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Old 08-17-2008, 07:01 PM
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Exclamation Valonia vs Bleach - Round 1 - Ding! Ding!

[[[[For my own reference: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php]]]]

I will kill you, you $#%^&@% Valonia %$#$* one way or another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:-(



It's been over a year's battle with Valonia. I removed all my rocks and "cooked" them in a Rubbermaid for like 12 weeks in the dark about a year ago. Although the phosphate was completely undetectible with a D-D MERC phosphate kit, and the Valonia was nowhere to be seen when I put it back in the tank...IT CAME BACK!!! With a vengeance. I was doing weekly waterchanges manually removing it for 6 MONTHS, still didn't work.

After all that, I had a breeder trap in the tank with 30 baby Bangaii in it contributing to MASSIVE over-stocking...which only made matters worse. Then I had hair algae too! So, once a week I would patiently take scissors, and trim back my HA forest so I could see my (surprisingly) happy corals again, and remove as much Valonia as I could find. This made for 60% waterchanges...haha. Anyway, the baby Bangers aren't in there anymore, so the HA has 95% disappeared, but the #$&#@$&@#$@#($%!&#$% Valonia...dear God what did I do?????????? *pulls hair out*

Ya, so I'm going to remove all my rocks and bleach em. I know there's other ways...like a blow torch. Although a blow torch sounds like WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much fun, and absolutely satisfying(!!!!), I don't have a torch and I'm too lazy to go buy one for $6 because holy hell it's hot out there and my car doesn't have ac. BUT, I have BLEACH!!!

So...any comments on the ratio of bleach:RO/DI water and the length of dip time would be grandly appreciated!! I'm hoping to find the fine line where I can kill ALL surface life, but keep the anaerobic bacteria inside the rock intact. Hmmm...

Oh, and I have lots of Prime on hand to neutralize this devastating natural disaster that is about to happen!!! Bleach is natural after all - errr maybe not.





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Old 08-17-2008, 07:43 PM
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To bad you didn't have a bigger tank, my Naso tang loves to eat valonia. I actually have picked it off the rock in my small tank and thrown it in the big tank for him to eat. The foxface that I had would eat it too.

Edit: Oops, I posted this under Steve's user name. I didn't realize I (fishoholoic) wasn't the one logged in

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:29 PM
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Ya, that would be waaay easier than bleaching the dang rocks!!!
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:39 PM
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If you think that is a bad outbreak of valonia I'm glad I have no pics of my old tank
Hopefully something you've thought of... if you bleach the rocks your could have a massive die off of critters inside the rock which will release nutrients into the tank and make a whole bunch more valonia grow.
Wouldn't it be easier (seeing as how your taking the rock out of the tank anyway) to just manually remove it all? You might have to do that every couple of months for a while but eventually it would be all gone
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:53 PM
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If you think that is a bad outbreak of valonia I'm glad I have no pics of my old tank
Hopefully something you've thought of... if you bleach the rocks your could have a massive die off of critters inside the rock which will release nutrients into the tank and make a whole bunch more valonia grow.
Wouldn't it be easier (seeing as how your taking the rock out of the tank anyway) to just manually remove it all? You might have to do that every couple of months for a while but eventually it would be all gone
Haha! Got pics of your old tank?

I manually removed the Valonia during weekly waterchanges RELIGIOUSLY for 6 months, but there are nooks and crannies my leetle fingers just couldn't get into. I suppose if I removed the rocks on every waterchange and manually removed it may have worked...but seriously??

Oh yes, after I bleach the rocks they are going through a dark cook in Rubbermaids again. When I removed the rocks and just did a dark cook a year ago I manually removed all traces of ALL nuisance algaes before the cook, then cooked for 12 weeks, and lo and behold the Valonia came back.

So, I did the manual removal. I did the manual removal and dark cook. Now, I'm going to do a manual removal, bleach, dark cook!!! It better work...
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Wouldn't that make your rock dead live rock??? Lots of $$$ down the drain!
Wouldn't it be easier to add a tang or foxface and treat is as if it's a QT, then when you are sure it's gone for good you could bring the fish back to lfs for exchange or something. I know you're not supposed to put tangs or rabbitfish in small tanks but don't we all do that when they are in quarantine for a couple of months?
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:23 AM
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Now, I'm going to do a manual removal, bleach, dark cook!!! It better work...
It won't.... you could boil, cook, microwave the rock till it is as devoid as life as a lunar rock, but once you start to introduce live stock it will come back. All you need is a coral that carries a spore of Valonia an you are back to square one. Just a matter of time.
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