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scholar
09-26-2008, 05:12 PM
Well here is just a taste of what im building
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/august076.jpg
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http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/august082.jpg
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One question was my lights cost $119.00 for two sets can I cut the price in half since im only useing half of the product ??
Im going to for more of a techinical tank then crazy coral.

scholar
09-26-2008, 05:25 PM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture222.jpg
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Marlin65
09-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Very cool great idea what did those lights set you back?
Can't wait to see how they work.

scholar
09-26-2008, 10:12 PM
119.00 I was wondering if I can only clame half since im not going to use both??????

scholar
09-27-2008, 12:41 PM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture267.jpg
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scholar
09-27-2008, 12:49 PM
Come on 15th can wait to get water in this bad boy :) Im still very interested if the H.I.D will suport coral growth.

michika
09-27-2008, 03:17 PM
In regards to your lights can you tell me if I am reading this right; you bought two of the sets pictured in the box, and each set is $119? Or did you just by one set, as pictured, and only used one light? Let me know an I can make a call on your lighting.

What made you think up these particular lights? The dolphins?

I like your dog!

scholar
09-27-2008, 04:12 PM
No I bought one box of lights but im only useing 1 light from it. I wanted to do something 3d for the hanger so a dolphin it was wait to see what I have lined up for it though. acrilic and a 2 foot square by 1 foot 3D lath the possablities are endless... I chose these lights since I have read about people thinking about useing them but never going through with it I wanted to go big or go home!

don.ald
09-27-2008, 04:30 PM
looking good already! setting the standards you are!

michika
09-27-2008, 07:33 PM
Sounds good. If you have a photo of your receipt for the lights, would you post it, or send me the link please for an online comparison.

Keri
09-28-2008, 09:23 AM
You MADE the dolphin?! crazy!!

I look forward to seeing how those lights turn out!

scholar
09-29-2008, 12:56 AM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture291.jpg
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Well everything is now almost done for the tank build next will be the electronics. Im so ready to get water in this bad boy but I have to wait till the 15th correct??? grr I hate waiting.
What does every think so far?

scholar
09-29-2008, 01:09 AM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture310.jpg

Der_Iron_Chef
09-29-2008, 01:50 AM
Dude, that's sick. My own DIY skills include mixing saltwater and taking the green stick of epoxy and mixing it together with the purple stick of epoxy.

Well done! Very clever/thinking outside the box/etc/yadayadayada.

lorenz0
09-29-2008, 01:50 AM
i honestly can't believe your running HID's as your lighting lol

but i know exactly how your setting up your flow. i was/am going to be doing the same

sphelps
09-29-2008, 03:19 AM
Sounds good. If you have a photo of your receipt for the lights, would you post it, or send me the link please for an online comparison.
What happened to the honer system? That price sounds about right, I believe you can get similar units even cheaper these days.

scholar, I admire your innovation but have you looked into your idea? I have two concerns, heat and less obvious UV. Even with a fan you'll only remove the inductive heat, a fan will not remove the radiant heat which will likely cause big problems with such small volume. Not 100% sure but it's possible you may need a UV shield due to too much UV. It may also just be too intense, I've looked at those types of bulbs before they are brighter than halides and could blind your fish or damage coral.

Also keep in mind HID stands for high intensity discharge and refers to halogens, metal halides, mercury vapor, high pressure sodium and so on.

scholar
09-29-2008, 04:33 AM
There is very little about useing this type of lighting system on reefs other then in Japan and well ya... Im a mechanic and I know the heat these things can produce. I dont think my self that they will run any hotter then power compacts but I will have to see. I dont plan on keeping any fish in the tank but I do see what your saying about there health, if I do plan that road i will factor in the price of uv glass since I dont have access to it for free unlike acrilc. As for the par of this bulb i cant see there being a problem I have seen people use 50 000k bulbs on frag tanks to make zoo's and other coral do crazy morphs then ship them out (dont agree with this but it is done more then people think). There are many diffrent H.I.d kits available these days and yes some are 59.99 on ebay and some are 500.00+ I have no problem showing the price of the kit to people Im more happy that im going to be alowed to cut the purchase price in half.
I hope that every one is likeing this build now come one 15th i want water in this thing!! lol

scholar
09-29-2008, 04:37 AM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture318.jpg
A few more teeth were added from advice on nanoreef I was told that there wouldnt be enough flow with only 4

