Seahorse yellow/black Kuda, Coming tmrw

az @aquavalley · #1 03-25-2011, 02:20 PM

100 of them tobe exact, 80 yellow and 20 black Kuda captivebred seahorses, $29-$45.

also lots of fish, maybe cleaner shrimps, 100 new mini carpets.

thanks for looking.

rayjay · #2 03-25-2011, 02:36 PM

Who is the breeder?

What is the difference between the $29 seahorse and the $45 seahorse?
Do you ship to London Ontario?

az @aquavalley · #3 03-25-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rayjay

Who is the breeder?

What is the difference between the $29 seahorse and the $45 seahorse?
Do you ship to London Ontario?

sorry we will not tell you who the breeder is.

$29 to $45 depending on how well they do on arrival, color and qty you buy.

I think small box to London $30-$60 fedex next day, thanks.

rayjay · #4 03-25-2011, 05:26 PM

Well I'm sorry too as I'm looking to buy 8 kuda to add to my stables.
Unfortunately the term captive bred is too often misused and misunderstood in the seahorse trade, and not knowing the breeding source makes this proof unable to attain.
I'd like to explain, just in case you are not in the know.
Most seahorses brought into Canada in the last few years are considered to be tank raised or net pen raised. These are seahorses bred mostly offshore, but sometimes on this continent, but are basically raised in ocean water that is not sufficiently treated and filtered for pathogens naturally contained in that ocean water and as such, need to be put through a 3 drug, nine week protocol to remedy this and make the chance of success much greater and comparable to, seahorses that are truly considered to be captive bred.
Unfortunately, some seahorses don't survive the deworming protocol.
True captive bred seahorses come from breeders using properly filtered and treated ocean water, or, using water prepared from commercial salts, and as such, are much more expensive than the tank/net pen raised seahorses.
The cheap price of the tank/net pen raised seahorses is made possible because the breeders are primarily breeding for the Chinese medicine trade, where there is no need to take care of the pathogens the seahorses inherit from the ocean water. They simply siphon off a very small percentage of the hatch to sell to the aquarium trade.
Stores here in Canada, including sponsors of Canreef, who are selling true captive bred seahorses, like ones from Aquamarine International, benefit from advertising the breeding source because it speaks of better quality and better chances of success for the hobbyist.

az @aquavalley · #5 03-25-2011, 06:17 PM

I hear you but I still cant give out any other info, even if you bought all 100.

lets see how they do as I havent got them yet, if supplier says they are captivebred thats the information I have to share, if they were wild whatever, I will sell them as wild.

However, he did mention they were eating frozen shrimp and beef.

rayjay · #6 03-26-2011, 12:14 AM

Yes, most tank/pen raised seahorses in the trade are trained to eat frozen.
Please post when you know condition and size of these and I may still get some and put them through the deworming process.

zenafish · #7 03-27-2011, 08:33 PM

Frozen shrimp and beef? LOL. I didn't know seahorses prefer surf and turf for a menu.

Given the lowest end CB reidi from a reputable source retails for $55 all over Canada, $25-45 CB kuda will definitely open up the market.

I look forward to seeing some pics, maybe some stock, even.

Triggz · #8 03-27-2011, 09:23 PM

That kinda threw me off too! Never heard of people feeding their seahorses "beef" before.

I did a search for the word "beef" on seahorse.org

0 results.

az @aquavalley · #9 03-28-2011, 03:24 PM

I never heard that too but I gave out the info I got.

so there were a mixture and not just kudas, few orange one came in too.

tried frozen shrimp but didnt seem interested as they looked tired still. will try again today. I did put in few bottles of live tiggerpods just in case.

rayjay · #10 03-28-2011, 07:49 PM

It would definitely not be unheard of for the seahorses not to eat for a day or two because of the stress of shipping. Worse if they came direct from offshore and not through a transhippers holding system.
If there is live food in the tank, it will be even longer before they touch frozen mysis.
Another problem I've found is that many don't take to just any frozen mysis, and reject most brands I've been able to find.
Hikari mysis seems to be the thing that works for me the best but you have to find a way to get it from the USA as our Canadian government has screwed up anything from Hikari getting to us through normal channels.
Kuda DO come in multiple colours, but just remember that they usually don't stay the colour that they come in unless that is their choice for their surroundings.
The best way I've found to keep some of the colours is to paint the bottom, ends, and back of tank a very light blue, the lightest I could find in a spray bomb at the stores.
Rock in the tank tends to change them darker as it's not a natural occurrence
in seahorse habitat.
Warmer water also seems to help, but then more mortalities are experienced because of the increased bacteria presence due to warmer water.
IMO and experience, bacteria is the number one killer of seahorses, with pathogen exposure from other tank mates not raised in the same breeding facility being second.