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Mik_101 07-07-2007 04:26 AM

Like i said my water parlements look fune(so far) if they turn to the wose nateL will take care of them.

Mik_101 07-08-2007 12:51 AM

Ok maby time to get my fish to nateL...
WATER PARLAMENTS
pH-8.4
Ammonia-0.25ppm
No2Betwwen 0 and 0.25 ppm
No3-5.0 ppm
SG.-1.022
:sad: :cry:

Mik_101 07-08-2007 08:36 AM

Quick question how do I know when my tank cycle is over??

justinl 07-08-2007 04:23 PM

when ammonia and NO2 are zero and NO3 has reached a peak.

Redrover 07-08-2007 09:19 PM

The main thing is take your time,this is happens to all of us when we first start out...Cycle tank first 3 to 4 weeks, doesn't matter how old the rock is.
All new tanks will go through this

Mik_101 07-10-2007 02:13 AM

Updated water perimiters
 
Ok hear are the water parameters for today

Ammonia-0.25 ppm
pH-8.2
SG-8.3
No2-10ppm
No3-0 ppm
temp.-80 degrees Fahrenheit

Renegade 07-18-2007 08:29 AM

seriously man its your money but SLOW DOWN this hobby does not happen over nigh and before you know it you'll be quiting b/c you've spent all this money and every things DIES. do some more reading, i don't mean to be mean but when it says something in a book or on a reliable web page take there word for it they have been doing this alot longer then you, (and me) just b/c your parameters are measuring ok (which there not) does not mean its ok to fill your tank up in a week. IMO and the opinion of others on this board a new tank isn't stable untill after at least 6 month. GO SLOW. Don't Impulse buy READ< READ, READ.

People might get less frustrated with you if you listened to the advice they are offering you and didn't just brush it off. If your not willing to take advice then don't ask.

Mik_101 07-18-2007 03:24 PM

Yes I took thire advice and dident buy anything im goin to wait for about another 2-3 weeks.

Is it ok to add more liverock though.

michika 07-18-2007 04:07 PM

If you do, be prepared, you may have another mini cycle, and have to wait longer to start adding to your system. Even though you may have to wait longer in the end, now would be a better time to add rock then later.

Mik_101 07-18-2007 06:09 PM

Ok I'm getting another 40/50 LBS of live rock from overwhelmed.

Mik_101 07-19-2007 05:59 AM

Hear is the LR i piked up to overwhlmed.

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture066.jpg

Already in my tank and aqua scaped.

Mik_101 07-19-2007 06:36 AM

Water Parlaments
 
Amonnia-0.25
PH-8.4
No2-0
No3-5.0
Calsium-480(i think it might be to high eh)

Mik_101 07-19-2007 07:05 AM

I dont know why Photobucket is not working for me. It says this page can not be accsesed pleas tell me if you can get on ther.

goby1 07-19-2007 02:12 PM

Hey, we have the same tank!

I set mine up in Sep/04 and have had good luck with it. With a young family and full time work, I've kept it fairly low maintenance which probably has a lot to do with success in this hobby (maintenance that is). Keep a diary of everything, it'll come in handy when you need to look back.

I started with FOWLR (50lbs), a Remora skimmer and PC lighting. Over the last 2 years I have dabbled a bit and added a sebae anenome for the clown, some frogspan and star polyps a friend gave me and some pulsing zenia. There's also a rose tipped BTA that hitch hiked on and has grown from tiny to about 3 inches across.

I was interested in the comment about the sea star. I added a white sand shifting sea star after about 3 months of setting up the tank and have had zero issues with it. It does a fantastic job of keeping the sand clean. My sand pretty much looks like the day I put it in there. But then, that's pretty much how this hobby goes, one person has one experience and someone else has another. That's not to say not to learn from others' mistakes - that can help you to save a lot of money and headaches.

Take your time and have fun with it.

Mik_101 07-19-2007 02:51 PM

Hey nice tank man. You should add some LPS and softies. It would like better not saing it looks bad. Heck you have a better LR arangment thatn me.

michika 07-19-2007 02:55 PM

Mik,

The new rock in the tank looks great! Just keep tracking your parameters, and you should be good to go soon.

How are your two hitchhiker corals doing?

Mik_101 07-19-2007 03:58 PM

Hey Michica Heck their prospering very well and I got a bunch of new ones on the Rock got. I got atleast 3 diffrent mushrooms and a HUGE montipora as well as the #1 pest Apatasia. apatasia anemones are separate from the other rock until I get apatite control. Which one is the best?

michika 07-19-2007 04:09 PM

I'm not sure what your asking...sorry

Mik_101 07-19-2007 04:27 PM

I was asking witch apatsia killer works the best.

michika 07-19-2007 04:30 PM

I've tried Peppermint shrimp, and I have a Copperband butterfly, all by the way were duds when it came to aptasia.

I used a syringe with lemon juice and that was quite effective, although the trick is to get it right into the stalk. You also have to be careful about not injecting too much lemon juice into the system.

Mik_101 07-19-2007 04:35 PM

When injecting the lemon juice how much should you use like 0.5 mL?

michika 07-19-2007 05:31 PM

I just try to be stingy in its use. 0.5mL is probably fine!

Mik_101 07-19-2007 06:24 PM

I shot 1 apatisia with lime juice not sure if it worked.

Zoaelite 07-19-2007 07:14 PM

Difficulty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 261135)
I shot 1 apatisia with lime juice not sure if it worked.