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/Picture320.jpg
last pic of the night or Am to you guys and girls

sphelps
09-29-2008, 03:22 PM
Well I'm interested to see how this works out. What's the wattage on one of those lamps? How are you planning on powering it since it runs on 12V. Not sure if you thought of this but if you could find a 12V pump and heater you could run the tank on battery and just have a charger keep the battery charged.

scholar
09-29-2008, 04:55 PM
The lamps are actually 35Watts only unlike your standard Headlamp at 65Watt. I plan on running the light with a computer power supply I had kicking around 12v 28amp they reqiure 20 or over to fire then run at 3Amp. If i were to look for a 12v heater and pump im sure that would put me way over the 250 limit. I think that im going preety far out to creat this tank as it is.

sphelps
09-29-2008, 05:47 PM
You can get RIO powerheads that run on 12V, range from about $10-40 depending on size. Not sure about the heater but I'm sure it could be done. By the sounds of things you would only need a 5A charger and fairly small battery. Battery powered reef sounds pretty cool.

sphelps
09-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Possible Heater (http://cgi.ebay.ca/400W-TEC-12V-Thermoelectric-Peltier-Cooler-Heater-New_W0QQitemZ200257065053QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4660QQ tcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

scholar
09-30-2008, 02:24 AM
hmm im going to stay with the direction im going right now I think tomorrow is going to be slow at work so ill be drilling the hole for the maxijet 600 and hooking up the power supply to the light YEH.

michika
09-30-2008, 02:30 AM
What happened to the honer system? That price sounds about right, I believe you can get similar units even cheaper these days.

I'm not familiar with the lighting myself so getting links to the type of product he is using is a way for me to educate myself and to make an educated decision as to if he gets to use 50% of the price or 100% of the price for just one light. No need to get up in arms.

scholar
09-30-2008, 02:33 AM
Hey guys no worrys at all im not affended at all :) i have just been up to my eyes today I will post a pic of my bill before i post any more pics of the tank:) like i was saying these lights can run from 59.99- 400.00+ this set is a highend set but it was a sale that came through my work hense why i thought about doing this... I hope every ones tanks are looking good

sphelps
09-30-2008, 05:15 AM
I'm not familiar with the lighting myself so getting links to the type of product he is using is a way for me to educate myself and to make an educated decision as to if he gets to use 50% of the price or 100% of the price for just one light. No need to get up in arms.

I was simply stating the price stated seemed reasonable and it was clearly stated this kind of stuff was based on the honer system. I just don't see why someone needs to take the time to post receipts. If you believe him then you know how much he paid so I don't understand why seeing the receipt will help you decide on the 50% or 100%.

To me it seems offensive to go against your rules and guidelines to target one contender because he's doing something innovative which I'm pretty sure was the whole point of the contest.

Why not give him the 50% he requested, he paid $120 for the kit but only used half, seems pretty obvious he should only claim $60 for his lighting.

Oh and a little research to settle your curiosity can go a long way. (http://gothidkit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22&zenid=00fa7b721569d60911f2c7310563dec5)

JDigital
09-30-2008, 07:59 AM
I was simply stating the price stated seemed reasonable and it was clearly stated this kind of stuff was based on the honer system. I just don't see why someone needs to take the time to post receipts.

PM'd.

scholar
09-30-2008, 11:02 PM
Well was a long day at work I got the hole drilled for the Maxi Jet return, im going to go with a 600 :) lots of flow. I also got the power supply all hooked up the light and it works great (yeh I was a little worried) Now i can start glueing in my baffles and welding up the acrylic. Now its also onto some sort of stand hmmmm.... Like I said I will post pics but have to find my bill first so I can show the price.

michika
10-01-2008, 01:31 AM
I'll take an internet link to the product instead if that is simpler.

scholar
10-01-2008, 08:59 PM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/august087.jpg
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The stand is made of an old Bell sighn (the blue oval) and the rest consists of an old night table laying around and some partical board. The mini power bar for the mini tank and a reworked computer power supply to power up the light.

