I guess I'll put my rambling two cents in too.
Just because a fish eats well and slowly starves does not necessarily mean cyanide poisoning. Fish, like humans, get roundworms and tapeworms.
There are many diseases; bacterial, viral, protozoan, cestodes, trematodes etc that will kill fish very quickly and mysteriously. The method used to acclimate a fish can also cause sudden mortality at a later time. ie float and dump. Also, just because the "tank parameters" happen to be OK the moment they were tested does not necessarily mean that they are Ok at night. ie dissolved Oxygen
One can not even be sure that the supposed target species are cyanide caught. It depends on the exporter, do they have their own collectors on salary or do they buy from the "free lancers" or middlemen. How experienced are their collectors?? The inexperienced ones will use cyanide while the experienced ones know they can catch more fish using nets, and they will be able to catch fish there year after year. Some of the older exporters also know this and don't allow their salaried collectors to use cyanide.
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We want to know that the fish we buy are not cyanide caught fish from the Phillipinnes or Indonesia.
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Naesco, are you saying ALL fish from the Philippines are cyanide caught?
On principle I do not import Tangs, Triggers, Angels, Butterflies from Indonesia, nor would I buy one imported from Indonesia, nor would I shop at a store that listed Indonesia as a source for them. I import those species from my supplier in the Philippines, I can be 100% sure that they are cyanide free.
While on the "showing customers the invoice" topic. If a customer asks me where a fish comes from I will tell them. Those coral beauty's are from the Philippines, those ones over there are from Tonga, that one is from Fiji etc. If they insist on seeing an invoice then they are calling me a liar and that will be the end of the discussion. If they doubt I would tell them the truth on origin should they not also doubt that I would tell them which fish are from what source??
Some of the very best Philippino netsman went to the Red Sea to train collectors there. I believe they are still there.
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You can't purchase Goniapora spp. at J&L's but I'll bet you guys can find it if you want it.
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Troy, please do not judge an animals ability to survive in captivity or its appropriateness for captivity based on whether an LFS can keep it alive.
There are many factors that can greatly affect an animals chances of survival in captivity, the majority of these happen before the animal even lands in Canada or Los Angeles.
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Big Al's have a lab report stating that such and such fish were tested (I think it was clowns and if they need cyanide to catch clowns then we have some serious problems) and were certified cyanide free. The certificate is from back in '99 I think.
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At least they went to the effort to get one. I think they are the only store that did that and I am sure they must have paid more for those fish.
Did ya know they use cyanide to catch wild bangaii's. Why not just throw a barrier net over the urchin and bangaii's. One would think it's pretty simple.
Cheers,
Tim