Wellp, here's that video of the Vertex sump :D

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I'm going to kindly disagree with you here. Having seen what the industry is like in the States and abroad, I'm fairly confident in saying that a serious setup down South bears very little resemblance to what we see on the boards.

Agreed, lots of people willing and able to drop that kind of cash. It's a purdy unit for sure, just not something for me this side of a lottery win

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by e46er

I'm fairly confident in saying that a serious setup down South bears very little resemblance to what we see on the boards.

So show us what you are referring to ...

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

So show us what you are referring to ...

I didn't take pics, but if you doubt me, than I'll just leave it at that. My ego has no stake in this haha.

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I didn't take pics, but if you doubt me, than I'll just leave it at that. My ego has no stake in this haha.

I was referring to e46er's comment and was sincere

[e46er]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Sad to say I've prolly spent 10K on my 75g setup, but I see your point.
A sump is a $500 venture for the better setups, and $150 for an el-cheapo unit.

i also have spent probably 9-10 grand over the years upgrading and changing stuff but you spent 10 grand right off the bat to setup a 75G without livestock? I cant even imagine how thats possible
even with an apex BK couple radions and couple vortechs that still leaves you over 5 grand for the tank rocks sand sump return pump few reactors and plumbing and heaters.

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by e46er

i also have spent probably 9-10 grand over the years upgrading and changing stuff but you spent 10 grand right off the bat to setup a 75G without livestock? I cant even imagine how thats possible
even with an apex BK couple radions and couple vortechs that still leaves you over 5 grand for the tank rocks sand sump return pump few reactors and plumbing and heaters.

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

[The Codfather]

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

Those put me in excess of 30k after all the years And that's being optimistic!

[e46er]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Heh, you arent accounting for accumulated mistakes which should be factored into a build, IMO

ah yes IMO they should not be counted.IMO A build is how it sits.or the cost to build it up as it sits. "how much are you into the hobby for?" is where I would count it all.
i went from a 150 MH fixture to a 250 MH fixture to LED 3 mag returns and finally settled on a snapper. lots and lots heaters and powerheads over the years i woudnt include. i wouldnt say well since ive bought 3 lights and a dozen various pumps n powerheads so add 3 grand to it.

i relate it to vehicles. i bought my first car at 16, bought a BMW at 20 wanted a nice truck at 23 to haul bikes and dogs around easily so i bought a ram laramie not realizing what a pile of crap it was and currently have a ford platinum. i wouldnt consider that truck cost 200 grand since i made a few mistake purchases prior and decided to upgrade.

this is just how I interpret the question