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How to keep an empty tank alive?
Hello. My searches in the normal places couldnt find an answer so new thread. Being that I've got some water circulating in my tank now I figure I should get the cycle started. I've done it with pure ammonia in the past with success and am doing it again this time. The plan was to cycle the tank, when the cycle completes I was going to grab a bunch of rubble from somewhere and add that to my tank to seed it with some pods, worms and probably some algae which I'm really good at growing. Anywho, I'm wondering now when the cycle completes and I add this life to the tank with the rubble I probably shouldn't be spiking my tank with ammonia. So at that point how does one keep the tank alive but empty? I don't want to lose my bacteria base by stop feeding and have to cycle again. The plan is to keep it this way till sometime in July. Being that I'm starting with dry rock I want to take things really slow and give things a chance to really establish. Plus I'm out of town for a good week and a half in June and don't want the wife to have to worry about the tank. I also will use this time to set up my qt system and maybe get someone in there for monitoring, maybe. Depends on the wife. Thanks for any input.
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Add rubble now
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add your rubble now so the bacteria have a place to live.are you going bare bottom or sand?a nitrate reactor will give a place for bacteria to live as well-very easy and cheap to build
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Don't use ammonia, that's a FW method. All you need in SW is some live rock/rubble.
Just use the rubble as suggested above. Add your dry rock now too. That will give the bacteria time to seed the dry rock. Or instead of getting rubble just go buy some live rock. Let the rock and/or rubble and the dry rock sit in the tank until you're ready. That would be great. You could "feed" the tank a couple times a months with a small amount of flake (or w.h.y.) food if you want. |
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Really? Huh. See I figured that you would want your bacteria base before adding life so they don't go through any spikes. I think I understand what your writing. Instead of building a large bacteria base now, adding life then maintaining said life your saying Add life now and slowly introduce food to grow the bacteria. Ok so if that's indeed what you are meaning then what's a small amount? I would imagine it would need to be a little progressive as well? I'm good with doing it this route and going slow but I also don't want to think everything is good and then add a fish and see something spike. The last tank was full live rock so that's easy but I've decided to go a slower less "crabby" route with dry rock and seed it with rubble where things have a harder time hiding. It's just hard to know what will maintain all the good stuff while the tank is empty and getting comfy.
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Any other suggestions? Thanks to the help so far.
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A small amount of food to sustain the system would be, say, a 1cm square piece of flake food or a few pellets or a piece brine or mysis shrimp. If you add too much you will end up with more nitrate than the rock can deal with, so you really don't want to add very much. Using ammonia to cycle would amount to adding a large amount of food and you would end up with a large amount of resulting nitrate you would have to deal with. Since you have a lot of time that could be spent cycling and "cooking" the live rock, you could purchase 100% live rock and give it a 20-30 minute 1:4 vinegar bath. This will make all hitchhiking critters abandon ship quite quickly in the bath, but won't be strong enough or long enough to do much harm to the nitrifying bacteria, or more importantly, the denitrifying bacteria. Just another approach to consider (I'm not a fan of dry rock haha). Another thought, if your system is showing any nitrate or phosphate it would be wise to keep the lights off. If there are nutrients in the water and nothing to eat algae you will end up with a nice "lawn" of hair algae or other nuisance algae. Last edited by Myka; 04-06-2013 at 10:28 PM. |
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Did you not have a pretty successful tank last time? I thought you took it down last time due to problems with your house. Seems like your doing alot of over thinking and worrying about nothing really.
George is talking about moving and will be taking his tank down. You'll be able to get some live rock from him. If not I know of another guy in town that'll be getting rid of some pieces as well. |
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