happy with the look so far, I'm glad I can do a peninsula, I think it will really look sweet after it's all set up.

[lastlight]

omg that stand is SO kickass!

I didn't know you can weld right in your freaking house haha. I love the elevated stand in there. Wow I just love that stand!

[The Grizz]

Very impressive thus far! You managed to make everything look organized compared to what the rest of us go through on tank builds that involve the demo of a section of the house!

What do you mean by that Josh my was pretty organized as well,just the shop looked like a bomb went off in the tool room. :lol:

[The Codfather]

SWEET!!!! TIG welding in the house. My wife would have to be gone for the day for me to get away with that.

Ya, she took the kids to the mall and I brought home a portable snorkel from work, once again, nice to have these to borrow from work. When we were done you would have never noticed we were burning down stairs. And ya, TIG is so the way to go, nice and neat.

[bauder1986]

What do you mean by that Josh my was pretty organized as well,just the shop looked like a bomb went off in the tool room. :lol:

haha yah but i think that tool room went through a few tanks in that 2 week period with terry you and i!

[The Codfather]

omg that stand is SO kickass!

I didn't know you can weld right in your freaking house haha. I love the elevated stand in there. Wow I just love that stand!

Ya, suitcase welder, pretty sweet little boxes. Nice part is it plugs into a 110v outlet.
I think the stand kicks ass too, it's solid as a rock and dead level. Might be a bit overkill, but what the hell, doesn't cost me any extra to beef it up a little. God I love steel.

[The Codfather]

What do you mean by that Josh my was pretty organized as well,just the shop looked like a bomb went off in the tool room. :lol:

At least you have a shop at your place Greg. I can only wish.

[The Grizz]

At least you have a shop at your place Greg. I can only wish.

That is deffinately a plus, I can build a whole setup in the shop then move it in piece by piece.

Awesome work dude I will be watching this one for sure. Isn't it funny how when you are building everything yourself you tend to go overkill. I know i did with my stand as well.

[reefwars]

bob!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! sweet is all i can say lol love the design and love the dimensions.... my overflow box is the same 18x6 and i wouldnt of changed it if i had my time back it works out great:) are you going herbie??? closed loop??

funny how you take a nap and when you wake up a whole new tank journal is in the making lol cant wait to see this thing going and if you need any help you know where i am:):)


again.....SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fishytime]

So you gone and done it huh Bobbybye????? F-in sweet....I got the impression that this tank was going to be a ways away from how you were talkin when last we talked.....good to see that not only is the ball rollin but its knockin down some pins too:biggrin:.....

[paddyob]

Tank is looking good for a start.




I also noticed you pay in beer. Call me. I work for beer. Ha ha!

But seriously, if you need any help Bob, let me know.

[Skimmerking]

Wow man that is looking great. I remember bringing over the Skimmer with Laurie, you had the tank in-wall and with all Wes's stuff and u were talking about doing something like that ... good going man,.

[The Codfather]

Thanks for the offer guys. It just so happens my glass is in town and I have to pack it in down stairs, so I might be calling in a few favours in the next couple of days.
That being said I have to go and finish the stand off, the welding is all done just have to prime and paint up all the welds and some of the surrounding area. Cut the shelves up so have to seal up those as well before the sump and frag tanks are made up.
Well what you saw so far is about 4 days work so I hope you don't expect this amount of pics daily.

[Skimmerking]

We expect more Pic's Cod what is the matter with ya have a party and bring the glass in and



Getter Done!!!!!!!!!!!

[steve fedyk]

great looking tank biuld.
keep it coming cod.

[bignose]

Wow coming along nice Bob. I like how you welded in the house my wife would kill me! :lol: I also work for beer and I still have to return the favor:wink:

[fishytime]

kinda reminds me of "Khaosinc's" thread over on RC......destruction of walls and in house welding......*does Tim Allen like grunts*

[The Codfather]

kinda reminds me of "Khaosinc's" thread over on RC......destruction of walls and in house welding......*does Tim Allen like grunts*

Destruction is one of the things I do best Doug. The problem is getting everything back together again.

[Delphinus]

Man, such a clean wall removal. I'd have drywall dust clear into the next country and there is nary a speck of it anywhere...

Neat idea with the centre overflow, you don't see too many 4 sided viewing tanks too often ... which is too bad I think it's kinda neat. Good on ya' man.

[The Codfather]

Man, such a clean wall removal. I'd have drywall dust clear into the next country and there is nary a speck of it anywhere...

Neat idea with the centre overflow, you don't see too many 4 sided viewing tanks too often ... which is too bad I think it's kinda neat. Good on ya' man.

Tony, I had to keep it clean for two reasons:
1-If I leave a huge mess, my wife would kill me. I'm serious.
2-Two very active little girls in the house. Self explanatory.
As for the centre overflow, I am really going to try to generate a good sized wave in this thing, and a centre overflow I believe is the only way I am going to accomplish it. I'm quite happy with everything so far, a long way to go though.

[The Grizz]

I too make a huge mess with demo but my wife has learned to just deal with it if she want something done fast:lol: and all my kids are grown up, it's just the grand kids and the occasional guest who have little ones so that is not to much to deal with.

I look forward to more updates and pics too.

[lastlight]

Imagine how easy it would be to force a gyre in either direction with the overflow there too. You speak of the glass arriving...are you building the tank yourself?

[Edmonton newbie]

great start there bob lookin forward to watching the progress

[Wayne]

Holy smokes just found this build :biggrin: Nice progress!

[reefwars]

dont forget mr bobby i still owe ya a favor or ten lol when that glass is ready call me and ill be there in a jiffy.......im also good for the fixing side of things lol


so what are we expecting in the way of a finished tank...sps????

[The Codfather]

Imagine how easy it would be to force a gyre in either direction with the overflow there too. You speak of the glass arriving...are you building the tank yourself?

Ya, kind of. Because of the size I had to build on site, so it will be built here, although I think that I will just be a helper in this case, I'll leave the build for someone with a little more experience.

[The Codfather]

dont forget mr bobby i still owe ya a favor or ten lol when that glass is ready call me and ill be there in a jiffy.......im also good for the fixing side of things lol


so what are we expecting in the way of a finished tank...sps????

