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The Grizz 12-11-2011 06:30 AM

Gee thanks. :razz:

Delphinus 12-11-2011 07:26 AM

Well I feel really bad, torn and conflicted myself. I used to think of Jayson as a great mentor and friend in my early days in this hobby. Much I want to say here but will limit what I will say because of the public nature of forums.

I wish Jayson all the best luck going forward ... it sounds like he will need it. :(

Publicity like this is a huge black eye to the hobby. Never mind eventually destroy it ... the damage is well underway and there are times I fear the writing is on the wall. The next ten years will be nothing like the previous ten years. Realistically this is only one nail in the coffin, there is so much more at play as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jtbadco (Post 659608)
Hey Gang,...get this. One of our LFS owners (SWC) has been convicted of illegal smuggling of corals, inverts, and LR.


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...135339543.html

This person is unfortunately one of the sponsors of our local forum and we are trying to have him removed.

We tried posting our opinions on our local forum but as usual the monkeys that run it shut down any conversation that isn't about kittens and sunshine. One of the other members there actually had the nerve to say that we shouldn't pass judgement because everyone breaks the law a little?!? As if going 5 miles over the speed limit compares to raping the environment. I would never say that I am a perfect law abiding citizen, but if I get caught speeding, I pay the ticket.

As far as I'm concerned they should throw the book at him. Maybe a $1M fine and a couple years in jail will teach him a lesson. If we tolerate operators like him it will eventually destroy the hobby.


wickedfrags 12-11-2011 02:13 PM

considering how easy it is to get CITES permits, had to believe it is worth the risk...greedy

MarkoD 12-11-2011 02:19 PM

Now I know why he was so grumpy when I contacted him in regards to having something covered under warranty. He gave me the worst customer service I've ever experienced and didn't help me at all.

fishoholic 12-11-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 659685)
Now I know why he was so grumpy when I contacted him in regards to having something covered under warranty. He gave me the worst customer service I've ever experienced and didn't help me at all.

I know what you mean. I had pump issues and he was being very vague and unhelpful which surprised me because a couple of years ago he gave great customer service. However I now understand why.

lastlight 12-11-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedfrags.com (Post 659682)
considering how easy it is to get CITES permits, had to believe it is worth the risk...greedy

I think he was trying to bypass the much more involved CITIES permit :neutral:

BlueTang<3 12-11-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 659688)
I think he was trying to bypass the much more involved CITIES permit :neutral:

Probably more like trying to avoid the cost of the cities.

Myka 12-11-2011 03:00 PM

I had no idea that this was still ongoing. I knew about it in 2007 when he was charged, but never heard anything afterwards so I actually thought the charges were dropped. I can't believe it took so long to get a conviction.

Grizz...I'm also glaring at my two SWC skimmers now. Too bad I can't afford to replace them right now or I would smash them. :twised: If anyone wants to donate to replace my SWC 180 cone I will happily smash it. Maybe Mike could help me get an AK to shoot it with! Oh, or maybe a bazooka! BOY would that be fun!

Leah 12-11-2011 03:12 PM

Okay he did what he did. But if he was selling the stuff for a bit cheaper, I wonder how many of us would have bought it and happily put it in our tanks.

mark 12-11-2011 03:14 PM

I can understand being offended with what he's done, smashing anything with SWC on the side a bit much.


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