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sewerman45 07-08-2014 07:15 PM

Need advice for lighting 24" x 24" x 22" cube
 
I am trying to figure out what would be the best lighting option for a 24" x 24" x 22" cube tank. I would ideally like to go the LED route and do not want to be limited at all by the light I choose.

Some of the options I am considering:
Radion XR30w G3 PRO
AI Hydra FiftyTwo

Any input would be great. Thank you.

Proteus 07-08-2014 07:40 PM

250w halide would give you all the punch you need

sewerman45 07-08-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 905293)
250w halide would give you all the punch you need

I have given that a lot of thought. I don't like the idea of the heat of a halide. My place isn't super cool and I don't want to have to run a chiller ideally.

I don't have any experience with halides though. Maybe one would be the best option.

duncangweller 07-08-2014 08:20 PM

I have a single hydra 52 over my 30x30 cube and I think its great. Although I do prefer t5 I think.

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canadianbudz604 07-08-2014 08:23 PM

Light
 
Get a kessil a360we nice clean look lots and lots of light.

Aquattro 07-08-2014 08:51 PM

Everyone knows I love MH, but a tank that size will heat up quickly. Almost certainly requiring a chiller. Probably not the best choice for that setup.
If I were lighting a cube that size, I agree with the Kessil suggestions. I really like the color and lack of color separation with these.

Asmoa 07-08-2014 08:58 PM

I have the same size tank, I'm using a Kessil a360w. Love it.

Wheelman76 07-08-2014 09:04 PM

24" ATI hybrid Powermodule , go big or go home lol

Proteus 07-08-2014 09:08 PM

My tank is 24+24+12. I have a halide and have yet to see fans come on to cool it. Though my tank in the basement. It was plus 29c here a few days ago and tank was 80.2

sewerman45 07-08-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadianbudz604 (Post 905302)
Get a kessil a360we nice clean look lots and lots of light.

Hmmm.... I hadn't considered a kessil. Would this be enough for SPS in a 22" deep tank? I don't have any hands on experience with these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 905309)
24" ATI hybrid Powermodule , go big or go home lol

Wow those are really cool and amazingly expensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncangweller (Post 905299)
I have a single hydra 52 over my 30x30 cube and I think its great. Although I do prefer t5 I think.

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Why do you prefer T5? Everything I've looked into says that I would need a ton of T5's to light a deep tank.

canadianbudz604 07-08-2014 11:33 PM

Kessil
 
Oh the kessil is tons of light for sps

spit.fire 07-09-2014 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadianbudz604 (Post 905319)
Oh the kessil is tons of light for sps


Agreed, they have a lot of penetrating power


Also the 2' maxspect would work well, had one on my 2' cube and the corals did great

apexifd 07-09-2014 05:32 AM

single Mitras 6200HV

Proteus 07-09-2014 02:35 PM

K i lied yesterday the fans came on at 80.9f lol

Reef Supplies 07-09-2014 02:39 PM

I agree with Aquattro, MH on a tank that size would most deff. cause heat issues.

You don't need to go pro (Radion Pro or Hydra 52) with only 20" deep. The "regular" Radion G3, Hydra or Kessil 360 would more than suffice.

Ray

Proteus 07-09-2014 03:16 PM

Coverage Area
A360N: 18" surface diameter by 4' to 5' penetration
(on average)
A360W: 24" surface diameter by 3' penetration

If you should go with kessil go with the a360w

gqlmao 07-09-2014 04:25 PM

I think if you want SPS, you can't go wrong with a power module or even a dimmable sun power. 8 bulbs will be great for your set up. I run leds on my LPS and zoas and will only even run leds for LPS. I run T-5s for SPS and the only thing I would replace my T-5s with is MH, even then I would supplement with T-5s. I like the warm glow and how well the T-5s cover everything uniformly.

sewerman45 07-09-2014 09:41 PM

Wow. There is a lot of info here. I think I'm more torn than ever. I really just want what is going to be best. I think I'll have to keep doing research before I make a decision.

Proteus 07-09-2014 09:54 PM

I believe dv from Madjelly runs all three lol

freezetyle 07-09-2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef Supplies (Post 905400)
I agree with Aquattro, MH on a tank that size would most deff. cause heat issues.

You don't need to go pro (Radion Pro or Hydra 52) with only 20" deep. The "regular" Radion G3, Hydra or Kessil 360 would more than suffice.

Ray

all depends on where your tank is. I have a 250w pendant on a 24*24*20 cube, and my tank stays between 77-80, even during the hottest days. but it is in a cooler basement.

Kessils are great for the uniformity as other have mentioned. you just need to think if the "minimal" controllability is an issue for you.

xenon 07-09-2014 11:01 PM

I am surprised nobody is asking what types of corals the OP is planning to keep.

Once the coral type is determined, we can then begin to recommend some lightning options.

Most of the LED's will work no matter what type of coral is being kept because the lighting intensity can be dialled back.

With that said, if he plans to keep SPS, I would shy away from LED's if maximum coloration is the goal. I don't know why but LED's are just not there yet if you want world class coloration. MH or T5 is usually a better choice.

Proteus 07-09-2014 11:24 PM

He stated that does not want to be limited with the lights he chooses so I assumed mix reef including sps

sewerman45 07-09-2014 11:28 PM

I am planning on focusing mostly on SPS so I definitely need a light that is more than capable.

xenon 07-09-2014 11:32 PM

We planning to build a shallow cube (24x24x18) as a display tank in our showroom.

I purchased a 24" Giesemann Spectra 400w SE that also includes 4x24" T5.

I will run a 400w 20K Radium MH and ATI Blue Plus T5 for actinic.

Best of both words. :mrgreen:

Aquattro 07-09-2014 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenon (Post 905454)
We planning to build a shallow cube (24x24x18) as a display tank in our showroom.

I purchased a 24" Giesemann Spectra 400w SE that also includes 4x24" T5.

I will run a 400w 20K Radium MH and ATI Blue Plus T5 for actinic.

Best of both words. :mrgreen:

That's my combo. But I run 2 x Radium :)

xenon 07-10-2014 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 905455)
That's my combo. But I run 2 x Radium :)

You have great taste. :lol:

Aquattro 07-10-2014 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenon (Post 905458)
You have great taste. :lol:

Just hope I'm not being greedy with 2 bulbs! It's a lot of light!

Ron99 07-10-2014 03:16 AM

I've seen a bunch of Kessil tanks and you can't go wrong with them. I haven't really seen any other commercial LED fixtures that do it for me for various reasons. It's why I built my own a few years back :)


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