It will be a mixed tank, lps and sps. I think I'll have enough room to accommodate both.

[BlueTang<3]

Sticks only cough cough

[Jason McK]

Looking good. Love the steel stand.
Looking forward to seeing more

[The Codfather]

Sticks only cough cough

Don't think I haven't thought about it.

[The Codfather]

top and shelving are in and painted, all the welds where primed and painted last night as well.
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[Bblinks]

TAGGING ALONG. NICE BUILD.:idea:

[fishytime]

Mdf?

[The Codfather]

Mdf?

Yep, 3/4" sealed with a oil base. You know something I don't Doug??

[lastlight]

Based on what I've seen so far I'm suprised you guys didn't cast a steel plate right inside the house for the stand's top :lol:

[Skimmerking]

MDf is super strong once sealed its rock solid.

[The Codfather]

Based on what I've seen so far I'm suprised you guys didn't cast a steel plate right inside the house for the stand's top :lol:

Don't think I wasn't thinking that Brett.

[The Codfather]

Guess what I'm looking at right now???
19mm starfire glass! Have all the sides right now, tomorrow I will pick up my bottom and my one piece euro brace for the top.

[bignose]

One piece euro bracing, this is going to be one awesome tank.

[pyke]

300G, center overflow, one Piece euro Brace,

Your building my dream tank in your House, Very Nice!

[Skimmerking]

COD I don't believe you Show us a picture of the glass :mrgreen:

[The Codfather]

COD I don't believe you Show us a picture of the glass :mrgreen:

I knew someone would say it.
Well I knew this would be heavy, but never thought I wouldn't be able to lift it onto the stand by myself, got it into the basement and onto the spare bed. It can stay there for now. Tomorrow, I get the rest of the glass.
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[lastlight]

Wow I sure hope we're not looking at the one-piece eurobrace or someone missed the boat :lol: For one thing it's in two pieces and access will be really hindered with the bracing being a few feet wide. :razz:

[Skimmerking]

Show off:biggrin:

[The Codfather]

Wow I sure hope we're not looking at the one-piece eurobrace or someone missed the boat :lol: For one thing it's in two pieces and access will be really hindered with the bracing being a few feet wide. :razz:

I hope it doesn't come like that. I should be able to pick it up tomorrow, I'm hoping it looks as good as I think it will. The last couple of new tanks builds on canreef that had a one piece looked amazing.

[The Codfather]

Show off:biggrin:

you ask. you get.

[Skimmerking]

one piece euro bracing man that must of costed a bit of $$$$ let alone the tank.

[The Codfather]

one piece euro bracing man that must of costed a bit of $$$$ let alone the tank.

Actually Mike, I just shopped around and found some good deals, being in the trades helps a lot too. One of the big reasons I went a little bigger and better is that my cost is quite a bit lower than what most people would get.
As for the euro bracing, it's not that expensive. Just had to do a bit of research, and talk to a couple of different companies.

[muck]

Well Bob... that didn't last long or was this the plan all along when you sold off your old tank. :wink:

oh and TIG welding in the house...LEGEN...wait for it... DARY :twised:

[StirCrazy]

I brought home a portable snorkel from work, once again, nice to have these to borrow from work. When we were done you would have never noticed we were burning down stairs. And ya, TIG is so the way to go, nice and neat.

I was originaly holding out for a tig setup when I bought my new welder last year (My stick got ripped off out of my storage locker when I was selling my house) but I settled for a big Mig. wait till I get that going in the basment.. won't look at clean as your tiggin does haha.

but I do have the shop to build most of the stuff in then just tack it in place in the house. but I do have lots of welding blankets.

Steve

[fishytime]

Yep, 3/4" sealed with a oil base. You know something I don't Doug??

MDF reacts very poorly to a high moister environment...........it needs to be sealed with a special sealer, then primed, then painted or it will just swell and blow apart.....personally I would use plywood(coming from a carpenter who has made his fair share of tank stands)

[Mrfish55]

MDF reacts very poorly to a high moister environment...........it needs to be sealed with a special sealer, then primed, then painted or it will just swell and blow apart.....personally I would use plywood(coming from a carpenter who has made his fair share of tank stands)

+1 Great build, but I would lose the MDF, if you can find duraply (exterior grade and smooth surface like MDF, used by sign makers for exterior signs and billboards) that would be the way to go. One small flaw in your finish or water penetration on the edge will cause swelling and create a pressure point. Other than that tagging along, looks like it will be nice, can't wait to see the one piece euro.

[spoot]

I agree with not using MDF either. Tends to bloat when wet and will not shrink back to the original dimensions after it dries. It will also lose its structural integrity.

Looking really good so far!

[The Codfather]

Thanks guys, I have already bought 3/4" plywood to replace it, and have found another gallon of marine paint. I'll change this out. I have phoned and got my glass moved to Tuesday so I will not be in a rush to get the new top on.

Geez Doug, next time say something sooner!

[Skimmerking]

Geez Doug, next time say something sooner!


Ya Doug way to go you probably scared him now no soup for you

[fishytime]

Geez Doug, next time say something sooner!

aw man.....I work 7 day a week....I dont have time to read EVERYTHING.....at least you didnt already have the tank sitting on it:mrgreen:

[The Codfather]

aw man.....I work 7 day a week....I dont have time to read EVERYTHING.....at least you didnt already have the tank sitting on it:mrgreen:

Ya, It was a close call, but I just phoned it in and told them to postpone my glass until Tuesday. Thanks, may have saved me a head ache sometime down the road.

[The Codfather]

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[Skimmerking]

Wow that is it that is all you have to show us from all that time ., WHO is the heck do you think you are ............


"BIG BEATHE OF AIR!!!!!!!!!!
but i like the glass thou.:razz:

[The Codfather]

Wow that is it that is all you have to show us from all that time ., WHO is the heck do you think you are ............


"BIG BEATHE OF AIR!!!!!!!!!!
but i like the glass thou.:razz:

Ya, I know. But between the kids, job and night classes, I been a little short of time. Plus I promised myself I wouldn't rush things, and it's about to pay off.