Just gota be difficult and use Lime juice instead of Lemon dont ya :lol:.
Nice tank system though, I just started up a 28G JBJ cube so I know what your dealing with. If I can give you a tip though, the biggest thing in this Hobby is to consider what is sutable for your tank and which decisions will stress out your fish the least. Saying that A Naso or any sort of tang in a 46 jus wont work :(. Small or not its a living animal and trapping it in an enclosure that can threaten its life in unresponsible as a reef keeper.
Levi

michika 07-19-2007 08:17 PM

Assuming your not color blind, you'll see the aptasia turn purple within a little while, say 30 minutes of injection.

This is what usually happens when I did it:
1) Aptasia is out and mocking me.
2) I sneak up on it and jab quickly so I can get the needle tip into the stalk before the aptasia retracts.
3) I pump it full of a bit of lemon juice.
4) I wait and watch, if I failed the aptasia will come back out, its usual color, still mocking me. If I was lucky they usually turn a purplish color, are swollen looking, and then they start to shrivel and disintegrate.

Mik_101 07-20-2007 10:49 PM

OK it has been a month of cyceling in a few days( about 4) and I am going to wait 1 more week befor getting a fire goby what wher the experinces you have had with a fire goby fo I need to add a glass top onto my tank to orvent him from jumping out.

Jason McK 07-20-2007 11:35 PM

Hey Mik the Rock work looks great. Lots of good holes and caves.

It really isn't a time thing with cycling the tank. it a chemistry thing. Since you've added more rock your cycle will have started again. All be it smaller as it came from an established tank.
first you MUST wait until your ammonia is zero and your Nitrites are also ZERO. Then you can perform a water change to bring your Nitrates down. some time after this you will begin to get really bad brown algae outbreak and every attempt to get rid of it will fail. This Brown algae cycle takes between 2 weeks and a lot longer. During this you can get a clean up crew and fish but you need to go slow. One day when your just about to end it all because of the brown algae you will wake up look at the tank and it will have disappeared.
That is truly when your tank is "Cycled"

J

Mik_101 07-21-2007 07:05 PM

New water parlaments
 
Hear are the water parlaments for today

Ca=465ppm(to high for my likeing)
SG=1.023
Ammonia+0.25
No2=0
No3=0
pH=8.6

Mik_101 07-21-2007 07:37 PM

Some pics
 
Ok hear are some pictures of my corals and 1 fish.
My clownfish (i have 2)
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture076.jpg
some mushrooms
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture075.jpg
new and final aquascape
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture074.jpg
monti
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture073.jpg
acropora
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture072.jpg
hirey mushrooms
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture070.jpg
another monti
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture069.jpg

Mik_101 07-21-2007 07:43 PM

Sorrey about the bad pictures.

michika 07-21-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 261505)
Hear are the water parlaments for today

Ca=465ppm(to high for my likeing)
SG=1.023
Ammonia+0.25
No2=0
No3=0
pH=8.6

Your Calcium is okay, its of no danger to your system for it to be a bit high. Don't worry about it. :biggrin: You still probably want to raise your SG to around 1.024-1.026. Your cycle may be restarting because of your new rock, or it could be ending keep testing, but you can definitely see a change. I think your pH is a bit on the high side as well. You may want to try a water change to combat that.

Do you have an alkalinity test?

Some of your SPS look like they are receeding, or experiencing RTN (rapid tissue necrosis). Have you seen changes in them over time, or have they always been like that?

Mik_101 07-21-2007 09:22 PM

They have beem like that scince i got them one has grew.

michika 07-21-2007 09:27 PM

Well hopefully they will reclaim their abandon skeletons and you'll start to see some new colors and growth develop!

Mik_101 07-21-2007 09:31 PM

Do you think my lights are strong enough. The corals are about 9-10 inches in the water and im planing to have all sps on the topand just before the middle and then softies and LPS.

Mik_101 08-03-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 261538)
Well hopefully they will reclaim their abandon skeletons and you'll start to see some new colors and growth develop!

The coral reclaiming it's abandoned skin and is getting a florescent green color I will post some pictures as soon as I get new batteries in my camera.
I got a new acropora from OA(ocean aquatics) its quite nice and starting to color up at the base and the tips. The tip are blue and the base of the coral is florescent green. The middle par is getting a green tip. I am hoping that the whole coral will color up. BTW it is a frag.

My water parliaments are as follows.
Temp. 80 degrees Fahrenheit
SG. 1.024
pH. 8.4
Mg. 1026(on the raise got to take it in to get it re tested)
Ca. 425
Dkh. 10.6
No2. 0
No3. 0
Ammonia. 0

I am getting some more flow into my tank when I buy the tunze nano stream 6055(I believe) and later on a Koralia 4 power head witch will bring my flow up to about 2000 gph. ( will this be to much flow for my 46?)

Mik_101 08-03-2007 11:40 PM

Few picture. I will post pictures when I get new live stock or corals.

Tiny naso-will be relocated to a 200 g.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture077.jpg

Royal Gramma
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture080.jpg

New acro.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture082.jpg


Sorry about the quality of the pictures.

Mik_101 08-04-2007 10:08 PM

New digitata an other coral that I received from my friend(I almost lost this coral during shipping). I LIKE IT ALLOT! and some DIY stuff.

New coral that I have no idea what it is but almost lost it during the 1 hour ride home.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture086.jpg

(next 2 pictures) my new digitata
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture087.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture088.jpg

DIY coral grow out center.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture089.jpg

DIY tank cover.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture091.jpg

Mik_101 08-19-2007 08:15 PM

Just some pics
 
full tank shot
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture125.jpg

New bali green slimer
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture126.jpg

Sebae again 08-19-2007 09:32 PM

Nice rock work.

michika 08-20-2007 12:58 AM

Looks like its coming along well.

You may want to try looking to see if your camera has a macro option (looks like a little flower). It will allow you to take better photos of your corals, and when you want to look back to compare growth it will make a huge difference.


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