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Etaloche 01-29-2016 12:10 AM

Day 2, water has completely cleared and finalized the installation of the lights

Been just sitting in front of my tank staring into it wishing I had some livestock to make it more interesting and exciting :lol:

I guess now's a good time to think about livestock as I wait a while for the cycle to finish

http://imgur.com/17tewF8.jpg

Myka 01-29-2016 12:13 AM

Looking pretty stellar Brian! :D

WarDog 01-29-2016 12:18 AM

That came together quick and looking awesome!

I've got some bubble algae you can have, free!

Myka 01-29-2016 12:20 AM

Also, your cycle won't take long with dry rock. If you want to speed it up, add Prodibio Start Up. I add this to all new tanks that are started with dry rock. Really seems to help establish the good bacteria (rather than bad). I just add one pack (I think it has 6 or 8 vials in it) as directed until it's gone. I know the instructions say to use it longer, but one pack sure helps. :)

Etaloche 01-29-2016 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 980394)
That came together quick and looking awesome!

I've got some bubble algae you can have, free!

How generous of you kind sir :twised:, sounds good! I think I've spent a good 2-3 hours staring into my empty tank so far, even a bit of bubble algae to add some movement would be an improvement hahahaha c'mon do something interesting! :boink:

Fishy! 01-29-2016 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 980398)
How generous of you kind sir :twised:, sounds good! I think I've spent a good 2-3 hours staring into my empty tank so far, even a bit of bubble algae to add some movement would be an improvement hahahaha c'mon do something interesting! :boink:

Looks good. Anyone remember when we used to cycle tanks with cheap fish like damsels?

SeaHorse_Fanatic 01-29-2016 12:31 AM

Looks awesome my friend. The aquascaping even looks very much like what we were able to setup in my living room, with lots of great caves and places for both corals and fish. Really like how your tank has come together.

Etaloche 01-29-2016 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 980396)
Also, your cycle won't take long with dry rock. If you want to speed it up, add Prodibio Start Up. I add this to all new tanks that are started with dry rock. Really seems to help establish the good bacteria (rather than bad). I just add one pack (I think it has 6 or 8 vials in it) as directed until it's gone. I know the instructions say to use it longer, but one pack sure helps. :)

I assume these are what you're referring to?

I actually picked up one of these and been planning to dose it daily starting tonight, are these similar products? If they aren't could I use both to help or should I just stick to one.

Etaloche 01-29-2016 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 980400)
Looks awesome my friend. The aquascaping even looks very much like what we were able to setup in my living room, with lots of great caves and places for both corals and fish. Really like how your tank has come together.

This build wouldn't have been possible without your help and I want to thank you once again!:D
Ya, they were some quality rocks and fit together very well. I'm very happy about the way the aquascape came out.
Text me when you're available so I can return some of your belongings

Myka 01-29-2016 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 980401)
I assume these are what you're referring to?

I actually picked up one of these and been planning to dose it daily starting tonight, are these similar products? If they aren't could I use both to help or should I just stick to one.

MB7 and Prodibio BioDigest are similar (How similar? We don't know because there are no ingredients listed haha). They are both bacteria products. Prodibio Start Up also has the Ammo Lock vials in it which neutralizes the ammonia and allows you to add livestock sooner. If there is an algae bloom before the cycle is over, this Ammo Lock comes in handy because you can add a CUC (clean up crew). That's really the only difference. You could essentially do the same with MB7 and some other ammonia detoxifier like Prime or Amquel.

Etaloche 01-29-2016 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 980409)
MB7 and Prodibio BioDigest are similar (How similar? We don't know because there are no ingredients listed haha). They are both bacteria products. Prodibio Start Up also has the Ammo Lock vials in it which neutralizes the ammonia and allows you to add livestock sooner. If there is an algae bloom before the cycle is over, this Ammo Lock comes in handy because you can add a CUC (clean up crew). That's really the only difference. You could essentially do the same with MB7 and some other ammonia detoxifier like Prime or Amquel.

Alright, I'll stick with the MB7 and see how things go. Next time I start up a tank I'll definitely try out the Prodibio products. Who knows, at the rate I was upgrading, another upgrade might not be too far off :razz:

Etaloche 02-28-2016 09:54 PM

Been so busy with midterms and have been too absorbed in my tank to post any updates recently. My tank has been up for a little over a month now so I think an update is due.