[fishytime]

thats a nice piece of....um .....glass, there Bobbybye:biggrin:......it looks defective to me though, its got a bunch of holes in it:mrgreen:

[The Grizz]

That's a sweet piece of glASS dude :biggrin:

[The Codfather]

Thanks guys, it is indeed a nice peice. You would not beleive what I had to do to get it here.The build is scheduled for the 26th of this month. Can't wait.

[Delphinus]

Nice!!! Cool stuff.

[fishoholic]

Comming along nicely, can't wait to see it all put together :biggrin:

[The Codfather]

Didn't get to cowtown this weekend so got a bit done on the tank. Here it is being built and on the tank.
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[abcha0s]

That looks awesome!!

Is it water tight? - What would happen in a power failure?

[Skimmerking]

Looks sexy i like it alot

[The Codfather]

That looks awesome!!

Is it water tight? - What would happen in a power failure?

There's an actual glass overflow on the inside. I just put the cover over top.

[reefwars]

thats pretty cool bob i gotta say really nice job any insight on to how you made it?? i would love to make one in the future:) cheers:)

[pyke]

I am loving the overflows

[The Codfather]

I am loving the overflows

Thanks, I wanted a true central overflow but needed a way to cover it up nicely, got a lot of help from RC on this one. But it turned out quite nicely I think. By the time I get some water in there and the coraline gets it, I think it will look wicked. Biggest problem was getting the rock to look good with out looking too staged.

[The Codfather]

thats pretty cool bob i gotta say really nice job any insight on to how you made it?? i would love to make one in the future:) cheers:)

Denny, it was easy,you can read a lot about this in the DIY section on RC. I asked a lot of questions and received a lot of idea's. If you have any questions send me a pm, or give me a shout.

[outacontrol]

that looks really cool, can't wait to see more

[es355lucille]

That is a very cool overflow encasement. Did it turn out to be very heavy? I never got around to it, but I will go and read your thread on building this monument. I see you have made places to stick some corals on it as well....thats really nice!!

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[The Codfather]

DP

[The Codfather]

That is a very cool overflow encasement. Did it turn out to be very heavy? I never got around to it, but I will go and read your thread on building this monument. I see you have made places to stick some corals on it as well....thats really nice!!

It weighs about 60 lbs, not too bad, worked out pretty good. Lots of builds and info on RC on how to do it. I was going to epoxy and sand it, but I think it will be fine without it. Plus Im having a hard time finding an epoxy that is safe to use, I have called and emailed several companies trying to find a submersible, food grade epoxy with little success. I think in the long run after I have a few corals on it and the coraline algae gets to it, you'll never know the difference anyway.

[fishoholic]

Very cool Bob, I really like how natural it looks. Should make a great cover for the overflow.

[The Codfather]

Well my pumps arrived today, found a Canadian supplier for these, took a bit of looking, but well worth it. These pumps have a 5 year warranty and the customer service I received so far was very good. So far quite impressed. Going to fire one up in a tub to see the noise factor, but was told they are very very quiet. Each pump will put out about 3000 gph at 6' of head so plenty to go round.

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[The Codfather]

A couple of pics.
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Well had to open it up and take a look.
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Screened intake and internal anti lime bypass. http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_1741.jpg
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Looks promising, I guess time will tell.

[BlueTang<3]

Are the shafts and the screws titanium? I just pulled the plastic threads out of on of the skimmer bolts last night, no big deal but i see that those have some sort of inserts.

[Dez]

Looks promising Bob. Looking forward to the longterm progress of this build.

[The Codfather]

Are the shafts and the screws titanium? I just pulled the plastic threads out of on of the skimmer bolts last night, no big deal but i see that those have some sort of inserts.

Shafts look to be a ceramic, but the bolts do screw into metal sleeved inside the body of the pump. Seem like a solid build.

[The Codfather]

Looks promising Bob. Looking forward to the longterm progress of this build.

Thanks Dez, I will see if I can get over there for some frags in the next 6 months. Build got off to a good start, but between the girls and work, this build has been at a standstill for a while. Hope to get a few things done in the next couple of weeks.
Your tank looks wicked by the way, going to have to stop by one of these nights and have a good look again, have been there for a while. Hows the family? Good I hope.

[lastlight]

What's the wattage? I was planning to use a stock laguna max-flo for some savings and I'm curious...

[The Codfather]

What's the wattage? I was planning to use a stock laguna max-flo for some savings and I'm curious...

When I talked to the rep. I think he told me between 175-190 watts, I will have to have a look in the specs to confirm. I looked at the maxflo 4200 as well, specs have it at a little lower wattage, but I liked the construction of the sicce body and impellers better.
I have two Brett, your welcome to take one for a test on your tank if you want, I can bring it in to cowtown next time Im in if you want.

[The Codfather]

So heres a couple of pics, probably not the best, but you get the idea. Have a lot to do on it yet, probably start the woodwork in the next couple of weeks, as well as the rock work.
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[The Codfather]

Going to try the tunze waveboxes out, I have four of them but decided to take and mount 2 on the far end on separate brackets(thanks Tony). I modified the brackets a bit to accommodate the cords going up through the bulkheads. I think it gives it a cleaner look.
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[bignose]

Bob what is the glass bracing for on the bottom outer edge of the tank? Curious never seen this before.

[fishoholic]

Looks great so far :biggrin:

[lastlight]

How did I miss when you first showed that overflow cover?! That looks incredible and you'll have a decent clearance still for coral growth too. Very nice!

[fishytime]

nice job on the tunzes Bobby.....they do look pretty slick.....

[hound96]

Bob what is the glass bracing for on the bottom outer edge of the tank? Curious never seen this before.
far as i understand for big tanks they need it for extra stability

[cale262]

Saying it looks Fantastic would be an understatement :thumb:

[es355lucille]

Bob, where did you get the brackets from? This is a very cool design. Clean, and I like how the electrical cord goes neatly into the bulkhead. Did you design these? or are they a tunze item? never seen them before.

