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IADEM 04-03-2007 05:46 PM

Phosphate removers for sale
 
Not all phosphate removers are the same. Be aware that though phosphate removers reduce phosphate content, many do not bring phosphate levels down low enough to have a visible effect on the substrate dependent matter. Also, inferior methods of phosphate removal (such as liquids) have a slower response time or do not remove phosphates- they simply change it into a slightly less toxic form. Fritz Phosphate Remover utilizes hi-tech processing to create a unique, superior alumina sponge which rapidly reduces phosphates to nearly zero. Phosphate levels are drastically cut in hours! Many other brands will only reduce the phosphate level down to just over 2 ppm, and most methods take several days to take any effect. Fritz Phosphate Remover also eliminates silicates in the water, and therefore has a larger effect on the growth in the tank. Completely harmless to all reef invertebrates, fish, wildlife and plants, Fritz Phosphate Remover is the premiere method for rapidly and permanently eliminating phosphates- at bargain pricing. Never hassle with RO again! No need to "scrub down" the system! It's the low-maintenance solution for a beautiful aquarium, reef or pond.
Please contact us for pricing information, local pick up or delivery available in Edmonton. We ship anywhere in Canada and worldwide.

andresont 04-03-2007 07:16 PM

[quote=IADEM;244440] Fritz Phosphate Remover is the premiere method for rapidly and permanently eliminating phosphates- at bargain pricing. Never hassle with RO again! QUOTE]

What scares me is word "Rapidly" and this is why it is Not good for reef tanks !

IADEM 04-03-2007 09:43 PM

[quote=andresont;244461]
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Originally Posted by IADEM (Post 244440)
Fritz Phosphate Remover is the premiere method for rapidly and permanently eliminating phosphates- at bargain pricing. Never hassle with RO again! QUOTE]

What scares me is word "Rapidly" and this is why it is Not good for reef tanks !

Yes, you are correct, most things that happen in reef tanks “rapidly” are bad for the reef. However, most is not everything.

If the phosphate remover had the power to “tear” or “forcefully remove” phosphates from preexisting chemical bonds, that would be harmful – you’d be breaking down the animals! Fortunately, it does not do that. It only removes phosphates which are not already bound chemically to something else. So it does no harm if its removal of phosphates.

It is very similar to carbon’s removal of things that discolor water or removing chlorine from water. It is more or less instantaneous removal – as soon as the carbon contacts it, it is gone. But because it only impacts free compounds in the water, it harms nothing because it does not break any preexisting chemical bonds to do so.

Hope this information helps.
Thank you

dirtyreefer 04-03-2007 09:56 PM

Don't aluminum based phosphate binders leech phosphates when exhausted?

demon666 04-03-2007 10:04 PM

i too asked him this but in the pm reply he said it wont and i think for the price of it , it wouldnt hurt to try it......jmo

Matt 04-03-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by demon666 (Post 244503)
i too asked him this but in the pm reply he said it wont and i think for the price of it , it wouldnt hurt to try it......jmo

Were you quoted a price, or did you find it somehow on their antediluvian website? Is there a brick-and-mortar retail outlet associated with IADEM?

TRS 04-03-2007 10:38 PM

Iron-based media is supposed to be the best phosphate binder. There are several of them on the market today. They include ROWAphos, PhoSar, Ultra Power Phos and a few others. Based the fact that the FRITZ product is Aluminum-based and also binds silica, I would not use it. If you do attempt the FRITZ Phosphate Remover, please post your results for the benefit of others.

The aluminum dissolves and irritates corals as described in this article:

Aluminum and aluminum-based phosphate binders
http://advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm

dirtyreefer 04-03-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by demon666 (Post 244503)
i too asked him this but in the pm reply he said it wont and i think for the price of it , it wouldnt hurt to try it......jmo

LOL, "it won't". There's some good science behind that explanation :D

Matt 04-04-2007 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTang (Post 244511)
Iron-based media is supposed to be the best phosphate binder. There are several of them on the market today. They include ROWAphos, PhoSar, Ultra Power Phos and a few others. Based the fact that the FRITZ product is Aluminum-based and also binds silica, I would not use it. If you do attempt the FRITZ Phosphate Remover, please post your results for the benefit of others.

The aluminum dissolves and irritates corals as described in this article:

Aluminum and aluminum-based phosphate binders
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/iss...ly2003/chem.htm

The link doesn't work...I found it at this url http://advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm

TRS 04-04-2007 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 244550)
The link doesn't work...I found it at this url http://advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm


Thanks for the correction Matt. :mrgreen:


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