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Madreefer 11-24-2015 05:42 AM

Herbie Questions
 
So I was under the impression that once you set your Herbie drains up there is no need to touch it. I'm constantly adjusting mine and it's quite frustrating. This setup has been up for 2 years and I've had to adjust from day one. Sump is in the basement and return pump is a Reeflo Barracuda which I have dialled back. Returns are 1" and the 2 drains and 2 emergency drains are both 1 1/2".
I don't have the drains submerged in the sump water. I've tried them submerged and above the waterline in the sump and it doesn't seem to matter as I still have to watch the level in my overflow in my tank. It either rises or drops in the overflow? Any ideas on what the issue could be? I have to adjust weekly.

WarDog 11-24-2015 06:09 AM

Weird, I haven't needed to adjust in 11 months. Are you using a gate valve?

Wheelman76 11-24-2015 06:13 AM

It seems to work best with the drain line (with the gate valve)to be submerged under the water , the emergency line doesn't matter if it's underneath or not. The key for me so I'm not having to adjust it , is to always have a trickle running down the emergency all the times.

Wheelman76 11-24-2015 06:15 AM

Also are you running 4 drains? 2 with a full syphon and two emergency drains?

duncangweller 11-24-2015 06:35 AM

I had the same problem. I don't have an ATO and when my water level drops in the return chamber of my sump it is reflected in the overflow in the tank.

If I'm vigilant with ensuring my water level in my sump chamber is consistent then I don't have the problem.

Wheelman76 11-24-2015 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncangweller (Post 970943)
I had the same problem. I don't have an ATO and when my water level drops in the return chamber of my sump it is reflected in the overflow in the tank.

If I'm vigilant with ensuring my water level in my sump chamber is consistent then I don't have the problem.


That's a good point as well , an ATO is a must with a herbie.

Madreefer 11-24-2015 11:17 AM

Yep I have good quality gate valves and a ATO so my water level in my sump does not fluctuate.
My 2 syphon drains in the overflow are cut approximetly 6" below the 2 emergency drains and I like to keep the water in the overflow 3-4" above those. So no there is no trickle of water in the emergency drains (don't like the sound and don't trust it as i've had the tank overflow when I was not home so I had a really pi$$ed off wife)
Is there a chance it could be a problem with my return pump?
I've also just recently started using a filter sock again and I have noticed that as the sock gets dirty and does'nt allow water to flow out of it as fast it also has an influence on water in the overflow of tank.

Madreefer 11-24-2015 11:31 PM

bump???

Myka 11-24-2015 11:54 PM

I've found the best way to do it, considering your 4 drains is to have the gated drains cut low (like you have), then have the two emergency lines cut one 1" taller than the other. Put a 45 degree elbow on the top of the shorter one (make sure it's 1" shorter including the 45) and have a trickle going down the shorter one. The 45 keeps it much quieter and you're able to get a smaller trickle. I still end up adjusting mine every once in awhile, but not often.

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Madreefer 11-25-2015 12:20 AM

Yea I don't think that's not gonna work for me. The emergency drains are glued in and I won't be able to cut them down. Do you think not having a trickle in to the emergency drains may be the issue? I have tried it both ways and still have to adjust on a regular basis


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