Do you think you could pipe these down further into the tank with plastic piping (2-6" long) and still have the stability? Just looking for ideas myself....I really like the bracketing.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_1753.jpg

[JOEL]

Tank looks great Bob it's sure coming along

[Delphinus]

Hi Brad, I'll field this for Bob (he bought those off me anyhow :lol:). Their actual intended purpose is mounting Tunzes to a Wavysea or Vertex Mocean swirler but I think they're a great way to get the same degrees of freedom out of the old style Tunzes that you'd get with the new ones .. so long as one's tank was prepped for it like what Bob did, before filling. By the time the idea occured to me it was far too late but I'm glad to see someone else had the same idea and was able to connect it to reality. :)

http://www.aquacave.com/vertex-mocean-tunze-br-stream-connector-1164.html



Bob, where did you get the brackets from? This is a very cool design. Clean, and I like how the electrical cord goes neatly into the bulkhead. Did you design these? or are they a tunze item? never seen them before.

Do you think you could pipe these down further into the tank with plastic piping (2-6" long) and still have the stability? Just looking for ideas myself....I really like the bracketing.

[reefermadness]

Awesome build... did you put the tank together yourself Bob?

[The Codfather]

Bob, where did you get the brackets from? This is a very cool design. Clean, and I like how the electrical cord goes neatly into the bulkhead. Did you design these? or are they a tunze item? never seen them before.

Do you think you could pipe these down further into the tank with plastic piping (2-6" long) and still have the stability? Just looking for ideas myself....I really like the bracketing.

Ya, what Tony said. Sorry for the late reply, but I think Tony covered the base.

[The Codfather]

Awesome build... did you put the tank together yourself Bob?

I think it was more of me watching it get built, I was in the way more than I helped.

[Skimmerking]

:mrgreen:

[The Codfather]

Well, here goes nothing.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_1981.jpg

Heres the water test, it's just about full now, everything looks good.

[The Grizz]

I get nervous filling a tank for the first time in the shop, can't imagine doing it in the house, looking good Bob.

[AquaticFinatic]

Okay the picture was taken in the day time now it's getting dark is it full!

[fishytime]

Thats wicked Bob!.......how close do ya figure you are to calling it ALIVE?????

[BlueTang<3]

So i take it i could bring the skimmer back anytime?

[The Codfather]

Okay the picture was taken in the day time now it's getting dark is it full!

Yep, all 315 gallons.

[The Codfather]

Thats wicked Bob!.......how close do ya figure you are to calling it ALIVE?????

Well Doug, I think it's going to be a while yet. Now that is tested, I'm going to start the woodwork around it, I don't even have a sump yet. So it's going to be a while. Between the extra shifts at work and the kids, haven't had much time to work on this, but...........summer is coming and we know what that means! Two months off and my parents want the kids for at least a couple weeks. So I'm hoping by the end of August to be operational. I wish it could speed things up but I might as well be realistic.

[The Codfather]

So i take it i could bring the skimmer back anytime?

No rush, won't have salty water for a bit yet. But I should swing by for a visit anyway, haven't seen the tank in a couple of months.

[The Codfather]

I get nervous filling a tank for the first time in the shop, can't imagine doing it in the house, looking good Bob.

Unfortunately with this one I couldn't test it outside. Oh well, whats 300 gallons if it let go! No worries on this one, Im confident on the build, I've seen quite a few tanks and this one is solid.

[fishytime]

I wouldnt second guess the quality of the tank either:wink:.....

[fishoholic]

Yay water :biggrin: Getting closer :mrgreen:

[Parker]

Bout due for an update, no?

[Boomboy]

well if you need drool for your tank, i got plenty over here. MY GOODNESS this is awesome. love the center overflow. good job on it so far.

[The Codfather]

Well, probably not the update you guys want, but an update. In late June with all the rain, I had a sump pump failure(The house sump, not the tank sump). Needless to say with all the rain we have had, it filled the basement pretty quick and by the time I got home from work that night, the basement was pretty sloppy.
Of all the things that could happen, a simple pill switch failure can do a whole lot of damage. So with that being said, the clean up and re-build of the basement has begun, a contractor should be here in the morning so start, thank god for insurance.
I actually laughed a little to my self afterwards, I thought for sure, if there was ever a flood in the basement it would be because of a fish tank. The answer to that is "no". Although I did check the pump in the spring, and I just installed that sump pump when we moved in (3 years ago) I guess if I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all.
Now that all the badness is out of the way, lets talk about what has happened.
1- pulled 5 separate circuits in for power, I figure that has to be plenty.
2- pulled a cat5e from the computer into the sump area. That way I can hard wire my controller into my computer
3- ran a 3" fresh air line into top of canopy(for cooling) and a 2" down into sump area(again, cooling and skimmer intake)
4- wired in and installed a 50 cfm fan and de-humidistat into canopy area
5- almost completed the skin of the sump area, (I will finish it all in maple I think, but have a bit of time yet)
6- repaired the ceiling(just have to re-stiple the ceiling
7- removed two of the smaller walls that were left from the bedroom. Nice part about this is now I have a good 4' walk space around all three sides of the tank. It really opened up the basement.
All in all, I haven't had a ton of time, as the summer I have a very demanding job to fill. I become a full time dad to my two girls and they are quite demanding. Now that I have bored most of you to death, you might as well see some of the pictures.

[The Codfather]

Heres a nice little plate I picked up a while ago.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2005.jpg
A pic from the right side, you can see how they had to cut 30" up from the floor to make sure the basement would dry
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2007.jpg
A pic from the left side
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2006.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2003.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2001.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_1999.jpg

[BlueTang<3]

Looking good, at least you had the aluminium studs, imagine wood ones getting wet and rotting would have made for a lot more of a mess.

[BlueTang<3]

I never noticed the carpet gone either, was it flood damage or you had to pawn it off to feed the KID lol. Now you should just tile the floor so next time when u flood the floor its easier to dry :lol:

[The Codfather]

Looking good, at least you had the aluminium studs, imagine wood ones getting wet and rotting would have made for a lot more of a mess.

They say that with the aluminum track it actually causes more damage, because of the ability for the water to travel faster once it gets inside the track. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it does make some sense.

[The Codfather]

I never noticed the carpet gone either, was it flood damage or you had to pawn it off to feed the KID lol. Now you should just tile the floor so next time when u flood the floor its easier to dry :lol:

Next time??? Trust me, there won't be a next time. I've added a second sump pump, and have saw cut the floor with an emergency overflow to my floor drain, incase of power failure. This will not happen again, trust me. Once is bad enough.

