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jason604 04-20-2013 07:11 AM

Possible zoa poisoning
 
So yesterday I bought a couple zoas. I did do some research on them prior to purchasing and read that they contain palytoxins which is apparently the most poisonous natural substance known to man! Anyways I took extra precaution when I tramsfered them to my tank. Wearing gloves when I was moving them, but I think I must have accidentally touched the tubing end in which I sucked in to siphon water to acclimate them. I then felt a bit dizzy about a few minutes later but didn't really think anything of it. After I finish putting them in my tank my heart slightly started to race then followed by hard time breathing. I then googled and found out these were the signs of palytoxin poisoning which would soon lead to body paralysis and death. I think kind of freaked out and my heart started to pound more n had a much harder time breathing. I thought I was just scaring myself into thinking that I actually got poisoned and that it was just all in my head. I then just slept it off. Then today I felt odd and my left arm is all numb and aches even till now. I went to my doctor and he said I might have gotten slightly poisoned by ingesting the poison. He then told me If I were to ingest a higher amount I would only have had 90mins to get treated at the hospital ori would have died!!! Next time I'm not taking any chances with these things and will go to the hospital ASAP! Be careful with your zoas guys!!, don't take any risk and remember the most beautiful things in life can be the most deadly!

CoralMuncher 04-20-2013 07:26 AM

Good thing you're okay, close call! I would've freaked like crazy.
It's not touching them with the hand that's deadly. I used to handle them and touch the polyps all the time with bare hands when I didn't know any better. The important thing is to not touch your body or face afterwards. This lady was almost blind because she rubbed her eyes afterwards. Thanks for posting this. I'll be very careful about sucking on the end of a siphon now. Maybe wipe it beforehand?

ckmullin 04-20-2013 07:31 AM

http://i37.tinypic.com/3008w89.jpg

bring out the big boys!

mseepman 04-20-2013 05:03 PM

You should get yourself one of these too...great little device and pretty darn cheap.

http://innovative-marine.com/auqa-gadget/accu-drip.html

No more "sucking" for siphon to drip acclimate.

Scythanith 04-20-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckmullin (Post 813053)
http://i37.tinypic.com/3008w89.jpg

bring out the big boys!

Those are for going in DEEP!

Zoaelite 04-20-2013 05:49 PM

Would love to see a photo of the zoanthid in question.

11purewater 04-20-2013 07:22 PM

Me too!

jason604 04-20-2013 08:18 PM

I purchased 3-4 diff types of zoas that day

First is the water melon
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1169ea5c.jpg

A mix of fire n ice with some other zoas I forgot the name of
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...psd902deaa.jpg

And lastly the green dragon eye. They have been closed since I moved them to my tank so I cant really take a pic so I got this one from google img
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcbac79d.jpg

The zoas look ****ty in my pic cuz I'm using my iPhone and I had to turn off my blue light or it's very hard to see on camera

My arm is feeling a little bit better today but still a bit numb. Dam zoas! Lol

The Guy 04-20-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 813126)
Would love to see a photo of the zoanthid in question.

I don't think it matters what one it is, they all give off a toxin when there being handled. I learned the hard way as well when handling them. Also if you are fragging out of the tank wear glasses. I use powder free throw away gloves as well.:wink:

Zoaelite 04-21-2013 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clown lover (Post 813204)
I don't think it matters what one it is, they all give off a toxin when there being handled. I learned the hard way as well when handling them. Also if you are fragging out of the tank wear glasses. I use powder free throw away gloves as well.:wink:

Wrong, only certain species from the order contain the toxin.

I'm not down playing how toxic the toxin is simply my opinion that 90% of the accusations put onto the internet don't have a credible base of evidence.

Quote:

During this investigation, we found that many of the zoanthids commonly sold in the home aquarium trade are non-toxic or weakly-toxic, but a highly toxic variety of Palythoa (possibly P. heliodiscus or P. toxica) is indeed available
Found here.

Every single one of the corals you added was a zoa, very unlikely they contain the toxin.


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