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 yup and when you have parts that areCnC Machined
 Hot welded
 tight fitting pieces that don't move when adjusting like the flow and water height.
 super quiet pumps, RD, Ehiem, Askoll,
 bigger Air lines for more LPH
 dissemble of parts to clean.
 Sch 80 Plumbing parts.
 
 it all adds up  I would rather pay the money in
 Bubble king
 Deltec
 Vertex cone
 for good skimmers and
 
 the name is huge and dependable
 
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 Doesn't matter how much you have been reading until you take the plunge.
 You don't know as much as you think.
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