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DKoKoMan 02-14-2019 04:34 AM

What Heaters are You Running?
 
I am just wondering what people are using for heaters these days with all the new technology out there. It seems the heaters are one of the pieces of equipment which we all depend on but really seem to have fallen behind.

I am currently running titanium heaters for a year and recently had one fail. Luckily it didn’t stick on, rather the controller displayed heating but the titanium rod itself was cold to touch. I have also used eheim Jager heaters, other then the length they seemed to be fine. I’m just looking for feedback on if it’s really worth paying double the price for titanium heaters or just use redundancy on cheaper heaters. In my case if the titanium heaters aren’t going to last it may be worth replacing the eheim or similar heaters which are considerably less money

Frogger 02-14-2019 05:13 AM

As I have had a heater fail and somewhat fry my tank I now run multiple smaller heaters on a separate controller to avoid that problem again. Both the controller and heater thermostat would have to fail. With smaller 100 watt heaters one broken heater shouldn't be able to increase the temperature too quick in the tank.

From what I have heard is you should replace heaters once every couple years. I primarily use 100 watt eheim jager heaters and by a bunch of them when they go on sale on Boxing day.

H2o2 02-14-2019 05:18 AM

Heaters
 
I went to titanium even though they are more money and occasionally they fail but I have had 2-Pro 250 W bust open and take out almost all of my corals. It could have been a power spike but the titanium 1 I had was fine , so even if they fail they don’t crack open I hope and put what ever that stuff is into my tank.
They all make me nervous a bit like you said

DKoKoMan 02-14-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogger (Post 1034264)
As I have had a heater fail and somewhat fry my tank I now run multiple smaller heaters on a separate controller to avoid that problem again. Both the controller and heater thermostat would have to fail. With smaller 100 watt heaters one broken heater shouldn't be able to increase the temperature too quick in the tank.

From what I have heard is you should replace heaters once every couple years. I primarily use 100 watt eheim jager heaters and by a bunch of them when they go on sale on Boxing day.

I was leaning toward this idea, I have a 300g so I was thinking of buying maybe the 200w or 250w but a bunch of them with a separate controller. I just look at the price being more then 2x for titanium...ugh.

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Originally Posted by H2o2 (Post 1034265)
I went to titanium even though they are more money and occasionally they fail but I have had 2-Pro 250 W bust open and take out almost all of my corals. It could have been a power spike but the titanium 1 I had was fine , so even if they fail they don’t crack open I hope and put what ever that stuff is into my tank.
They all make me nervous a bit like you said

I agree that the titanium tube itself will stand the test of time, however is it worth the money when they will all fail? I guess maybe I have been lucky but I have never had a glass eheim Jager break on me.

FishyFishy! 02-14-2019 04:01 PM

I have 2 X Finnex 500W Titanium heaters, with electronic temp control & Guard. For $56 each, you can't go wrong for the price. Although I have usually used them with apex control, I have also used the 150W version on my nano with just their electronic control, and it stays pretty consistent. I have been running all of these on all my systems now for about 3 years and all of them still work well.

I heard that the Cobalt Neo-Therms are very reliable, however at their price point, you could buy 3-4 of the titaniums for that price.

I really think that the Titanium run by an aquarium controller is the way to go.

Ace Storman 02-14-2019 04:56 PM

I have 1 Finnex 500W Titanium heater, with electronic temp control head. I use it as a complete standalone setup, but plug the head into my apex power bar. I set the outlet so that it will turn off should the water temp rise above 2 degrees. Just a bit of a safety feature.

Frogger 02-14-2019 06:38 PM

I have a Finnex controller and it runs 6 degrees off right out of the box. It is great at controlling the temperature steady but don't trust the reading. I currently have it set at 84 degrees. I keep all my tanks at 78. I use a Vee Gee digital thermometer to check the precise temperature in all my tanks twice a week. I have done this after I had false readings from glass thermometers and fried a bunch of acropora and killed some fish (lack of O2).

FishyFishy! 02-14-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogger (Post 1034281)
I have a Finnex controller and it runs 6 degrees off right out of the box. It is great at controlling the temperature steady but don't trust the reading. I currently have it set at 84 degrees. I keep all my tanks at 78. I use a Vee Gee digital thermometer to check the precise temperature in all my tanks twice a week. I have done this after I had false readings from glass thermometers and fried a bunch of acropora and killed some fish (lack of O2).

This is why you can never really trust anything out of the box to be honest. I will always go with the titanium element with an external control source.

BRS Investigates actually just had a great video about this. They investigated a bunch of different options. Their best option was the Aquacontroller with a titanium element. You should check it out, it was a good watch.

gmann 02-14-2019 07:36 PM

was running 2 x 500 W heaters on a DA controller on big tank

now running aqueon preset heater on frag tank with thermometer for reference check

babnika 02-15-2019 02:15 AM

4x300w eheim controlled by apex. old school but I haven't found anything better

DKoKoMan 02-16-2019 12:43 PM

Maybe the Aquatop one I had just happened to blow out early. Sounds like titanium heaters is the preferred method. I may have to look in to the Finnex if my other Aquatop goes as I don’t want to replace these every year. I will say these stay pretty consistent but I’m doubting the longevity.

gregzz4 02-28-2019 04:39 AM

I have 3 Eheim Jager heaters in my sump which are 7 years old. They are 200watts each and I just finished cleaning and testing them. They test just fine.
I bought them new and they have never been submerged past the minimum/maximun line.
I tested them tonight and all are working just fine.

Key to keeping them new is to never submerge them past the min/max line on the head.

I keep my heaters vertical in my sump

https://i749.photobucket.com/albums/...pszikqnwm7.jpg

Frogger 02-28-2019 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 1034712)
Key to keeping them new is to never submerge them past the min/max line on the head.

I keep my heaters vertical in my sump

Did you build that heater holder?

gregzz4 02-28-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogger (Post 1034718)
Did you build that heater holder?

Yes I did
Contact me Glen if you are interested in one

H2o2 02-28-2019 05:41 AM

I have seen Greg’s system and if you need to know how things should be set up u should see his

DKoKoMan 02-28-2019 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 1034719)
Yes I did
Contact me Glen if you are interested in one


Definitely like the heater holder! I would have to measure my current running water level in my sump. Those larger wattage eheims tend to be really long, especially if they will be mounted vertically.

straightrazorguy 02-28-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by babnika (Post 1034294)
4x300w eheim controlled by apex. old school but I haven't found anything better

+ 1 here. I don't use 4 of them, but I use 3 Eheims controlled by Apex as well.

mseepman 02-28-2019 04:40 PM

I've been running the same Ebo 300w pair for 6 years. I have 2 backups still in the box and one that is stuck on that I'm not sure why I've kept other than to throw into my water change station every now and then if I'm in a hurry to get new water ready. I have a 100g salt storage barrel and a 100g fresh barrel so it comes in handy every now and then.
The EBO's have been really good.

neeper 02-28-2019 05:38 PM

I've been running two 200watt Aqua Medic Titanium Heaters for a long time now. I programmed one to kick on 0.1 degree before the other to reduce the on/off cycles of one heater.

I've heard stories of heaters failing and many people replace them annually before they fail. Mine have been working like champs for about 5 years now, I do have two spares ready for replacement when they do fail... touch wood! :lol!:


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