Off and on since 1973 under gravel filter wood air stone skimmer and reddish rock. Flame angle 150 got all my stuff from Ancient Mariner on Main Street in Vancouver. I even had a Hawksbill sea turtle that they gave me as the came in by mistake and I raised it until it started chasing my flame gave it to Van aquarium. Used to do some water changes with ocean water warmed up. Fun then still is
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