After cycling the tank for couple days I did some reading on prodibio due to Myka's recommendation and saw that they claimed you could add fish 12 hours after using their product so I gave it a go.
I waited about 2 days after adding prodibio and went ahead and got a firefish to help with the cycle.

http://imgur.com/VbsT10U.jpg

The firefish was very timid for the first couple days but now he's very active.
After I saw that the fish was happy and there was no spike in ammonia levels I went ahead and got a cleaner shrimp and couple snails as well.

http://imgur.com/LPRYg7m.jpg

The shrimp molted the same night I brought him in, was very cool to see.

http://imgur.com/EivTtur.jpg

Picked up my first coral while I was at J&L buying some supplies.
Thought I'd start with something easier and got some sunny D's.
There was some aptasia starting to grow on the rocks so I've actually had to frag it since this pic in order to break off the parts of the rock with the aptasia.

http://imgur.com/DPuHXjL.jpg

Next I paid a visit to fellow member Wheelman76's place to pick up some more corals.
His tank was super awesome and I picked up a tri-color acan and 3 different zoas: rasta, hornet, and wolverine I think

http://imgur.com/Af1b9xJ.jpg

http://imgur.com/UuLxSPl.jpg

http://imgur.com/otliTcT.jpg

http://imgur.com/PEfVZPq.jpg

Next I visited gregzz4's place and picked up some more corals, purple and green plating monti and some GSP.
Anthony lent me his spare ebay LEDs and gave me some chaeto and caulerpa to seed my fuge on the same day.
I didn't realize how much more powerful these LEDs were and accidentally started bleaching the montis.
I quickly moved the corals to the lowest parts of my tank and turned down the lights from 50 to 30% to acclimate them to the new lights and looks like the bleaching has stopped.
Still learning I guess :redface:

http://imgur.com/kiEmGca.jpg

http://imgur.com/0kxXGWW.jpg

http://imgur.com/H2IxBSD.jpg

http://imgur.com/JR8S1po.jpg

The purple monti is starting to show some signs of recovery but I fragged a small piece off and mounted it elsewhere in case the colony doesn't survive.
Couple days later I saw that the green monti finally had its polyps extended and even saw some new growth so it's doing much better now.

http://imgur.com/CWb7dFQ.jpg

The GSP didn't open up even after 3 days and was starting to get worried. I was told that these things are near impossible to kill though so I kept waiting.
Day 4 I saw a single polyp extend which gave me hope.
A little more the next day, and even more the next day after!
Now it's fully extended :biggrin:

http://imgur.com/SCGJ6nW.jpg

http://imgur.com/lt6I4BV.jpg

The GSP seems to be the goby's favorite place to hang out
http://imgur.com/h9ZDcUK.jpg

I also got a tiger pistol shrimp and a lawnmower goby.
Some of you might recall that the pistol shrimp and goby pair was how I first found out about this hobby and have always wanted to house them.
Couldn't be more excited to finally have a pair in my own tank!
The pistol shrimp actually made quite a mess and my water was cloudy for couple of days because of him. I even had thoughts about having to remove him from the tank but it's settled in now.
Took a couple days but the goby finally found the shrimp and they are now happily paired. Luckily they decided to house themselves right at the front of the tank so I get to watch them dig away all day long.

http://imgur.com/Dz8lAs3.jpg

Finally, I got a pair of Banggai Cardinals just couple days ago.
They seemed to get along for the first 2 days but I noticed last night that the big guy was chasing the small guy all over the tank and now the small guy just hides in the corner.
Looks like the luck of the draw left me with 2 males so one of them will have to go and I'll have to try my luck with another.

http://imgur.com/vJQVPmT.jpg

It's been an exciting month to say the least and lots to still learn :lol:
Water parameters are still holding up with 0 ammonia and starting to see traces of nitrates. Greg also recommended that I should start monitoring my alkalinity so I got a salifert test kit.
Alkalinity was starting to get a bit low around 7.2 so I did my first water change last night and now it's up around 8.5 and the corals seem to be a bit happier and opening up much more.

albert_dao 02-28-2016 11:46 PM

Heh, looking good man! Come out my way and I'll give you a couple cool frags :D

Etaloche 02-29-2016 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 984172)
Heh, looking good man! Come out my way and I'll give you a couple cool frags :D

Thanks! I will for sure pay a visit. I've been actually looking at couple frags you had, I'm especially interested in that rainbow acan you had for sale. If I placed it on the same rock the tri-color is on do you think they'd be ok? I've heard certain acans will grow beside each other while some will sting.

maron6977 02-29-2016 02:50 AM

Coming along nicely. Good job

WarDog 02-29-2016 04:58 AM

Awesome job Brian, nice to finally see some livestock in there. What's your water change schedule going to be?

Etaloche 02-29-2016 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 984211)
Awesome job Brian, nice to finally see some livestock in there. What's your water change schedule going to be?

There's something I haven't quite figured out yet. I remember you guys having a long discussion on it and how a lot of people have been waiting a bit longer between wc. Since it was my first wc i did 25% this time. I think I will be doing 10% every 3 weeks from now and keeping an eye on the parameters and adjust from there.