scholar
10-01-2008, 09:00 PM
My bulbs are the 10K 9006

scholar
10-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Ok so just going over my budget just want to check to make sure I have this right.
Lights if it is approved= $60
The maxi Jet i had kicking around its sells for $21.95 so i count it as=$16.50
The heater is from wallmart 25watts=$12=Free
Compter supply i had kicking around I think they sell for $30ish=$20
The build material was all freebies and stuff kicking around the house plus I think that the building material was all free, correct?
So my total as i sit is either $96.00 or $156.00 depending on the judges about the light

Ryan_Lap
10-01-2008, 11:20 PM
There is no way you should be logically billed for both the lights when you only used one. Hopefully someone will get back to you about that soon. Who even makes the call on that?

JDigital
10-01-2008, 11:28 PM
Who even makes the call on that?

Myself and michika...


scholar. Thanks for the ad.. works for me. Take it as half. :)

scholar
10-03-2008, 11:28 PM
Well every one I have been bumped up to play with the big boys it will now be my 5.5 verse all the 10Gal entries due to no intrest in the 5.5 section:( Ohhhh well bigger they are the louder the crack when they fall.... (ya that was me trying be funny) The best part of this is i get another $25 for more coral sweeettttt more FRAGS!!!! still trying to figure out if im going to go with zoo's or try just a Monti tank?? any thoughts guys and girls?

scholar
10-03-2008, 11:37 PM
Thought i would post some pics of my 75gal for everyones pleasure. Hope every one likes it.
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/easter2008004.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/easter2008002.jpg

Chaloupa
10-03-2008, 11:56 PM
WOW, that looks fantastic!

GreenSpottedPuffer
10-04-2008, 04:32 PM
How is the intensity of the lighting? Can you give me some info on how you wired it up?

I had been thinking of trying this...

Great build so far!

scholar
10-06-2008, 02:14 AM
Well the lights are blinding to look at (I love them in my truck every one and their brother flashes you but hey lol....) I dont know how well the light will go through the water but i guess it will be trial and error. I have it wired up to a some what heavy duty computer power supply but im going to have to do the wireing again due to the light not fireing right away (dont think its good for the light to stay in warm up mood for a long period of time). Im just working out all these bugs now so I can have water in this tank and running come 12:01Am Oct 15th lol. I think i should be ok for a cycle since the rock is going to be going in a bucket when I do a water change on my display tank and then water and rock are going into the awaiting nano. Hope every one is haveing fun with there build !!!

scholar
10-13-2008, 05:14 PM
Well seeing that I was off today I thought it would be a good time to get the baffles put in place and get the dolphin properly mounted, I also snapped some pics of my idea for the return pump. I dont know if im going to use a Mj600 or a 400, so I drilled out a hole in the return side and affixed the spray nozel in there so I can place either pump in and out of the tank as with cleaning it. I was a little to hard on it though breaking off the flap when I was trying to place it in the tank so im thinking about just glueing it in place before the water goes in... Well here are some boreing pics, please dont mind my silicone work im not very good at it.
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/SeptOct025.jpg
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REDNECK_REEFER
10-13-2008, 11:53 PM
Interesting lighting choice. I like the layout of the tank though very well thought out. And if the hid's don't work then you can always mount a 150w halide over that.!!

scholar
10-14-2008, 05:07 PM
Thanks, I hope that it does work i figure that it will have to at least put out the same light as a Pc

ElGuappo
10-14-2008, 05:54 PM
i dont doubt that its intense enough the only thing i wonder about the light is what spectrum it puts out. looks great tho. :mrgreen:

scholar
10-14-2008, 06:43 PM
I'll try anything once :mrgreen:

scholar
10-15-2008, 01:09 PM
Well I was up this AM putting water in and found a slight leak around one of the baffles to I decided to empty the tank borrow the wifes blow dryer and then reinforce the baffles with some more silicone. Sooo now Im behind by 24 hours waiting for it to fully setup. But I guess this does give me some time to think about this theme ... I do have some DYI live rock that I can put in, it has been curing in fresh water for the last 3 months. I think that Im some how going to keep with the do it with the emphasis on DYI Hmm..

scholar
10-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Well as many off you can see I have yet to have water in mine. I hope to have this thing up and running by nov 15th for a photo. This is due to a seperation between my wife and I. Hope to be competing against you guys and girls soon.

justinl
10-21-2008, 06:24 PM
sorry to hear about the separation. hope you still continue with the tank. I am really interested in seeing how the lighting does.

