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FlamesFan 03-25-2009 12:37 AM

ZEOvit, thats the question
 
Well it seems to be that every day on RC and at least once a week on Canreef there seems to be a new thread on the ZEOvit system. Lots of people with questions about starting the system and lots of current zeo's with questions about dosing. I figured id give it a shot at getting all that "knowledge" packaged into one thread.

Anways I figured id start with what im currently dosing along with how much and how often. Id also like to see what everyone else is dosing out there. Please make sure to post your current system volume.



Volume: 90g display 20g sump

ZEObak - 4 drops 3x week
ZEOfood - 4 drops 3x week
ZEO AminoAcid Concentrate - 2 drops daily
ZEOstart2 - 0.6ml daily
Pohl's Xtra - 4ml daily
ZEOspur - 4ml every 15 days

Atm im debating also adding CV and sponge power after hearing good results from them.

I have had a good experience with the ZEO system. Great SPS growth. I did however had a couple softies die off which I have a feel had to do with the low nutrients.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-25-2009 12:44 AM

I am becoming ZEO's number one fan :D

Love the system and I am still only using the basics.

240G Net Water Volume

1.5L reactor with about 1.5L of stones.

.8ml Start2 twice daily (but who am I kidding, most days I dose just under 2ml once)

8 drops food three times a week

8 drops Bak three times a week

Coral snow...I stopped for a week and started to get a tiny bit of cyano. I had not seen any while using the stuff, so I am off to get more asap. IME this stuff works to keep the cyano away.

mark 03-25-2009 12:59 AM

any chance in the details could put up a cost estimate/day

Madreefer 03-25-2009 01:04 AM

[QUOTE IME this stuff works to keep the cyano away.[/quote]

I agree with you on that one for sure. I have a small peice of cyano that is gone the next morning after a dose. This is what I dose:
Coral Snow - 1 capfull every 2nd day
Pohl's Xtra - 1 capfull every 2nd day
Pohl's Coral Vitalizer - 3 drops every 2nd day
Sponge Power - 3 drops every 2nd day
display is 144G
sump is 20G
refugium is 15G
I have been doing this since Feb 23 and have seen good growth and good color and extremely clear water. This may sound unbeleivable but I started to see results in the first week. I was going to buy the reactor but was told that a refugium can not be used with the reactor.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-25-2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 403488)
any chance in the details could put up a cost estimate/day

I can try to give an idea of what it costs me as of now for my 200 with 75G sump.

Reactor $160

I will estimate the costs of these additives based on what they cost and what I have gone through this month. Its quite easy since on the new tank, its been exactly a month since I started ZEO again. And I bought most of the additives a month ago...

Monthly (approx):

Stones $15
Carbon $10
ZEObak $10
Coral Snow $15
ZEOfood $5
ZEOstart2 $5

Weekly water changes (roughly 60G a month) $30

So a total of approx. $90 a month for my 200G including water changes that would be done anyways. In the future I will be dosing more additives but even then, its just another $5 a month here and there really. IMO well worth it :)

I get to keep lots of large fish and feed them a ridiculous amount but still keep nutrients down and keep corals also very happy. I have never had fatter fish and nicer colored sps. Something that has not always gone hand in hand in the past.

digital-audiophile 03-25-2009 01:41 AM

90 Gallon Display w/ 30Gallon sump.

Current dosing:

zeobak - 3 drops 3x week
zeofood - 6 drops 3x week
zeostart2 - 0.5ml daily (split .025 morning/night)
Coral Snow - 2ml daily
Amino Acid- 2 drops x day
Sponge Power - 4 drops x day
ZeoZyme - 1 Teaspoon 1x week
Zeolites - Change every 6 weeks
ZeoCarbon - Change every 4 weeks
Reefers Best Salt - 5 Gallon water change x week

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-25-2009 07:03 AM

You know I just realized your a "Flames fan"...I don't think I can help you anymore...sorry.


Just kidding...
















Well kind of...once the playoffs come along I can't talk to you anymore

lobsterboy 03-25-2009 08:23 AM

I added the cost and its like, $25 bucks a month, for dosing.
thats spread out over 6months or so, not the inital cost of the base system and elements

Jason McK 03-25-2009 02:28 PM

I'm sorry I do not know my costs. I did the break down about 2 years ago but no longer have the data

Net water 300G
3L Zeolith
ZeoBak 7 drops 3X/week
ZeoFood 7 Drops 3X/week same time as Bak
ZeoStart 0.6ml twice a day
CV 7 drops/day
AA 7 Drops/Day
B-Balance 6ml 4 or 5 times/week
ZeoZym 1 teaspoon/week

I've tried other addatives but these are the standards

J

digital-audiophile 03-25-2009 03:52 PM

I did a breakdown in excel, I can email it to anyone that may be interested in working their own numbers.

But I calculated my costs to be $54.44/Month. Although this is some what misleading. I have included salt and carbon in that calculation and they add up to $23.47, now assuming that everyone not using the zeo system still runs carbon.. and does regular water changes this can fairly be removed from the monthly operating cost.

Making this assumption my monthly cost would really be $30.97.

That being said I am not buying these products every month so the cost is spread out.

I should note my prices are based on current J&L website pricing.

I hope this helps everyone out a little bit.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/zeotable.jpg


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