return pump

[jason604]

my return pump is 2x stronger than what my external overflow pump can handle so ive been diverting half its flow back into sump which is wasting electricity.. do u guys think a maxi-jet 1200 is enough as a return pump for a 75g tank?

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by jason604

my return pump is 2x stronger than what my external overflow pump can handle so ive been diverting half its flow back into sump which is wasting electricity.. do u guys think a maxi-jet 1200 is enough as a return pump for a 75g tank?

Nop a maxijet 1200 is not enough as any tank's return pump unless its a AIO type small tank (like BC14/28). MJ1200 cannot take the head pressure that is needed for a sump to DT return. For a 75g tank, you will be aiming for something like 600 to 800gph. Which pump are you using?

[banditpowdercoat]

You can restrict the outlet of a pump, and its current draw acctually drops. Current draw is related to the water flow. More flow, more current. Never restrict the inlet of a pump, always the outlet.

[jason604]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Nop a maxijet 1200 is not enough as any tank's return pump unless its a AIO type small tank (like BC14/28). MJ1200 cannot take the head pressure that is needed for a sump to DT return. For a 75g tank, you will be aiming for something like 600 to 800gph. Which pump are you using?

im using a 600 gph pump not sure what the brand is cuz the name is scratched off as my dad gave me his extra pump. im using a eshopps 300 hang on overflow and as full pump capacity the overflow cannot handle it.

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat

You can restrict the outlet of a pump, and its current draw acctually drops. Current draw is related to the water flow. More flow, more current. Never restrict the inlet of a pump, always the outlet.

i have tried this as i read that reducing a pump discharge in my textbooks will reduce pwr consumption, but it doesnt say anything about doing so for a permanent amount of time so i was affraid that it might damage the pump in the long run? Can someone confirm/ deny this?

[FishyFishy!]

I vote buy a new return pump that suits your needs. But if that is not an option, there shouldn't be a problem with cutting back the flow with a valve.

The Maxi-Jet wouldn't even make a trickle in your tank. I had a MJ1200 return on my Fluval Edge nano, it was about 2 ft head back to the tank... and it barely had any flow at all.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by jason604

Can someone confirm/ deny this?

I've always run my return with a restricted output. My current MAG 12 is probably cut by 30%. This pump has been running like that 5+ years.

[Dearth]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I've always run my return with a restricted output. My current MAG 12 is probably cut by 30%. This pump has been running like that 5+ years.

+1

Running your pump with reduced outflow actually increases the life of your pump considerably

Never ever restrict the flow in as you can cause major damage to the pump and cause the pump to cavitate

[monkE]

same here, i've got a gate valve on my return pump to limit it's flow. With any tank that has a herbie drain in their overflow they need to be able to restrict that return pump to keep the over flow water level in the correct place.

[mseepman]

Originally Posted by monkE

same here, i've got a gate valve on my return pump to limit it's flow. With any tank that has a herbie drain in their overflow they need to be able to restrict that return pump to keep the over flow water level in the correct place.

Really, I've always controlled herbie's through the gate valve on the main siphon...never on the return.

[monkE]

Originally Posted by mseepman

Really, I've always controlled herbie's through the gate valve on the main siphon...never on the return.

this was my first herbie setup so maybe i've done something differently. I had to play with both to get that water level stable. i suppose it would depend on the output power of the pump though.