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Old 07-13-2016, 04:51 PM
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ProBioF is bacteria and food source together, it's like NP Pro and ProBioS together in powder form.

I also don't know if you need to dose carbon AND run biopellets, usually one or the other, but I can see it working as long as you don't have absolutely zero nitrate.
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:45 PM
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ProBioF is bacteria and food source together, it's like NP Pro and ProBioS together in powder form.

I also don't know if you need to dose carbon AND run biopellets, usually one or the other, but I can see it working as long as you don't have absolutely zero nitrate.
You are right Pro Bio F is the combined formula of Pro F and Pro Bio S. Pro F is strictly a carbon source like np pro just a different type of carbon source.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:44 PM
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My salt showed up in about 5 days. It was delivered by ups. They just dropped it at the door, he didn't look happy to be lugging 25kg of salt to the door.
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:26 PM
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I also don't know if you need to dose carbon AND run biopellets, usually one or the other, but I can see it working as long as you don't have absolutely zero nitrate.[/quote]

I had a high nitrate issue and my bio pellet reactor is not big enough. I didn't wanna buy extra reactor. Vinegar is lot cheaper.

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Old 07-13-2016, 11:00 PM
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If you want to use the NP Pro they only have a reseller on Amazon.ca over-charging by a lot. Aquariumdepot.ca carries it for much cheaper.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:04 AM
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...he didn't look happy to be lugging 25kg of salt to the door.
He should have stayed in school.
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:13 AM
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He should have stayed in school.
I stayed in school and I don't look happy lugging a bucket of salt around either!
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:29 AM
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If you are required to dose Alk/Cal/Mag to maintain constant levels, you will still need to continue dosing these elements when adding Coral A / B / E / V as these supplements do not replenish calcium alk or magnesium.

In terms of vinegar that is a carbon source. Aquaforest makes NP Pro which would replace your vinegar and they also make pro bio F which is another carbon source. Either on of these products would replace your vinegar and biopellets, however, you would also need to supplement a bacteria Pro Bio S.

Aquaforests does make Component 1+ 2+ 3+ which is a calcium/alkalinity/magnesium and mineral salt system with the added Trace elements and heavy metals. Or you could make your own and add the trace elements (component strong) and mineral salt. This is what I do as the 5liter pre made jugs would be to costly in my system. Really depends on your system demand.

I currently running the full aquaforest system and have been extremelyhappy with it.
Good to know. Thanks for your information.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:30 AM
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Placed order. Exciting.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:37 PM
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Just wondering if anyone else is having similar experiences, but I use the following:

Probiotic Salt
Components 1+, 2+, 3+
AF A, E, B (but have recently stopped dosing these as I have had brown algae issues)
Pro Bio F (again stopped dosing *see below for details)

Anyways I recently stopped dosing the A, E and B as I was having some brown algae issues, and looking to have this clear up a bit before continuing.

*The main thing though is the fact that i have been running this program since June and only dosed Pro Bio F for the first 2 weeks and noticed my Nitrates being unreadable (actually 0 - OR under 1) so decided it was working all too well to reduce Nitrate. For the record I always had below 5 nitrates usually, and a low bio load, but I can't for the life of me get them to increase!

Are the probiotics in the salt enough for me? I figure if i increase my livestock (fish) I may need to dose Pro Bio F, but I have since nearly doubled my feedings and nitrate still hasn't budged.

I'm not complaining per-se, but it is definitely keeping my SPS from colouring up, as they are a bit pale.
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