JDigital
10-24-2008, 03:17 AM
Damn! Sorry to hear about the separation. I was wondering why there hadn't been any recent updates.

scholar
10-24-2008, 06:02 AM
ya it sucks but life goes on... I hope that our house etc will be sorted out soon so I can set it up and not worry about not being here for a week... I have lots of ideas for it though hope to still pull off some wow factor

JDigital
11-15-2008, 06:15 PM
Contest Reminder:

**Updated FTS and Budget Required today (Nov 15/08) to remain in the contest**

scholar
11-20-2008, 01:43 AM
well dont know if I have been kicked out of the contest but i have just gotten back into my house and the water has now been added into the tank... please let me know if I have been removed due to this

scholar
11-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Ok so just going over my budget just want to check to make sure I have this right.
Lights if it is approved= $60
The maxi Jet i had kicking around its sells for $21.95 so i count it as=$16.50
The heater is from wallmart 25watts=$12=Free
Compter supply i had kicking around I think they sell for $30ish=$20
The build material was all freebies and stuff kicking around the house plus I think that the building material was all free, correct?
So my total as i sit is $96.00

scholar
11-20-2008, 01:50 AM
I do also have two small sticks of sps that are being dripped into the tank as we speak, both are 1inch maybe slightly smaller. I will have to read the price sheets etc also by the looks of another thread the budget has been updated? wow i need to start reading lol.

scholar
11-20-2008, 01:50 AM
and posting some pic's as it looks like I have fallen way behind every one now.......

JDigital
11-20-2008, 02:17 AM
Update needed to be done by the 15th. This was made very clear from the beginning and reiterated many times, and I'm sticking to this ruling.

I'm sorry scholar, but you missed it. You've been removed from the contest.

sphelps
11-20-2008, 02:26 AM
Update needed to be done by the 15th. This was made very clear from the beginning and reiterated many times, and I'm sticking to this ruling.

I'm sorry scholar, but you missed it. You've been removed from the contest.
Booo, the poor guy had some obvious issues, let's not loose another contender. Who really cares if he's a little behind, his disadvantage.

Scythanith
11-20-2008, 03:07 AM
I gotta side with Steve on this one, not like it matters what we say. He's had a tough go at it it sounds like. I'd rather compete against him than have him spend the cash for no reason.

Just my 2 cents.


Booo, the poor guy had some obvious issues, let's not loose another contender. Who really cares if he's a little behind, his disadvantage.

Ryan_Lap
11-20-2008, 03:15 AM
I, as many other could probably care less right now. Rules...what rules???

ElGuappo
11-20-2008, 03:19 AM
I, as many other could probably care less right now. Rules...what rules???

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

sphelps
11-20-2008, 03:31 AM
I, as many other could probably care less right now. Rules...what rules???
There are certain times were rules can be broken and exceptions can be made for the greater good. Is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family? However it is wrong to steal a loaf of bread to save a few bucks on your monthly food budget.

Ryan_Lap
11-20-2008, 03:47 AM
stealing is stealing :lol:

sphelps
11-20-2008, 03:49 AM
stealing is stealing :lol:
I knew you'd say that.

Ryan_Lap
11-20-2008, 03:51 AM
Im a book. What can I say?:lol:

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 06:31 AM
There are certain times were rules can be broken and exceptions can be made for the greater good. Is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family? However it is wrong to steal a loaf of bread to save a few bucks on your monthly food budget.


ahahah yeah stealing is always wrong... one is just stealing because you need to and one because you want to but it's still wrong.


Looks like we're in an endurance contest... they'll only be 2 people left to vote for in 6 months ahah

Chaloupa
11-20-2008, 07:01 AM
Looks like we're in an endurance contest... they'll only be 2 people left to vote for in 6 months ahah

And..I'll be one of them!