WarDog 02-29-2016 05:56 AM

Good idea. What test kits did you get? I ask because you'll be expecting your Alk, Mg and Cal to be dropping, when in reality, limited numbers of corals in a new tank use up very little of these elements.

Take your time and remember, bad things happen fast and good things happen slowly.

Etaloche 02-29-2016 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 984223)
Good idea. What test kits did you get? I ask because you'll be expecting your Alk, Mg and Cal to be dropping, when in reality, limited numbers of corals in a new tank use up very little of these elements.

Take your time and remember, bad things happen fast and good things happen slowly.

I have just API ammonia and nitrate kits and then Greg recommended I get a salifert alk kit so I have that. Low alk was the reason I actually did a bigger wc this time around. I will be most likely getting a dosing pump within the next 2 months and have been on the lookout for Hanna test kits to come up for sale for calc and mag. Having a big debate between calc reactor or dosing pump. I think for a smaller build like mine a dosing pump would suffice.

Going slow has been a bit challenging due to excitment but I'm managing in moderation so far! :razz:

Etaloche 03-04-2016 07:31 AM

So in an interesting turn of events my firefish, goby and pistol shrimp decided to all share the same burrow. The pistol shrimp was digging up more tunnels than I expected and I slowly watched as it kept digging and digging towards the hole the firefish had been living in. I have heard stories where the pistol shrimp was the culprit of killing firefish so I was very worried. To my surprise the next day I saw that firefish popping in and out of the holes that the pistol shrimp had made. I even saw all 3 of them pop out of the same hole at once. The firefish doesn't keep watch like the goby does but he does this funny thing of backing into the hole while wagging his tail as if it's trying to let the pistol shrimp know he's coming in. I know that the firefish is also referred to as a goby but has anyone else seen a relationship like this before?

http://imgur.com/PSOXlAT.jpg

The purple monti seems to be still recovering from the bleaching. I have heard of mixed stories of bleached corals making a recovery. I think I was lucky enough to have stopped the bleaching early enough for the monti to recover.
Here is the monti shortly after I started bleaching it by having the light too intense.
http://imgur.com/YdkIUlk.jpg

Here it is today, it seemed to have built up this thick purple goo over the bleached area kind of like a scab and as it falls off it revealed a recovered patch! Some polyps are starting show as well.
Also scored a small piece of what I think is a spongodes monti if my research is correct from a fellow reefer when a small piece broke off while he was grabbing me a frag.
http://imgur.com/Hprv2IV.jpg

Speaking of new frags, here are some of the new frags I have acquired.
I really need to work on taking some better photos but here are some crappy phone pics for now.
Green and blue zoa which I have no clue of its name but I found it nice and picked it up.
Also picked up a fighting conch to help with cleanup. I really love this guy, hilarious looking and cleans all day long.
http://imgur.com/T4rM7CS.jpg
Also got some fruit loop and pink/purple zoa but forgot to take pics.

Hammer and frogspawn frags. I really wanted to get a torch as well but read that they don't play as nice as the other euphyllias and decided to hold off until I had more experience.
http://imgur.com/GrapCM7.jpg

Albert invited me with the offer to give me some free frags to get me going and I ended up buying some frags as well.

Got a plate coral
http://imgur.com/GpdvvMy.jpg

A favia, got its sweeper tentacle out in this photo
http://imgur.com/O6fm9lT.jpg

I ended up buying a single head of this beautiful rainbow acan.
http://imgur.com/sZO7oGx.jpg

I must've damaged it a bit as I was getting it off the plug or it was already slightly damaged but it seems to be opting to split itself rather than heal the damaged area. Been interesting to watch the process. Not sure if the camera is able to pick it up.
http://imgur.com/l3J2CB9.jpg

Finally, I purchased a frag of pink lemonade and bonsai. I was told these are some of the easier SPS and the polyps came out nicely so I'm pretty stoked on them.
http://imgur.com/YpieLOp.jpg

Tyler and Albert were nice enough to hand off this old calcium reactor they had lying around. It needs some work so I'll be re-plumbing it to work for me.
http://imgur.com/RSS2atN.jpg

The housing for the original maxijet has broken off so I'll need to find a way to attach a new pump to it.
http://imgur.com/s7G2jbe.jpg

Skimmer Juice 03-04-2016 05:54 PM

I had a firefish for 7-8 years he started burrowing with my pistol shrimp , fire fish was in great health fed him at night , next day I get home and he was dying but had no signs of sickness he was really fat so I thing he might of got hit with the bubble the pistol shrimp makes . SO I would be careful but mine could of been something completely different but that's what I think happened .