[The Codfather]

Bout due for an update, no?

Sorry Robb, kind of a disappointing update. I still have to stop by some time a check out your tank, might have to drag my kids along though.

[BlueTang<3]

I meant when u do what we all regularly do start filling the sump and walk away . I know what u mean how much it sucks we experience it last spring but we had to move the tank amidst the flood so it really sucked. Its just didnt cause as much damage none i can see other than all out door frames took on water and don't close anymore :redface:

[The Codfather]

I meant when u do what we all regularly do start filling the sump and walk away . I know what u mean how much it sucks we experience it last spring but we had to move the tank amidst the flood so it really sucked. Its just didnt cause as much damage none i can see other than all out door frames took on water and don't close anymore :redface:

You meant tank floods? Oh ya, hell there will be lots of those. Those keep life interesting, and that special bond between husband and wife strong.

[BlueTang<3]

Husband and wife ? :wink::wink:

So have you decided what equipment yet,

power heads and controller are you going with pellets or zeo, or just going fish only for now

[The Codfather]

[QUOTE=BlueTang<3;624605]Husband and wife ? :wink::wink:


Wes, after 17 years and a couple of kids, I don't need a piece of paper to tell me she's my wife. I told her we could get married in Vegas last time we were there, but it had to be by Elvis. She didn't go for it.

[BlueTang<3]

Wes, after 17 years and a couple of kids, I don't need a piece of paper to tell me she's my wife. I told her we could get married in Vegas last time we were there, but it had to be by Elvis. She didn't go for it.



Lol I dont blame her, any ways ill stop cluttering in boredom, Ill need to swing by some day and bring the swabbie and skimmer home. I probably have a bunch more of your goodies but who knows. I might try to find a par meter and for shits and giggles we should throw some lights over the tank once it get wet again and see what is going to perform best. Thinking pacific sun vs vertex

[The Codfather]

So have you decided what equipment yet,

power heads and controller are you going with pellets or zeo, or just going fish only for now

I think I am going to jump on the LED bandwagon, have a few ideas in mind, but nothing solid. As for controllers, I was thinking of a profilux still, as well as a dosing unit. I still have to get ahold of Dave or Brad about my sump, keep promising to get them the paper work on it, but it seems like I never have time(sorry guys). You know where I can get a bubble king skimmer?? Seemed to have misplaced mine.

[The Codfather]

we should throw some lights over the tank once it get wet again and see what is going to perform best. Thinking pacific sun vs vertex

My thoughts exactly. I think it's going to come down to one of these anyway.

[Dez]

Wow Bob, I just saw the bad luck. Sorry to hear man. At least you'll have contractors fixing the house instead of you having to do it yourself. Still looking forward to the progression of this aquarium!

[Parker]

Sorry Robb, kind of a disappointing update. I still have to stop by some time a check out your tank, might have to drag my kids along though.


Sorry to hear about your bad luck, it looks like you're well on the way to recovery though..

Feel free to stop in anytime and kids are always welcome!

[The Codfather]

Well managed to get some what back on track, progress has been slow. The nice thing is the basement is near complete, the rug goes in next Tuesday. Everything else is small odds and ends, so maybe I can get back on track and get some water and at least the rock work done in the next couple months. Here's a couple of pics.
Started to do the wood work around the tank and the access panels.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2044.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2042.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2043.jpg
And what it looks like now.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2045.jpghttp://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2047.jpg
A lot done but still a pile to go.

[The Grizz]

Stand looks really good Bob, blends right in with the walls. I guess you can look on the bright side of the flood, new tank & part basement.

[freezetyle]

My god i am envious of some of the woodwork skills on this board. Your stand looks amazing

[Delphinus]

My god i am envious of some of the woodwork skills on this board. Your stand looks amazing

+1

[outacontrol]

Looking good. I noticed that you refinished the ceiling too, that must have been fun.

[reefermadness]

humina humina humina........gorgeous set up! Great work on the stand....so clean looking.

[The Codfather]

Looking good. I noticed that you refinished the ceiling too, that must have been fun.

Thanks Mike. Hey, Im going to have to work a bit in the panel. Sure could use some help, let me know when your free.

[The Codfather]

Stand looks really good Bob, blends right in with the walls. I guess you can look on the bright side of the flood, new tank & part basement.

Ya, it's been a pain in the butt, but the basement sure is opened up and looking good. Can't wait to get some water in and get started again.

[The Codfather]

My god i am envious of some of the woodwork skills on this board. Your stand looks amazing

Thanks, Im no carpenter, but it has worked out quite well.
Just don't look too closely, you'll see where I screwed up.

[lastlight]

Ya, it's been a pain in the butt, but the basement sure is opened up and looking good. Can't wait to get some water in and get started again.

By "in there" you mean the tank this time right? :biggrin:

Things are progressing nicely. Keep those pics rollin!

Is that a bathroom fan in the wall there? Will it's location allow you to effectively pull enough moisture out of the room? Maybe some stylish fans on the eurobrace aimed across the top towards the fan will help some?

[The Codfather]

By "in there" you mean the tank this time right? :biggrin:

Things are progressing nicely. Keep those pics rollin!

Is that a bathroom fan in the wall there? Will it's location allow you to effectively pull enough moisture out of the room? Maybe some stylish fans on the eurobrace aimed across the top towards the fan will help some?

HAHA, your a funny guy! Im hoping this is my last incident with water.:doh:

I don't know quite yet how Im going to finish this off, I had planned on a canopy over the tank. So the fan would quite easily remove enough moisture out(it is wired to a dehumidistat above the tank). This would also cut any of the glare off the lighting over the tank as well. Haven't quite figured this out.

If anybody has some ideas on how to finish this off, Im all ears.

[lastlight]

Oh if you have a canopy and the end is somewhat open to that fan intake you're fine. I thought you had pendant/open top plans.

[muck]

This is looking really good Bob. :biggrin:

[The Codfather]

Oh if you have a canopy and the end is somewhat open to that fan intake you're fine. I thought you had pendant/open top plans.