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 07:04 AM
And..I'll be one of them!

ahah then I guess it'll be you and me

scholar
11-20-2008, 08:33 AM
Well rules are rules... if i may continue this build on this thread that would be awsome?

scholar
11-20-2008, 08:42 AM
RULES:

Spending limits:
- 5.5g AGA= $250 CDN
- 10g AGA= $300 CDN

Not covered in budget (i.e. considered "free")

- Contest Display Tank
- Building supplies (eggcrate, stand/canopy materials, plumbing, acrylic/glass scraps, etc)
- Sand
- Live Rock
- Water and salt
- Food
- Supplements
- Accessories less than $15 (mag floats, tongs, thermometers, etc)


GENERAL GUIDELINES & RULES:

- All used equipment utilized in contest will be deducted from your budget at 75% of the lowest advertised price from J&L Aquatics.
For equipment purchased online, only deduct the actual price of the equipment from the budget, don't deduct shipping costs.

- All live stock can come from anywhere, CR Vendors, LFS, online, whatever. If you use something from a current tank, you deduct it's fair market value.
If you purchase livestock online, you deduct the actual price paid for the livestock from the budget, but don't count shipping costs.

- Tank can be purchased locally and will not count against budget. (Sump tank will count against your budget, should you choose to incorporate one)

- You can mod your tank as much as you want, as long as you start with a STOCK tank and deduct costs from your budget.

- Budget is done on the honor system since we all know what its all worth (for most things).

- There is an entry fee of $20.00, which must be received by 10/15 to lock you into the contest. These fees will be used for the prizes at the end of the contest. Entry fees are non-refundable after 10/15.

- Contest begins Oct 15, 2008 and ends April 15, 2009.

In short, you've got 6 months to make a sweet tank on a limited budget. Lighting fixtures, filters, skimmers, and livestock all count towards budget, so manage wisely.


- Start a tank thread for your contest tank by Oct 15, so we can see it's progression as it goes along. It wouldn't hurt to put a link to your contest tank thread in your sig, but I don't know that we should require it. You don't have to start your tank thread immediately, as long as you do it by Oct 15.

- On the 15th of every month, post a FTS of your tank on your thread.

- When we reach the end of the contest, Myself (or Christy) will start a thread showing all of the tanks and their specs, with an attached poll for ALL of Canreef to vote on the winners.

- The winners will receive a gift certificate to the Canreef sponsor/vendor of their choice, taken from the entry fees.

- Basically, we'll take all the $$ contributed for the entry fee and divide it up into 3 equal portions for the winning gift certificates.



michika and I will be running the contest, so if you have any questions or concerns that cannot be addressed on this thread, PM one of us.

On a final note, the goal of this contest is to HAVE FUN and just see how many CREATIVE IDEAS we can all come up with and inspire each other with.

I've done the best I can to alter this contest for fit into our forum here on Canreef, but the fact is that not everyone will be happy with the contest rules as they've been established. If you don't think that you can participate under the established guidelines, then your time and $$ is probably best spent on a tank that you truly will enjoy and keep in the long run.
We want to keep this a positive and enjoyable experience for everyone, so...



Were in here does it say that i must provide a newly updated budget by the 15th if it hasnt changed? if this is why im getting booted out then my budget was the same as when i posted it 3 weeks back and as for a full tank pic on the 15th well there wasnt one to take... untill the last week or so there wasnt any one with the amount of pics that i have on my thread, and i still have more then the average person. in the rules it says that we must have started a thread by the 15th of oct i did that no were does it say I MUST HAVE WATER IN THIS THING even in march????????? So i guess congrats Chaloupa on the win with the 5.5

rocketlily
11-20-2008, 12:16 PM
Since so many rules have been changed and changed, I agree this might be one more little change. Let him stay.

"The heater is from wallmart 25watts=$12=Free" I don't think we can claim free on used heaters.

ElGuappo
11-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Since so many rules have been changed and changed, I agree this might be one more little change. Let him stay.

"The heater is from wallmart 25watts=$12=Free" I don't think we can claim free on used heaters.

i beleive that no heaters are free. freebies are only to incled stuff that is NOT a maditory port of the tank. just my feelings.

