Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Reef

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-12-2014, 03:53 AM
trilinearmipmap trilinearmipmap is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Prince Rupert B.C.
Posts: 1,213
trilinearmipmap is on a distinguished road
Default Plumbing advice re: reliability of pvc unions

I'm going to re-plumb my tank after many years. I wanted to know people's experience with unions.

So far I have only had unions on drain lines which are over the sump, in case of a leak it would drip into the sump. None have leaked though.

I am looking at adding a couple of unions to the return line for ease of access, and these would be in the back of the tank. A leak would be a minor disaster.

Just wondering if people have experience on leaking or non-leaking of return lines which are under pressure.
__________________
120 gallon sps/anemones/LPS reef since 2004
Apex controller
8 x 54 watt T5 PowerModule
Herbie's silent overflow system
Jebao DC 12000 return pump
Jecod CP-40 Cross-flow circulation device
Mini Bubble King 180
Barr Aquatics calcium reactor
Bucket fuge
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-12-2014, 03:56 AM
Proteus's Avatar
Proteus Proteus is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Devon
Posts: 2,784
Proteus is on a distinguished road
Default

I have unions on return lines without issue.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-12-2014, 04:03 AM
The Grizz's Avatar
The Grizz The Grizz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: 15 min NE of Red Deer
Posts: 5,470
The Grizz will become famous soon enough
Default

Same here, always have unions on returns and never an issue. I use an o ring grease to make sure they don't dry out and seal tight.
__________________
Feed the bear goodies, make a new friend, don't feed the bear...............

8' - 165gal Reef
DIY LED's Build
2012 Nano Contest Winner
Febuary 2013 POTM Winner
300 gal + 60 gal Complete DIY Build
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-12-2014, 05:21 AM
trilinearmipmap trilinearmipmap is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Prince Rupert B.C.
Posts: 1,213
trilinearmipmap is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks, will do it.
__________________
120 gallon sps/anemones/LPS reef since 2004
Apex controller
8 x 54 watt T5 PowerModule
Herbie's silent overflow system
Jebao DC 12000 return pump
Jecod CP-40 Cross-flow circulation device
Mini Bubble King 180
Barr Aquatics calcium reactor
Bucket fuge
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-12-2014, 05:49 AM
Madreefer's Avatar
Madreefer Madreefer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Prince George
Posts: 2,064
Madreefer is on a distinguished road
Default

With correct primer and glue you shouldn't have any problems at all.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-12-2014, 05:58 AM
craigwmiller craigwmiller is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 233
craigwmiller is on a distinguished road
Default

Some have a flashing of plastic on the non-o-ring side of the union left over from the molding process... I use some 600 grit then 1500 grit sand paper to smooth it down. Saves the o-ring from distress.
__________________
Single System Setup: 210G SPS reef, 225G FOWLR, 72G water change, 50G frag, 120G sump. I promise a journal at some point! (anyone need some coral frags? I likely always have stuff that is frag-ready)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-12-2014, 07:09 AM
The Guy The Guy is offline
busy with fresh water.
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 1,041
The Guy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap View Post
I'm going to re-plumb my tank after many years. I wanted to know people's experience with unions.

So far I have only had unions on drain lines which are over the sump, in case of a leak it would drip into the sump. None have leaked though.

I am looking at adding a couple of unions to the return line for ease of access, and these would be in the back of the tank. A leak would be a minor disaster.

Just wondering if people have experience on leaking or non-leaking of return lines which are under pressure.
I have unions on my return PVC piping to be able to take my check valve out for cleaning and it's never been a problem, just don't over tighten them. Do up hand tight then 1/8- 1/4 turn more with channel lock pliers.
__________________
Hey! I never "LEFT" the hobby, just doing fresh water now. Which is still listed as part of Canreef if I'm not mistaken.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-12-2014, 01:09 PM
mark's Avatar
mark mark is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Edmonton AB
Posts: 4,212
mark is on a distinguished road
Default

O-rings will deform. No problem leaking if left alone but if in a few years you take things apart might nice to have new ones available for when you re-assemble.

Last time cleaned CL pump noticed them rather flat, not leaking but took measurements to have next time.
__________________
my tank
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-12-2014, 02:33 PM
Madreefer's Avatar
Madreefer Madreefer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Prince George
Posts: 2,064
Madreefer is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Guy View Post
I have unions on my return PVC piping to be able to take my check valve out for cleaning and it's never been a problem, just don't over tighten them. Do up hand tight then 1/8- 1/4 turn more with channel lock pliers.
That's how I tightened one a long time ago and I broke the bond where it was glued on. But I did'nt use primer. As for the o-ring seal i've never had a problem. It's actually a good idea to use unions on external return pumps in case your pump or pump seal goes, much easier than having to cut your plumbing.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-12-2014, 05:16 PM
1eyedjyde 1eyedjyde is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Prince George
Posts: 112
1eyedjyde is on a distinguished road
Default

its always a good plan to use unions around the wear items on your plumbing ie pumps, check valves, wave devices. It makes maintenance possible without having to dismantle your plumbing.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.