Are they that rare? (Earles wrasse)

[AdamsB]

So over the past year or so I've like a bunch of pages, channels, forums etc. on the FaceTube. Most are recent and national due to this forums macna exposure (which having "local" guys on site sharing photos is awesome, Derek's reef store particularly stands out)

But I digress. A forum which I liked and joined, although rarely go to, reef2reef (I'm not sure if forum sharing is ok) but they post some pretty neat things on Facebook. One recent post was of a retailer selling some pretty expensive wrasses, among other nice fish.

So I understand rarity, his quarantine process and 4 week guarantee. But are they the only factors Involved with the price here? Given that there are more beautiful wrasses out there, especially to the American market.
http://www.nicewrasse.com/fawrcfa.html

[naesco]

Originally Posted by AdamsB

So over the past year or so I've like a bunch of pages, channels, forums etc. on the FaceTube. Most are recent and national due to this forums macna exposure (which having "local" guys on site sharing photos is awesome, Derek's reef store particularly stands out)

But I digress. A forum which I liked and joined, although rarely go to, reef2reef (I'm not sure if forum sharing is ok) but they post some pretty neat things on Facebook. One recent post was of a retailer selling some pretty expensive wrasses, among other nice fish.

So I understand rarity, his quarantine process and 4 week guarantee. But are they the only factors Involved with the price here? Given that there are more beautiful wrasses out there, especially to the American market.
http://www.nicewrasse.com/fawrcfa.html

They may not necessarily be rare but found only where few fishers go.
There is nothing special about the 'American' market. If you want a fish go to your Lfs and tell them the name size and sex of the fish and they will order one in for you. If disinterested go to the next lfs

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by naesco

If you want a fish go to your Lfs and tell them the name size and sex of the fish and they will order one in for you. If disinterested go to the next lfs

Will keep that in mind the next time I'm looking for a Doctor Seuss fish... Oh no, wait.

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Will keep that in mind the next time I'm looking for a Doctor Seuss fish... Oh no, wait.

I'm sure if you find one it's pay up front. Your risk.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden...+3&ddid=188631

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by paddyob

I'm sure if you find one it's pay up front. Your risk.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden...+3&ddid=188631

Hah, I was speaking glibly, but the fact remains - an LFS may be under constraints which prevent them from ordering any given rare fish X. Availability IS a real thing and so is operating capital. Rare fish aren't rare because of a storefront's prohibition towards making money.

[naesco]

The real point I was going make whether any fish or coral is that if you don't see what you like in the store, ask the LFS to order one in for you.

I agree that rare fish add another problem but the LFS and their suppliers are more likely to help find one for a reefer than a reefer looking for one himself.

[kien]

Originally Posted by paddyob

I'm sure if you find one it's pay up front. Your risk.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden...+3&ddid=188631

SWEET! I've been waiting for that fish to go on sale for FOREVER!!

[AdamsB]

I have no such luck with LFS.

[naesco]

Originally Posted by AdamsB

I have no such luck with LFS.

The Lfs get an order sheet. They check off the fish they want to order from the supplier. Tell the llfs to check off the fish you are looking for.
If they are not interested in serving you speak to the owner manager.

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by naesco

The Lfs get an order sheet. They check off the fish they want to order from the supplier. Tell the llfs to check off the fish you are looking for.
If they are not interested in serving you speak to the owner manager.

That's totally not the way it works if you want something rare.

Here's how it actually works:

Your store will get a list of availability from a wholesaler or transhipper.

The fish you want will either be there or it won't.

If it doesn't and your store has the resources to deal directly with the specialty collectors, they can then assess whether or not it makes financial sense to put in an order through one of them. If they want to deal with some of the super high end dealers out of HK, for example, they need to pony up a $10k+ order.

If that isn't within the means of your store, then that's the end of it. There's no stigma against rare/expensive fish. They just aren't available through the common channels and the means to acquisition may be beyond the reach of your average store.