Ya, the intake would actually be in the canopy, obviously you cannot see that from the pictures taken, but it does stick out about 2" above the tank edge.

[The Codfather]

This is looking really good Bob. :biggrin:

Thanks Ryan, it's coming along, slowly, but it's getting there. Im hoping by Christmas to be operational, I would say sooner but I'm being realistic.
I'm going to talk to Dave or Brad about a sump, as thats the next thing on my list.

[Parker]

Im hoping by Christmas to be operational.

Yeeeeeah. Just to let you know, that's not really going to work for me. :mrgreen:

Things are coming to gether nicly!

[The Codfather]

Yeeeeeah. Just to let you know, that's not really going to work for me. :mrgreen:

Things are coming to gether nicly!

I was hoping for the end of summer, but..... ran into a little basement troubles. Like I said, Im trying to be realistic.
Im going to start the rock(base) work right away, hope to have it done in the next little bit. Then I can seed it with the 150 lbs I have left in the back room. Its amazing to see how many sponges have started to grow when there is nothing around to eat them.
At any rate, hope I can speed things up a bit, as I find myself becoming impatient as well. As nice as it was not to look after anything besides my kids all summer, I sure miss not having a functional tank.

[fishytime]

I'd be Jones- n too ..... It's looking really good tho mang!

[The Codfather]

I'd be Jones- n too ..... It's looking really good tho mang!

Thanks it's actually starting to look like something. Im even starting to miss my monthly stop at RC. Haven't had a chance to see the new place yet, looking forward to that though.

[martinmcnally]

Looking good man, love that rock overflow you built. Was that just base rock and some kind of cement mix in between them?

I wanna new tank!

[The Codfather]

Looking good man, love that rock overflow you built. Was that just base rock and some kind of cement mix in between them?

I wanna new tank!

It was base rock zipped tyed to eggcrate. I then used spray foam(used for waterfalls, and is marine safe when fully cured), when it was still wet I dumped sand and crushed coral on it, I still may epoxy it with another layer of sand, but Im sure the coraline algae will just cover it anyway and it will be all for not. It was actually quite easy to do, and I had alot of help from a few guys on RC that had done it before.
As for the new tank, can't help you with that one.

[The Codfather]

Well a few things to update. Mike was kind enough to stop by and wire in the panel for me. Thanks Mike, I owe you.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2059.jpg

I was in Calgary last week and managed to talk to Brad about a sump, so that's been ordered. While I was in cowtown I picked up a new light. Well new to me. It's a 6' solaris I5 and is in really good shape, I figure I will use this until I get my lighting figured out. It's LED old school(Brett, if you read this, this still gives me the option to join LWL by the way). Im actually quite surprised of how bright this thing actually is, and the programming(which is basic), is really nice as well.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2057.jpg

[outacontrol]

Well a few things to update. Mike was kind enough to stop by and wire in the panel for me. Thanks Mike, I owe you.


No problem. Its was nice to stop by and see the new tank, can't wait to see it full, its going to be amazing.

[fishytime]

Good to see ya today Bobby-bye........good to hear that ya figure that your on the home stretch as far as the build goes....

[lastlight]

It's LED old school(Brett, if you read this, this still gives me the option to join LWL by the way).

Absolutely there's no way that thing counts =) Nice score all the same!

[The Codfather]

Absolutely there's no way that thing counts =) Nice score all the same!

A quote from page 4 in your very own thread:

I'd like to add that we fully welcome previous Solaris owners. Please come grieve!

Thought I'd rub that in.

[The Codfather]

Good to see ya today Bobby-bye........good to hear that ya figure that your on the home stretch as far as the build goes....

Ya, been a while Doug. But with no water it just gets depressing going to the stores. Hope to change that soon, still have to make it to the new store. As soon as that sump is ready, she'll be piped in.

[The Codfather]

No problem. Its was nice to stop by and see the new tank, can't wait to see it full, its going to be amazing.

You'll have to tell the wife Im sorry for keeping you so long.

[lastlight]

A quote from page 4 in your very own thread:

Thought I'd rub that in.

Lol that's exactly what I mean. You're in man =)

[Myka]

So I'm hoping by the end of August to be operational.

It is Sept 12, 2011. Where's the H2O?! :mrgreen:

[The Codfather]

It is Sept 12, 2011. Where's the H2O?! :mrgreen:

Unfortunately it's still in the faucet. I do however expect my sump to be here in the next week or so. So that may mean water in the not so distant future.

[The Codfather]

Well I've heard a few good stories about these. Thought I'd give it a try. Time will tell, I hope to have a sump here soon, as soon as it's here, piping with commence.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2116.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2115.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2114.jpg

[Parker]

Look at that bad boy!!

[BlueTang<3]

It looks crooked

[The Codfather]

It looks crooked

That's quite enough out of you.

[The Codfather]

Look at that bad boy!!

Time will tell if this does anything, the skimmer is a beast already. Wont know for a while yet.

[cale262]

Is that the retrofit Bob?

[The Grizz]

Where did you get that rig from? What is the purpose?

[BlueTang<3]

Where did you get that rig from? What is the purpose?

Stole it from the local gas station, Its a self cleaning head for the skimmer keeps the neck clean and gets way more production

[The Codfather]

Stole it from the local gas station, Its a self cleaning head for the skimmer keeps the neck clean and gets way more production

What he said. Well except for the stolen part.

[The Codfather]

Is that the retrofit Bob?

Ya, It's the retrofit. I think after all what I've heard from you and some others about the lids, Im glad it turned out the way it did. At least I know it'll work and the tolerances are good. I will however have to modify the locker, I have to cut off 3" for the gravity feed, but it just so happens Im pretty good with acrylic.

[BlueTang<3]

If you were not so cheap and bought a real skimmer you would not need this option.

[The Codfather]

If you were not so cheap and bought a real skimmer you would not need this option.

Wow, what did I do to **** you off today! We going to cowtown this weekend?

[BlueTang<3]

I dont know are u?

[freezetyle]

you'll love the cleaner. I have a swabbie on my BK. although it has really made me lazy. i pretty much just look at the skimmer to empty the cup and maybe once a month wipe off the neck cleaner. Love your build so far!