Also i have no cares to wheather or not your remain in the contest the way i see it the more the merrier.

sphelps
11-20-2008, 09:03 PM
Scholer you're welcome to stay in the contest if you still want to.

And yes I think the heater should be included in the budget. Everyone else deducted for a heater so fair is fair.

Cheers!

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 09:10 PM
i beleive that no heaters are free. freebies are only to incled stuff that is NOT a maditory port of the tank. just my feelings.

Also i have no cares to wheather or not your remain in the contest the way i see it the more the merrier.

The tank is free and VERY mandatory... if he wants to buy a cheap little Wal-mart heater be my guest... it's <$15 so I don't see what the problem is??

But no crying when you have to deduct all the fish that died because you forgot to turn the furnace up and the heater couldn't pull it's weight ahah

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Scholer you're welcome to stay in the contest if you still want to.

And yes I think the heater should be included in the budget. Everyone else deducted for a heater so fair is fair.

Cheers!

I doubt anyone else bought a 25 watt heater ahahah

sphelps
11-20-2008, 10:14 PM
Yeah Wes you're right it does say accessories less than $15 are free, I thought it was more clear that a heater was to be included in the budget but it's not. So Scholor I guess you don't have to include the heater in the budget unless you want to.

scholar
11-20-2008, 11:03 PM
thank you guys for letting me stay in and im going to be replacing the heater since this one isnt doing it the tank is holding a steady 72 lmao so i will be on the search for another. I do appoligize for any trouble I have caused

rocketlily
11-20-2008, 11:16 PM
thank you guys for letting me stay in and im going to be replacing the heater since this one isnt doing it the tank is holding a steady 72 lmao so i will be on the search for another. I do appoligize for any trouble I have caused

Apologizing for trouble caused:biggrin: Aren't you the most polite:smile:

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 11:18 PM
thank you guys for letting me stay in and im going to be replacing the heater since this one isnt doing it the tank is holding a steady 72 lmao so i will be on the search for another. I do appoligize for any trouble I have caused

ahah I knew it would cause you problems

superduperwesman
11-20-2008, 11:50 PM
ahah who gave the 3 star??

sphelps
11-21-2008, 01:32 AM
ahah who gave the 3 star??
haha I think someone had to 1 star cause it was 5 stars before and it takes the average.

scholar
11-22-2008, 01:30 AM
Well pulled out the small heater since it wasnt keeping the temp or even close to were i wanted it. I placed in a mini 100Watt heater I had kicking around. I came home from work and the temp was still room temp. The light was on and everything so i cranked it up to 90 and came back into the room an hour or so later to find that the tank temp was still sitting at 70... I then pulled the heater out and to find that the element was shot since i was holding it and the indicator light was on but it was producing zero heat. I then went back to the endless pile of used equipment I have to find another heater. with no luck on finding another small heater I was forced into placeing a full size 100watt heater in the tank well the water level in the back of the tank was right on the min line for the heater. I awoke this morning to find the tank at 87..... so me being cheep (lol) screwed me once again... So i brought the water level up in the rear chamber now by about half an inch thus covering the thermostat ( i think ) so the temp is holding steady at 79. if it works I will have to look the value up of the heater i know on jl and use 3/4 of but I want to see if this works.

another flaw I have had now is that I extended the wires on the lightbulb so I could hide them through the back of the stand. But when i went to fire the bulb it would just flicker. I have no put them back to the standard length and she fires everytime Im thinking that the amps were dropping by to much.

Floop70
11-22-2008, 01:34 AM
Any recent pics? I'm really interested to see how the HID's work for lighting.

scholar
11-22-2008, 05:54 AM
I will just went and got a desktop since my laptop found a new home.......... so i now have to by a card reader since i was sure to take my camara with me when i left the house. i will try to have pics up by the end of the weekend

scholar
11-22-2008, 11:51 PM
I have read that price increas thread so please correct me if im wrong I have 390.00 to play with now :)!! ????

whats the set price on a frag of a single head hammer / frogspawn and a two headed one???

Ryan_Lap
11-22-2008, 11:53 PM
to be exact $395.45

Ryan_Lap
11-22-2008, 11:54 PM
whats the set price on a frag of a single head hammer / frogspawn and a two headed one???


