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Originally Posted by Van down by the river
There is no difference. They are the same fish,
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The wild distributions do not overlap. Unless there is some more recent documentation that I haven't read, I thought that they were still considered different species. Although personally I do agree that they really ought to be considered a single species but different strains due to the different ranges.
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well, the thing is. I can't really trust their word! they seem a bit..shady.....i am sure they'll say anything to sell their fish....they'll just tell me what they think i wanna hear
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If you feel you can't trust them why do you buy from them?.....
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You know, business practise debates aside, no LFS is going to want to be caught in a lie. I think most places, if asked, will be up front about this sort of thing. "Of course they're tank bred." "Of course they're wild caught." If they make a claim that a fish is captive bred and it isn't, they're going to look so incredibly bad that most of them just aren't going make that crazy claim in the first place. "Oh yes, this is a captive bred Moorish Idol. That's why there's only one in the tank." Can you imagine? Any LFS that lies about that sort of thing is going to weather a huge afterstorm. No, I think it's pretty safe to just ask. You don't have to ask who their supplier is, but you can (I think) safely ask if a fish is wild-caught or captive-bred. Assuming that it is one of the species that is commonly available captive-bred. No sense in asking about tangs, for example. But maybe one day that will change, who knows.
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"Mated pairs" usually don't come from breeders. Why would they give up good broodstock?
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You seem to be disputing what I said... Which is odd, because you're only just agreeing with what I said.
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I'd really like to discourage people from buying these pairs as the removal of productive breeding pairs from the reef seems counter productive to the long term of the hobby.
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Truth is, I have not seen an obvious wild-collected breeding pair up for casual sale at a LFS for a very long time, and I think this is a good thing. My example was just a cooked example, I was trying to illustrate how you can use your own common sense to guage whether you think clownfish for sale are captive bred or wild caught. I do see fish which I believe to be wild-caught but not mated pairs. One would hope that this is only available under exceptional circumstances (at the very least). Such as a commerical entity looking to increase genetic diversity. But even then, such a goal is attainable without the removal of a productive pair from the wild.