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Old 01-12-2018, 02:56 PM
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Ok so I’m having an issue with ick. I’ve now lost 2 tangs to it. What I’m asking is what is the best way to deal with it. I’ve read copper works but kills inverts. Is there anything that won’t take out corals or inverts? What are my best options. Thanks
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:16 PM
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You'll need to QT your fish (all your fish) and treat them to properly rid Ich. Here is a good read on what you can/need to do.
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forum/i...d-facts.23132/
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:21 PM
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Microbe-Lift Herbtana and Garlic Guard.

I'm on day 6 of the 10 day treatment and my clown which was very infected with ick is not almost completely clear of it. It boosts all other fishes immune systems as well.. none of my other 12 fish are infected and all my corals and inverts are all happy.

I've read it works for some but not everyone, some will say my fish will all die if I don't QT and go fallow for 60 days etc... perhaps that is the only way to completely remove ick from a tank.. but tearing apart my aquascape and stressing out all my fish/inverts/corals in the process just seems like a disaster also waiting to happen.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:27 PM
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Microbe-Lift Herbtana and Garlic Guard.

I'm on day 6 of the 10 day treatment and my clown which was very infected with ick is not almost completely clear of it. It boosts all other fishes immune systems as well.. none of my other 12 fish are infected and all my corals and inverts are all happy.

I've read it works for some but not everyone, some will say my fish will all die if I don't QT and go fallow for 60 days etc... perhaps that is the only way to completely remove ick from a tank.. but tearing apart my aquascape and stressing out all my fish/inverts/corals in the process just seems like a disaster also waiting to happen.
This will not kill Ich, it might help the fish live through the life cycle but it will not rid the tank of Ich. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1852814
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:43 PM
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That’s an old article on reefcentral
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:44 PM
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Do you want to completely eradicate it, or just live with it? The former requires a level of dedication that not many are willing to do.

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/ich-er...management.45/ best summary on it in the hobby imo.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:45 PM
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it isn't going to solve an already present outbreak but i do believe there is some truth to running uv as a preventative measure provided the wattage and flow are scaled properly to the system volume.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:48 PM
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That’s an old article on reefcentral
Yes sir you are 100% correct that's what it is, also a lot of feedback on the product you are using/advising. Doesn't work.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:53 PM
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Yes sir you are 100% correct that's what it is, also a lot of feedback on the product you are using/advising. Doesn't work.
Well it worked for me and 3 others here in town that recommended it to me. Maybe it doesn't kill it like I said but going the fallow/qt method isn't an option for everyone.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:08 PM
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Get a cleaner wrasse. There's another product on the market that is supposed to be reef safe called 'Kick Ich'. I've tried it before and didn't really hurt any coral but some people don't advise putting anything in their tanks which i don't disagree. At the same time, I believe that products like kick ich are safe for reef tanks. Kick ich is supposed to work in such a way that prevents the protozoa from repopulating, not exactly killing the parasites directly. It works almost the same as a UV sterilizer, so if you believe they help aquariums then likely kick ich would too. But I don't think it would be magical either.
I understand you would rather not tear down a whole tank to QT fish etc. Your only option is to raise temperature, use or not use reef safe medication, and let the Ich run its course. If some fish live through then they should continue to live through it. If it wipes out all your fish then let the tank be empty for at least 6 weeks before adding them again. And, if you don't have a UV sterilizer already then invest in a big enough one for your tank for some future preventitive piece of mind.
It's always a trial and error, lucky/unlucky bout when it comes to aquatic diseases led by a lot of anectodal debates.
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