Tank looks like its coming along nicely !

Etaloche 03-04-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skimmer Juice (Post 984716)
I had a firefish for 7-8 years he started burrowing with my pistol shrimp , fire fish was in great health fed him at night , next day I get home and he was dying but had no signs of sickness he was really fat so I thing he might of got hit with the bubble the pistol shrimp makes . SO I would be careful but mine could of been something completely different but that's what I think happened .

Tank looks like its coming along nicely !

Ah, sorry to hear about your loss. At this point the firefish is simply too quick to hide along with the shrimp so there would be no way to seperate them without taking the whole aquascape apart. Keeping my finger crossed and hoping for the best. Everytime I hear the shrimp snapping around in his burrow I get nervous for couple minutes only to see the firefish peek out a bit later and I can breath easily again Haha. Thanks!

Bblinks 03-04-2016 07:48 PM

That Albert is a good guy....and Tyler too.:mrgreen:

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-04-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 984732)
That Albert is a good guy....and Tyler too.:mrgreen:

Rumour has it they're one and the same.:surprise::surprise::surprise:




JK.

albert_dao 03-04-2016 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 984738)
Rumour has it they're one and the same.:surprise::surprise::surprise:




JK.

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I'm not a lanky redneck!

Etaloche 03-04-2016 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 984742)
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I'm not a lanky redneck!

Gratata :2gunfire:

The Guy 03-05-2016 04:42 PM

LOL!!! both good guys :rockon:

spit.fire 03-05-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 984742)
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I'm not a lanky redneck!

:cry:

Etaloche 03-10-2016 05:22 PM

Power just went out with an exam in an hour. Don't think I've been this stressed in a while.

albert_dao 03-10-2016 06:38 PM

Should be fine for a few hours bro. You can manually aerate the tank with a whisk if you are worried.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-10-2016 07:26 PM

Fortunately his power went back on already.

Etaloche 03-10-2016 07:45 PM

Yup luckily it came back on right before either had to leave for exam. Going to JL to buy a battery powered air pump after class in case it happens again since the storm in N Van is still pretty intense.

albert_dao 03-10-2016 10:14 PM

if you have a DC powerhead, just grab a batter backup from a computer store man. Worth the price of admission.

Etaloche 03-11-2016 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 985376)
if you have a DC powerhead, just grab a batter backup from a computer store man. Worth the price of admission.

Gah I wanna upgrade to DC powerheads and battery backup but initial cost to get both is pretty significant. I think my wave box is DC. Been wanting to upgrade powerheads but maybe battery backup should come first after this experience.

mrhasan 03-11-2016 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 985392)
Gah I wanna upgrade to DC powerheads and battery backup but initial cost to get both is pretty significant. I think my wave box is DC. Been wanting to upgrade powerheads but maybe battery backup should come first after this experience.

Jebao with battery backup is pretty cheap compared. You can get a battery backup for $150 and grab the required size/amount of RW pumps.

Etaloche 03-11-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 985408)
Jebao with battery backup is pretty cheap compared. You can get a battery backup for $150 and grab the required size/amount of RW pumps.

I've been looking to get a pair of RW-8 actually! Just need to save up for a bit to afford them + battery. I still want to upgrade lights, skimmer, and get some reactors hooked up. Gah, lots of saving up to do.

mrhasan 03-11-2016 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 985448)
I've been looking to get a pair of RW-8 actually! Just need to save up for a bit to afford them + battery. I still want to upgrade lights, skimmer, and get some reactors hooked up. Gah, lots of saving up to do.

Been there done that when I was in grad school. I used to skip meals to buy stuffs for tanks :razz:

Coasting 03-11-2016 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 985448)
I've been looking to get a pair of RW-8 actually! Just need to save up for a bit to afford them + battery. I still want to upgrade lights, skimmer, and get some reactors hooked up. Gah, lots of saving up to do.

Theres always room to budget ;) if you can handle waiting the rws can be ordered directly from china for much less then anyone in canada sells them for. I just picked up 2 and the new generation jebao 12000 from overseas.

The Guy 03-12-2016 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 985358)
Yup luckily it came back on right before either had to leave for exam. Going to JL to buy a battery powered air pump after class in case it happens again since the storm in N Van is still pretty intense.

They work pretty good and supply lots of aeration, that's all I use and wrap the tank with a heavy quilt or sleeping bag and leave the lights off. while I'm away from home.
When home I run my genset if necessary depending on how long the power is off, 12 hours this time.
Battery powered air pump $15 and change so I have two on hand.

Etaloche 03-12-2016 06:15 PM

This was the package I was looking at so that I can run both pumps off a single controller as I'm running out of electrical outlets very fast now.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/222033417765?...24efcb3ce&cp=1


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