[tang daddy]

I would say that the 60w Cree eshine don't have super great coverage, however when I first got my DIY led from rapid running on my 75, I definately bleached my flower anemone and toasted a few encrusting monti and all my digi, also never seen stylos bleach so bad. Its true what others have said, they don't look bright to the eye and you definately can't match intensity by looking at your tank. I had to turn my LEDs down to 50% which looks dim but colours are coming back now... Lesson learned these crees have superior penetration and par.