Hammer, torch, frogspawn, Bubble coral.. stuff will long polyps that reach out:
- $15 Small <3" (Skeleton @ Widest part)
- $20 Large >3" (Skeleton @ widest part)

It goes my size, not number of heads I believe.

JDigital
11-23-2008, 03:04 AM
I have read that price increas thread so please correct me if im wrong I have 390.00 to play with now :)!! ????

whats the set price on a frag of a single head hammer / frogspawn and a two headed one???

$95.45 added to the original 5.5 budget.

dabandit
11-23-2008, 03:10 AM
So..........how about those H.I.D's? I found a 110v version and am eagerly waiting to hear about how yours work out for you

superduperwesman
11-23-2008, 06:06 AM
Dude you should really update your first post with a Nov 15th shot (the latest picture you had before th 15th) and you budget

scholar
11-23-2008, 03:48 PM
I will but a camara with a sd card is useless to me when the ex took my laptop and the desktop i have doesnt have a reader built in... they will be posted Mon morning when i get to work so i guess that will be mon after noon to you.

scholar
11-23-2008, 04:07 PM
ok so here is my budget as of today
H.I.D head light-60.00
Used 404 Maxi Jet-19.95Jl= 15.00
Used Rena 100 Watt heater (cant find one on Jl) how does 20.00 sound?
1/4 Lb of sugar white sand=Free
1/4 Lb reg black sand= Free
2.5lbs of live rock= Free
2 under 3 inch frogspawn = 30.00
1 under 3 inch hammer= 15.00
2Frags of sps under 2 inch=30.00
Two MINI hermit crabs=??
small handful of cheto=??

Total so far =$170
wow doesnt take long to add up

scholar
11-23-2008, 04:08 PM
ohh when i do post a pic there is a mushroom on one of the rocks but it is getting removed it was an unwanted hitch hiker it doesnt fit the theme of the tank

sphelps
11-23-2008, 04:26 PM
Two MINI hermit crabs= $2 ($1 each)
small handful of cheto= Free

Everything else looks good.

scholar
11-24-2008, 07:09 AM
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0370.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0371.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0372.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0350.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0351.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0356.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0352.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0357.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0360.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0355.jpg

ElGuappo
11-24-2008, 09:18 AM
Looks good. light seems to be doing alright seems you have pretty good polyp ext. on the sps

superduperwesman
11-24-2008, 04:16 PM
Interesting sand... think you better change your tank name to "The Two Faced Tank"

sphelps
11-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Looks good! But it'll be hard to keep that glass clean with the rocks right up against it.

superduperwesman
11-24-2008, 04:38 PM
Looks good! But it'll be hard to keep that glass clean with the rocks right up against it.

True... I concur

dabandit
11-24-2008, 05:43 PM
She's a beauty,love how the dolphin hinges. What do you think about the light,is it a keeper?

scholar
11-24-2008, 09:52 PM
were there is a will there is a way. the light is awsome very little heat etc but i am going through 2 1/2 cups of water a day

superduperwesman
11-24-2008, 11:11 PM
were there is a will there is a way. the light is awsome very little heat etc but i am going through 2 1/2 cups of water a day

Dang that's enough... I think I get about 1 to 1.5 a day but that's on 15 gallons (10 gallon tank with approx 5 gallons of sump volume) How much does it swing your salinity? Do you have an auto top off?

ElGuappo
11-24-2008, 11:15 PM
is there a cover on the tank? just wondering as that seems like quit a bit of evap.

scholar
11-24-2008, 11:21 PM
no the tank doesnt have a cover and i keep the tank toped up all the time when i walk by i think it may have been so hi due to me keeping the house at 75 for the weekend i dont know...

superduperwesman
11-24-2008, 11:34 PM
Have you tried covering it? If so does your temp go up??