[Hustler]

Great looking build :) Love the welding in the house too...wish i could get away with that

[lastlight]

Is that the aquadriver version you have?

I know the swabbies are the cheapest route but I recall reading a few stories about their performance and fit that cast a few doubts?

[The Codfather]

Great looking build :) Love the welding in the house too...wish i could get away with that

Just remember, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. I did it when she was out for the evening.

[dave_C]

Is that the aquadriver version you have?

I know the swabbies are the cheapest route but I recall reading a few stories about their performance and fit that cast a few doubts?

i have been informed that vertex will be releasing their version off the self cleaning head and it is not out to lunch as far as pricing goes:lol:

[The Codfather]

Is that the aquadriver version you have?

I know the swabbies are the cheapest route but I recall reading a few stories about their performance and fit that cast a few doubts?


It's a swabbie, I origionally wanted the new top, but they couldn't promise that it would work considering the clearances. So they sent a retrufit, and in hind sight, Im glad they did. Although I had to drill a hole in the lid myself, but it wasn't that bad. Good looking skimmer though, I must say.
(Sorry Brett, couldn't help myself)

[The Codfather]

Hey Dave, How's the progress on that sump? Do you know offhand?

[dave_C]

Hey Dave, How's the progress on that sump? Do you know offhand?



got the design last weekend, have to catch-up on two projects for a store in calgary for their display tanks than it is on to your sumps, hopefully in about a week and a half

thanks dave

[The Codfather]

Let me know, can't wait to see the finished product

[The Codfather]

Well I put in the base rock, placement is not final, and I'm looking for opinions. I don't think I will be adding much more rock than what is in there at the moment, maybe another 60-70 lbs to seed. I figure there is about 150-160 lbs in there now.
Please, let me know what you think, be honest, I am open to suggestions. I think the highest the rock goes is about 12" off the bottom, leaving about 10" of free swimming room around the centre overflow. There are a lot of open spots in the sand as well, I think I have a decent base to work with, but sometimes someone else has a better idea. Thanks.
South View
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2123.jpg
South east
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2122.jpg
South west
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2121.jpg
North east
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2120.jpg
North west
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2119.jpg

[lockrookie]

very nice im jealous

[AquaticFinatic]

I'm sorry if I missed it but when you made your overflow rock formation what kinda foam did you use? I have made one the same using rc as my reference but everything I put in there dies. Are you planning on soaking it for a bit or doing any kind of waiting period etc? Thanks and nice tank.

[kien]

Cool. Are the rods going to be exposed? Or do you plan to cover them with rubble or something?

[muck]

There are a lot of open spots in the sand as well, I think I have a decent base to work with, but sometimes someone else has a better idea.
Interesting idea Bob with the acrylic rods, but am I the only one that can't see any sand?!?

[outacontrol]

Looks really cool, can't wait to see mire.

[eli@fijireefrock.com]

I like the display:biggrin:.very interesting I would place some sand to cover those acrylics.I think one or two more rocks to make a cave on the right side of this photo.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2122.jpg

[The Grizz]

Ya Bob where is the sand you are talking about I dont see it either :lol: I think it looks cool & a great idea. I also wondering about the rods? I would think that with water in the are almost un-noticeable.

[reefwars]

you guys dont see the sand?? i do theres got to be about 5 inches in there lol looks good bob buddy:):)

[The Grizz]

you guys dont see the sand?? i do theres got to be about 5 inches in there lol looks good bob buddy:):)

Are you still snorting dry wall dust for fun Denny ?:lol:

[reefwars]

Are you still snorting dry wall dust for fun Denny ?:lol:


bahaha i am indeed lol these days i sell it to kids in the back alleys of calgary...stupid kids dont even know its drywall dust....supports my hobby i guess lol :wink:

[MarkoD]

that will look sweet. i really like the shelf piece

[lastlight]

As piles of rock they look nice ;) my concern is how close they are to the glass. Any coral mounted on the perimeter rocks cannot spread it's wings too far from the looks of things?

[BlueTang<3]

I think it would look better with water... and in my basement but what do I know.

[The Codfather]

I'm sorry if I missed it but when you made your overflow rock formation what kinda foam did you use?

Aquascape waterfall foam-from what I was told, once it has cured, it's fish safe and ready to go. The guys I know that have used it have had no problems.

[The Codfather]

Cool. Are the rods going to be exposed? Or do you plan to cover them with rubble or something?

There will be about 2-2.5" of sand so a very small portion may be seen, I was going to Cover the bottom couple inches of rod just in case anyway.

[The Codfather]

As piles of rock they look nice ;) my concern is how close they are to the glass. Any coral mounted on the perimeter rocks cannot spread it's wings too far from the looks of things?

I thought about this as well, the closest the rocks get to the glass is about 3 inches or so, I wanted to make sure that I had plenty of room. Nothing is final yet, but I will keep this in mind.

[The Codfather]

Interesting idea Bob with the acrylic rods, but am I the only one that can't see any sand?!?

Ryan, you have to use your imagination on this one.

[The Codfather]

I think one or two more rocks to make a cave on the right side of this photo.

I still have about 150 lbs of live rock in the back, so a couple of spots will be filled in.

[The Codfather]

So let me get this straight.......missing sand, exposed acrylic rods, and pile of rocks(that kind of hurt, Brett).
Alright, I will attempt to correct and post new pictures soon. Thanks, keep it coming, it's easier to fix while it's dry.

[The Codfather]

I think it would look better with water... and in my basement but what do I know.

Always a smart ass comment eh?

[The Codfather]

I would think that with water in the are almost un-noticeable.

They are harder to see when water is in the tank, but once the coraline algae hits them they are hard to miss. I used rod in my other tank, and wish I would have used something to cover them as I noticed them easily after some time.

[lastlight]

So let me get this straight.......missing sand, exposed acrylic rods, and pile of rocks(that kind of hurt, Brett).
Alright, I will attempt to correct and post new pictures soon. Thanks, keep it coming, it's easier to fix while it's dry.

Oh come on now =)

You won't see your rocks someday so the scape to a certain degree (imo) doesn't even matter. I actually complimented you on your rocks as they look now lol. I'm just concerned about proximity to glass. 3 inches is crazy close I think...

