Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Polls

View Poll Results: In consideration of Tank Crashes...
My tank has suffered a full crash 20 13.33%
My tank has suffered a partial crash 34 22.67%
My tank has never crashed, but has potential problems 40 26.67%
My tank is bullet proof 16 10.67%
Crash caused by equipment failure 21 14.00%
Crash caused by temperature deviation 13 8.67%
Crash caused by electrical failure 13 8.67%
Crash caused by system design flaw 7 4.67%
Crash caused by water chemistry 15 10.00%
Crash caused by low oxygen levels 8 5.33%
Crash caused by disease or parasites 15 10.00%
Crash caused by Old Tank Syndrome 2 1.33%
Crash caused by New Tank Syndrome (rushing it) 6 4.00%
The cause is not listed in this poll 13 8.67%
The crash was completely out of my control 9 6.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-20-2011, 05:55 PM
abcha0s's Avatar
abcha0s abcha0s is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 545
abcha0s is on a distinguished road
Default Why do tanks crash?

If you have ever suffered a full or partial tank crash, what caused it? Alternatively, if you have never suffered a major tank crash, is there any part of your system that could potentially cause one in the future?

Last edited by abcha0s; 06-20-2011 at 06:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-20-2011, 07:34 PM
kien's Avatar
kien kien is offline
¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸. ><(((º>
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 7,665
kien will become famous soon enoughkien will become famous soon enough
Default

My tank crashed due to a design flaw, which led to an electrical failure, which led to equipment failure, which led to a temperature deviation, which led to low oxygen levels, which led to a water chemistry change, which led to disease and parasites, LOL. Seriously though, in my experience it tends to be a cascading series of unfortunate events which does stem from one or more points of origin. The sad part is, sometimes (or most of he time), it can be hard to pin point exactly where it all started to go down hill..

edit: wasn't referring to my current tanks BTW. Rather, previous tanks I've had. I've tried to learn from those past mistakes, and so far so good *knock on wood*
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-20-2011, 07:42 PM
sphelps's Avatar
sphelps sphelps is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Lyalta, East of Calgary
Posts: 4,777
sphelps is on a distinguished road
Default

No tank is bullet proof, any kind of equipment can fail at the right time to cause a fatal crash. I had a partial crash once due to a programming error in my controller logic which shut off the return pump over night. Almost had another one due to a damaged overhead power line.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-20-2011, 08:25 PM
badAZZlars badAZZlars is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 230
badAZZlars is on a distinguished road
Default

The issue that I ran into was a snail in my sump getting stuck in my return pump while on vacation.

Quite a bit of water had evaporated from the display and the temp was quite low by the time I got things fixed. No major losses but some of my coral frags browned out.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-20-2011, 09:12 PM
fishytime's Avatar
fishytime fishytime is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: E-town
Posts: 5,390
fishytime will become famous soon enough
Default

Full on crash for me.... And full with capital letters.....caused by moving the tank
__________________
260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-20-2011, 09:25 PM
Dez's Avatar
Dez Dez is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 1,793
Dez is on a distinguished road
Default

Only crashes I've had are due to vacations and very capable people "looking after" the tank and being lazy. (not topping up sump and letting it run dry).
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-20-2011, 09:34 PM
eli@fijireefrock.com's Avatar
eli@fijireefrock.com eli@fijireefrock.com is offline
Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: calgary
Posts: 1,758
eli@fijireefrock.com is on a distinguished road
Default

I never had any crash ever no equippment,no heating,no electrical and no chemical problem in any of my tanks, i think simply because i take my time for everything.

Well once only due to house fire shorted wires in bathroom killed all fish (lack of oxigen) i voted to bullet proof so far crossing my fingers.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-20-2011, 10:10 PM
abcha0s's Avatar
abcha0s abcha0s is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 545
abcha0s is on a distinguished road
Default

I've had a couple of misfortunate happenings.

My last fresh water tank was shut down due to a heater malfunction. The heater stuck on and cooked the tank. While the loss was sad, this sent me looking for an aquarium controller which lead me down the salt path.

I had two flame wrasses die in my 90G from what I believe was shipping stress. (A good argument for QT). The problem was I couldn't get the dead fish out. The water quickly went bad. With a series of massive water changes and the careful use of Prime, I lost only my shrimp and brittle star. The rest of the tank survived but it was a very close call.

I had another near miss when my Tunze ATO pump decided to stop working while on vacation. The return chamber in the sump ran dry and the return pump ceased. The real problems started when the tank sitter found the problem. After replacing the return pump and restarting the ATO pump, the ATO proceeded to pump 5 gallons of Kalk saturated water (pH 12.4) into the tank. The pH in the tank quickly rose to over 11.

Heres where the controller saved me. I received an alert for high pH and figured out what had happened. The tank sitter returned to my home and slowly brought the pH back down with vinegar. No losses. Thanks Bryce.

My new tank has two controllers, two return pumps, two groups of heaters, two fans, two ATOs, two auto feeders, and two skimmers. All of the critical equipment is split across two separate electrical circuits. Each controller manages one set of the listed eauipment. I'd still say there are potential problems, but I've gone a long way towards reducing risk.

I asked the question just for fun and to see what other peoples experiences have been. I'm very happy to learn from other peoples mistakes - especially if it saves my tank. Anyways, the chiller poll had been up for long enough.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-20-2011, 10:41 PM
viperfish's Avatar
viperfish viperfish is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Dawson Creek
Posts: 684
viperfish is on a distinguished road
Default

Mine started when I purchased my Apex Controller. There was a problem with the sensitivity and it would constantly reset the EB8 so a heater became a chiller dosing pumps would run contsantly etc. etc. it would reset on randon days but always at midnight. so a lot of damage was done while I was sleeping. I finally went online with it and the rep from Neptune logged into my controller and fixed it up. It is a great controller and I've sworn by it ever since. I did lose almost all my SPS in the process, a bunch of inverts died, cyano outbreak to the point where I had to bake my rock to cure it. To make matters worst I transferred my fish to a tank without a controller, I had the temp set correctly in the holding tank with my Rena heater. That night the heater stuck on an I woke up with all my fish dead! Some of these I had for years, my large yellow Tang and Hippo Tang were the biggest dissappointment. The silver lining was my Maxima and Squamosa clams lived! Go figure. I'm a big fan of redundancy but I learned the hard way that it just takes a moment and it can happen to anyone.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-21-2011, 02:19 AM
Snappy's Avatar
Snappy Snappy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 4,675
Snappy is on a distinguished road
Default

As they say - there are two types of reefer's ------those who have had their tank crash and those who haven't -----------------yet!

I have had too many different issues and things go wrong I couldn't list them all. (especially since I don't know some of the causes)
__________________

Greg
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.