Ryan_Lap
11-24-2008, 11:51 PM
If he is keeping it topped up consistently as to not fluctuate the salinity than he probably doesnt need a cover.

scholar
11-25-2008, 12:26 AM
my temp is not a problem at all but it does seem like a lot of water but im keeping ontop of it i do plan doing a DYI auto top off drip system.

scholar
11-26-2008, 09:40 AM
thought i would post a pic of a new sps and to show the polyp extension :)
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0380.jpg

scholar
11-30-2008, 06:17 PM
Well have been monitering my temps and now that I have raised the water level in the rear of the tank i hae stabled out at 82.1 lights off to 83.4 with lights on for 10ish hours give or take. I still dont trust the light 100% so i make sure im home when i turn it on dont want there to be any fires... (99.9% that nothing can or will happen but just not that full level of trust)

scholar
12-15-2008, 05:46 PM
Well i had some troubles with my piower supply for the past week and a half so the last three days have been the first with light in awhile the sps has gone brown and didnt open for the first day with the lighting back on but it seems to be opening fine now.. it will just be a test to see if I can color it back up.. well here are the updadted pics. The tank has now fully cycled and the pods are looking after the cleaning for me since I have only done it once to date :)!!
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/117.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/118.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/119.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/121.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/122.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/123.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/125.jpg
H.I.D head light-60.00
Used 404 Maxi Jet-19.95Jl= 15.00
Used Rena 100 Watt heater (cant find one on Jl) how does 20.00 sound?
1/4 Lb of sugar white sand=Free
1/4 Lb reg black sand= Free
2.5lbs of live rock= Free
2 under 3 inch frogspawn = 30.00
1 under 3 inch hammer= 15.00
3Frags of sps under 2 inch=45.00
Two MINI hermit crabs2x1=2
small handful of cheto=Free
1 Snail=2

Total so far =$188
wow doesnt take long to add up
what if something dies or is removed when still alive is it duducted from the budget or you eat it???

dabandit
12-15-2008, 07:37 PM
Aside from powersupply issues,is the light still working out? Any burning or browning while it was on steady? Your one of only 2 people I've found who had the guts to try,the future of this light is in your hands lol

scholar
01-16-2009, 02:13 PM
well im sure im kicked out now and I ment to post yesterday due to so much sh*t going on in my life right now im going to have to back out. I will continue the thread as soon as things settle for me. im stilling taking pics and the tanks is doing great. thanks all and good luck to every one there are some nice tanks being made.

sphelps
01-16-2009, 02:23 PM
well im sure im kicked out now and I ment to post yesterday due to so much sh*t going on in my life right now im going to have to back out. I will continue the thread as soon as things settle for me. im stilling taking pics and the tanks is doing great. thanks all and good luck to every one there are some nice tanks being made.
If the tank is still going and you're still taking pics why not just post the pics and stay in the contest?? All you have to do is post a picture once a month.

I'm a little sick of people taking the easy way out, you made a commitment so stick with it. I've also thought about dropping out but I'm going to see it through to the bitter end no matter what. We all fought to keep you in this contest, don't let us down.

scholar
01-16-2009, 04:58 PM
ill also post the pics of my house getting robbed this week sorry but im backing out

sphelps
01-16-2009, 05:11 PM
ill also post the pics of my house getting robbed this week sorry but im backing out
Yeah sorry to hear that but if you have time to post words how come you can't post a picture you you already taken? **** happens, that's life. Some jackass breaks into your place and you're going to let them ruin everything else? Maybe you should quit your job to. You have my sympathy for being robbed but not dropping out of the contest, like you said you're continuing with the tank anyway and it's looking good and you have pictures. I just don't see the problem.

scholar
01-25-2009, 01:43 AM
Here are some updated pics for every one. Please be advized that the lights just came on not an hour before the pic's are taken.

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0530.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0534.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0537.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0540.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0544.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0545.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0546.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0551.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0556.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0557.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr186/scholar23/IMG_0559.jpg

Chaloupa
01-25-2009, 01:49 AM
FTS to see the acans??? They look fantastic!

JDigital
01-25-2009, 01:53 AM
Looks like that HID is sustaining your corals.... Any algae outbreaks?

Everything looks good.

christyf5
01-25-2009, 01:55 AM
Wow those acans are stunning :cool:

Sorry to hear about your house. I still think you should just post pics when the time is right for you. Especially if you've still been taking them and all :biggrin:

scholar
01-25-2009, 01:56 AM
I have the smallest and I mean smallest cycle ever and nothing out of the normal for setting up a new tank. But I have to introduce new coral VERY slow the the high light