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Midway 10-22-2011 05:45 PM

Looking for berghia nudibranches for my Aiptasia problem
 
Hi there,

Would anybody know when I can get some of these guys in town (Calgary)? I have a bad Aiptasia problem in one of my tanks.

Thanks,

Manny

Baldy 10-25-2011 04:49 PM

I have looked around a fair bit as well and was unable to find any. I broke down and ordered some from salty underground in the states. Shipping unfortunately isn't cheap though

reefwars 10-25-2011 05:10 PM

nudis are such an expensive way to treat aiptasia and more than half the people either lose or kill there nudis plus they take forever to wipe out plaque proportions. breeding them is the only way to go and adding rock a piece at a time to a small tank with little flow or just air bubblers. plus if your aiptasia was to come back as nudis dont always find their food and the nudis died off from starvation then you would be back to square 1.


matted filfish is the way to go just watch for nipping on corals, ive had 2 and one was a model citizen for his whole life and the other just nipped here and there, they can wipe a tank of aiptasia in a week and is only around $50 for the fish .they dont need a huge system and they are very easy to pass off if you dont want to keep it. they eat prepared foods after their job is done and are very hardy.

sorry not wanting to steer anyone away from buying nudis because they def do work but if your gonna spend over a hundred bucks on something you should also know there are alternatives.

once the nudis are done there job youll have to either let them die or turkey baste as many as you can and try to farm them yourself or pass them on.....if you can find them in a reef as they are nocturnal and very tiny and good at hiding in rock crevaces.


again just putting it out there not trying to downtalk nudis so dont anyone get mad :):)

Baldy 10-25-2011 05:58 PM

Everything I have read abot the filefish tells a very different story though. Whatit sounds like to me is with a filefish, your coral goes with the aiptasia.

Aquattro 10-25-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGuy (Post 644968)
Everything I have read abot the filefish tells a very different story though. Whatit sounds like to me is with a filefish, your coral goes with the aiptasia.

Not at all. I have zoos, SPS and LPS, the only thing any of the 6 file fish I've had ate were aptasia and flake/mysis.

Baldy 10-25-2011 06:08 PM

Well, the berghia are already on the way, so I'll give them a few months to see what they can do. I have 16 small sized nudis ordered for my 75g (yes I have a pretty bad aiptasia problem) and if I don't notice much change, that will be the next thing I try. Aiptadia x definitely doesn't work that well at least with an infestation like mine.

reefwars 10-25-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewGuy (Post 644968)
Everything I have read abot the filefish tells a very different story though. Whatit sounds like to me is with a filefish, your coral goes with the aiptasia.


there are alot of people who have success with filefish a quick search on here will tell you so, there def are reports going both ways so like i said they can go for corals as well while some do not.another thing is to remember it has to be the matted filefish any other filefish will do you no good.i had mine in a zoanthid dominated tank and the only thing it ate was a few polyps of nuclear greens.i had plague porportions of over 300 heads in a 33g tank to the point where there were crazy amounts of tiny heads growing up through the zoas.if i had of waited for the nudis my zoas would be gone , even though the nukes were nice it was a small price to pay for saving around 80 different kinds of zoas and palys from being stung to death.

the nudis do work as do alot of other products and fish/inverts like peppermints and butterflies but none of them are a guarantee so it could be hit or miss with a few different things.

goodluck man im glad im not in that boat anymore lol:):)






Baldy 10-25-2011 07:54 PM

Hut in response to the OPs question, so far I'm happy with the service from salty underground. I will reply again after I receive the package on thurs

daniella3d 10-25-2011 09:07 PM

Breeding them?? are they easy to breed? if people can breed them then why are they so hard to find?

I would really like to buy some as well as when I had my flatworm problem it was a black velvet nudi that solved it in one month. I like my zoanthids too much to have any filefish.

Anyone breeding them in Canada?

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 644961)
breeding them is the only way to go and adding rock a piece at a time to a small tank with little flow or just air bubblers. plus if your aiptasia was to come back as nudis dont always find their food and the nudis died off from starvation then you would be back to square 1.



reefwars 10-25-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 645019)
Breeding them?? are they easy to breed? if people can breed them then why are they so hard to find?

I would really like to buy some as well as when I had my flatworm problem it was a black velvet nudi that solved it in one month. I like my zoanthids too much to have any filefish.

Anyone breeding them in Canada?


they are very easy to breed they breed daily from what i understand.i had mine in a large mason jar with a air stone , and would feed them little heads as they were eating them.once they had babies i would move the babies to another jar using a turkey baster.you can tell if they are eating by their color and the obvious aiptasia being eaten.i would let the jars float in my tank to keep the temp where it was supposed to be.an air stone to provide oxygen and very little flow as they can get swept into current and be suspended in water untill they either get eaten,starve or find something to grab hold of.

heres the problem, nudis like i say are a slow process, not only that but they run the risk of getting eaten, sucked into equipment, and they can get eaten by larger aiptasia they are also very expensive.nudis need to attack in numbers to do any dent in aiptasia and they constantly breed untill you have enough nudes to clean out your tank. once they are done eating they will die from starvation unless you set up another breeding tank in which case you need to have enough aiptasia to keep them fed.

i was breeding them for a while but to be honest its such a pain in the ass and not all babies make it alive.

i would go peppermint shrimp long before i go nudis again. in the end after adding about 50 babies to my tank it was the filefish who cleaned them right out, even in a small tank with lots of zoas and palys to eat my filefish barely touched a thing.


because of my eel,tank size and number of aiptasia i was dealing with these were my only 2 options if i wanted to keep my rock.


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