Sorry piles of rock should have been called artfully crafted rocktographic masterpiece =)

[The Codfather]

Oh come on now =)

You won't see your rocks someday so the scape to a certain degree (imo) doesn't even matter. I actually complimented you on your rocks as they look now lol. I'm just concerned about proximity to glass. 3 inches is crazy close I think...

Sorry piles of rock should have been called artfully crafted rocktographic masterpiece =)

Ya, I'll look at the distance again tonight. I always think of corals growing up not out and overhanging.
Good point, this is why I asked for suggestions.
I would appreciate if everyone from now on would use "artfully crafted rocktographic masterpiece" when refering to any aqua scaping.

[ponokareefer]

First off, it looks awesome!

My biggest concern would be if you ever got something in the tank that would move the sand around some, the rods will be exposed. This would cause a big eye sore. My engineer goby's would have them exposed in about half an hour. If you aren't considering ever getting something that may do this, then it isn't a big deal.

The other issue I could see with perchering the rocks up on pegs would be anemones. They may get underneath the rock and shift it around. They may even topple the rock on themselves. While it would be difficult to do, I've found anemones that live in the sand extremely powerful. If you aren't looking at this type of creature though, you have nothing to worry about.

[The Codfather]

First off, it looks awesome!

My biggest concern would be if you ever got something in the tank that would move the sand around some, the rods will be exposed. This would cause a big eye sore. My engineer goby's would have them exposed in about half an hour. If you aren't considering ever getting something that may do this, then it isn't a big deal.

The other issue I could see with perchering the rocks up on pegs would be anemones. They may get underneath the rock and shift it around. They may even topple the rock on themselves. While it would be difficult to do, I've found anemones that live in the sand extremely powerful. If you aren't looking at this type of creature though, you have nothing to worry about.

The rods will be epoxied with sand so that will be taken care of, as for the rocks. I would say the lightest one in there is probably about 20 lbs and the rods are glued in place on the bases, I will also use a small amount of epoxy or silicon to "pin" these bases in place before I fill with water. Trust me, they will not move. The only problem with this is, the rock will be a permenent structure. All in all, this might not be a bad thing, it will prevent the "lets just move this one rock senario".

[Myka]

I like your concept, it's different! I'm interested to see how it looks when the tank is "broken in". :D

[The Codfather]

I like your concept, it's different! I'm interested to see how it looks when the tank is "broken in". :D

Well I hope it all works out. I've done a few things that have been questionable, and some times I think I should have just gone with something a little more traditional. But I'm commited now and happy with the progress, if it works out the way I have it in my head, I know I won't be disappointed. I have a few things planned, that should work out to my favour by the design of the centre overflow, but I have been wrong before..........

[lastlight]

yeah all my coral directly under my lights have grown out and up. my scape is like a tower and all the stuff on the face of the tower is now light-starved. next one's going to have more of a rolling hill look to the underlying structure.

equal light for all!

[BC564]

I just read 23 pages of posts....not sure how I missed this thread but will now follow to the end....it looks fantastic.

[The Codfather]

yeah all my coral directly under my lights have grown out and up. my scape is like a tower and all the stuff on the face of the tower is now light-starved. next one's going to have more of a rolling hill look to the underlying structure.

equal light for all!

I did that in the old tank, the problem to that is the rock structure usually ends up higher than than expected. I want to attempt to keep at least the top half of the tank empty.
Thats another thing to consider though, how the lighting will be placed.

[lastlight]

You're going with LED so chances are you'll have diodes spread all over the place. The 'dark tower' problem is likely made worse with my halides. Still tho... the corals will def grow out. You could just mount them away from the outer edge of those rocks I suppose.

[muck]

... or just be breaking off frags constantly while cleaning the glass. If I know Bob you will want those broken off frags as they will be from stellar colonys. :wink:

[The Codfather]

Well what I was thinking in some cases was to keep the high light sps on the centre overflow, to let them grow out and up. I can keep lps and low light sps in the lower sections of the tank, Placing is going to have to be thought out regardless.

[The Codfather]

... or just be breaking off frags constantly while cleaning the glass. If I know Bob you will want those broken off frags as they will be from stellar colonys. :wink:

Thanks Ryan, I might cheat a bit to begin with. Instead of lots of smaller frags, I think I will just start with 8-10 larger colonies in the tank. I also plan to have a bit more of mixed tank, I really liked when I had the lps, I think it added more to the overall look of the tank.

[Delphinus]

I think it looks great.


You won't see your rocks someday so the scape to a certain degree (imo) doesn't even matter.

I agree with this though too. Don't sweat things too much, it looks great and it will look fantasticer when things fill in.

[outacontrol]

Hey are you going to silicone the acrylic bases down to stop sand and other debris from getting under them?

[doch]

Holy smokes Bob!!! You're outdoing yourself. She looks amazing! Sorry for missing this, but what are you using for lights?? Radions? How many?

[The Codfather]

Heres a few from this weekend's work. I epoxied the acrylic rods with sand, but still have to put on some work on them. The rest of the canopy will follow soon enough, just need some time.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2164.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_2165.jpg

[Hustler]

Looks amazing bro..... very well done

[fishoholic]

Wow this is looking good and moving along nicely. Now to get it wet! :biggrin:

[noirsphynx]

WOW! Looks awesome Bob!

[JOEL]

Wow it looks great Bob when will we be moving it to my basement?

[sully08]

Looks great Bob, can't wait to see it up and running. What kind of L.E.D's did you go with?

[BlueTang<3]

Looks great Bob, can't wait to see it up and running. What kind of L.E.D's did you go with?

Bob picked up a used solaris I-5 light it looks like a monster, he will probably supplement with a few modular fixtures just waiting to find one he likes. It looks even better in person.

[reefwars]

looks aesome bob buddy cant wait to see it full of h20;)

[fishytime]

looks aesome bob buddy cant wait to see it full of h20;)

+1......whateryawaitingfer????:razz:

[paddyob]

Geez Bob. Is that all you've done!

Is this supposed to impress us?

Ok. Well. It does.
:lol: