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rocketlily 05-25-2008 02:24 AM

90 gal Corner Pentagon
 
Here's a picture of my 90 gal Corner Pentagon tank with Starfire Glass and the stand finished today. This is going to be a very slow build and will probably take a couple of months to get water in it.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/DSC00557.JPG
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/DSC00559.JPG

Parker 05-25-2008 02:53 AM

Looks like it's going to be pretty cool tank, look forward to seeing it up and running!

Der_Iron_Chef 05-25-2008 03:09 AM

Hey, that looks pretty cool! Looking forward to seeing it all put together.

P.S. Sorta Superman logo-esque shaped? :)

JDigital 05-25-2008 04:33 AM

Very cool tank design.. Look forward to watching this build..

rocketlily 07-07-2008 02:54 AM

Not much has been done on the corner tank during the last month. Now waiting for floors to be finished, so I transferred the contents of the 20 gal tank to a temporary 50 gal. sumpless tank.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/508/50_gal.jpg

regmes 07-10-2008 05:03 AM

Looks good but if I may put my 2 cents in. I find that there are many people building stand with 2x4, my experience is with 1x1 metal tubing, if you cant build it yourself because of the welding, it actualy is the same price to build with metal than wood and it is conveniantly more compact and more esteticly pleasing to the eye even when not covered.

rocketlily 07-10-2008 01:17 PM

This was an issue we went back and forth on. Access to a welding shop was not a problem nor were the tools for wood working. I think in the end the wood frame was a little cheaper and does give more options for change when something doesn't work out quite right.

Once it is skinned, I don't think you'll be able to see any difference.

banditpowdercoat 07-10-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regmes (Post 333891)
Looks good but if I may put my 2 cents in. I find that there are many people building stand with 2x4, my experience is with 1x1 metal tubing, if you cant build it yourself because of the welding, it actualy is the same price to build with metal than wood and it is conveniantly more compact and more esteticly pleasing to the eye even when not covered.

Yup, built and Powdercoated a couple tank stands now. Building myself some too soon. Wife wants a 10g Betta tank beside the couch. I need to find time though, Paying customers first I tell her HAHAHA

pastout 07-10-2008 11:42 PM

ya ecspecialy with a slow build i prefer the wood frame to haha. im at abotu the same position you are right now ive changed my mind so many times and changed so many things that part i like wood better

rocketlily 10-18-2008 01:19 AM

Finally, after many, many months, the floor in the living room is finished, the tank is on the stand, the sliding light rack is done, the sump has been built and the plumbing is finished. Been dealing with a leak for the past week but think it is fixed now. If it doesn't leak tonight, tomorrow it can be put in place and I can start filling it with water.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat...orner_tank.jpg

JDigital 10-18-2008 01:26 AM

Can you give a bit more detail regarding the lighting rack... Looks pretty slick..

rocketlily 10-18-2008 02:09 AM

Because of the depth of the tank, 24" and not knowing what the rock placement would be like I wanted a light that would slide from the back to the front. That way I can push it farther back if I'm working in the tank and can vary the position daily if wanted.

It's all built with a series of aluminum that has been bent to form channels for strength. I mounted heavy duty drawer slides under the middle set of channels and bolted the last set of channels to the slides. The light will then hang from the bottom set.

If this isn't very clear, I do have step by step pictures.

JDigital 10-18-2008 02:14 AM

Yea, I kinda got lost in the second paragraph.. lol

rocketlily 10-18-2008 02:43 AM

Here's the step by step in pictures.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat...Light_Rack.jpg

rocketlily 11-30-2008 05:27 PM

Well, after many months and redos, the tank is ready for a freshwater test. We had to rebuild the stand 6" higher, as there was not enough room to run the plumbing. With a ledge on the front, it should be just perfect for bar height.

Here's the empty tank waiting for water.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/IMG_0081.JPG

Here's the sump and plumbing. Water looks a little discolored because it's a test with our well water. A little bit of iron in the water.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/IMG_0084.JPG

Pan 11-30-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketlily (Post 364300)
Well, after many months and redos, the tank is ready for a freshwater test. We had to rebuild the stand 6" higher, as there was not enough room to run the plumbing. With a ledge on the front, it should be just perfect for bar height.

Here's the empty tank waiting for water.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/IMG_0081.JPG

Here's the sump and plumbing. Water looks a little discolored because it's a test with our well water. A little bit of iron in the water.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/IMG_0084.JPG

Interesting sump, you have a diagram of it somewhere? Curious to see what the layout is.

rocketlily 11-30-2008 05:53 PM

Freshwater has been running for a couple of hours now and no leaks. Overflow is quiet as can be. Eheim 1262 pump is completely silent.

Now, here pics of the noise problem. Extremel noisy where the water is entering the sump. There are no leaks in any of the fittings, so I cannot figure out where the air bubbles are coming from. This is the same problem I had with the Durso. Changing the gate valve only raises and lowers the level in the overflow, but does nothing to eliminate the noisy bubbles. I'm sure that once I figure out how to eliminate the turbulance coming from the bottom of the drain, this will be a very quiet system.

Here's the water coming out of the bottom of the drain. (ABS is being used until I figure out how to solve this problem)
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/511/IMG_0085.JPG

Here's the bubbles that have risen to the top. The white hose is the emergency drain. The water level in the overflow is just touching the top of the drain, but no water going down.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/511/IMG_0086.JPG

Interior_Reef 11-30-2008 05:58 PM

To elimiate the noise, Slice little slits in the pipe that is submerged int he sump. this will allow for the air to escape theline before being plunged into the sump.

you will still obviously get air bubbles, but super quiteer.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...a/DSCF0001.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...a/DSCF0002.jpg


anyone else have any suggestions?

rocketlily 11-30-2008 06:12 PM

Here's the drawing of the sump. Quietone pumps were changed to a single Eheim.
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat.../sump_top1.jpg

Doug 11-30-2008 07:04 PM

:smile: Wow. Very nice tank & sump. Beautiful design.

rocketlily 12-02-2008 02:57 AM

Did some experimenting tonight and found if I changed the drain size from 1 1/2" to 1" in the overflow and added a tee to the bottom of the drain, it is quiet as can be. The water level in the back is set just below the top of the emergency drain. The only thing I can hear now is the Eiheim pump and it is very quiet.

So we drained the freshwater and started to put the light rack back together. With any luck I should be starting to put saltwater in it tomorrow night.

tang daddy 12-02-2008 03:22 AM

Looks Like a nice set up what are you planning with this one mixed reef?

sphelps 12-02-2008 03:45 AM

Congrats on getting the noise level down to an acceptable level, sounds like it was a frustrating experience with lots of experimenting. Sometimes that's the only way since every system is different in it's own little way.

Good luck with the rest of the build, it looks great so far.

rocketlily 12-02-2008 03:47 AM

It will be a mixed reef. I have a dozen or so SPS's, a few LPS'S and I like zoanthids and mushrooms. So I guess mixed it is.

The one thing I am really unsure of is which fish to stock it with. It's hard to make a decision when you like them all.

Leah 12-03-2008 08:11 PM

Wow, looks great! Can't wait to see more pictures, when you get stuff in and I am pretty
curious to see the fish you pick.

rocketlily 12-04-2008 03:50 AM

It's finally mostly done. The light rack has been rebuilt and just needs a little bit of tweaking to make it easier to hang the lights. Will probably have another small bracket made upto hang the light on. The tank has been pushed back into it's corner and started putting water in tonight. It has about 8" now and will take a few days to fill it.

I'm mixing the salt right in the tank with a Quietone 4000. I was thinking of filling the tank with water and salt. Then filling the sump with RO water to the minimum operating level and adding the appropriate amount of salt to the tank. Then get the overflow running. Over the course of a couple of days this should get all the salt mixed in. During this time I wouldn't be adding any rocks or sand.

After a couple of days, I would add the rocks, which should then bring the sump level up to where it should be.

rocketlily 12-06-2008 10:28 PM

Today I've started adding rock that has been cooking for a few months. Set up a temp 150 MH light to help see in the tank and possibly start the cycle. I'm not very good at making up my mind and sticking to it, so the arrangement of the rocks could take a week or two. I choose today as the birthday of the tank since I'm adding something kind of alive, even though it's only dead rocks. If I were to choose the date of the idea, the tank would already be a year old.

Does anyone know of a drill that you can use to drill holes in rock underwater? Perhaps and air or dremel attachment?

tang daddy 12-07-2008 06:03 AM

electricity and water are very scary to mix...

May I ask why you don't take the rocks out to drill?

you can make a template of your tank out of cardboard wrap a garbage bag on it and then lay the rocks on that so you kinda get a feel for the dimensions of the tank.

rocketlily 12-07-2008 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 366244)
electricity and water are very scary to mix...

May I ask why you don't take the rocks out to drill?

you can make a template of your tank out of cardboard wrap a garbage bag on it and then lay the rocks on that so you kinda get a feel for the dimensions of the tank.

I just thought it would be nice after you have all the rocks just right to be able to drill a little hole for a frag plug instead of using epoxy.

After months of planning, waiting and redoing, here's what we're looking at tonight. I have never been so happy to see a sand storm.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/508/IMG_0142.JPG

Boomboy 12-07-2008 10:15 PM

ahh the good oh SFTS -> sandy front tank shot
Glorious isnt it

rocketlily 12-07-2008 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomboy (Post 366378)
ahh the good oh SFTS -> sandy front tank shot
Glorious isnt it

One of the happiest days of the year:biggrin:

JDigital 12-07-2008 10:40 PM

Ooohhhh can't wait for clear pics.. :mrgreen: Looks great.

rocketlily 12-10-2008 02:08 PM

On Saturday I added the water and rocks that have been cooking in semi dark for the past 5 - 6 months. On Sunday I added a bag of Carib Sea Ocean Direct Live Sand. I'm pretty sure that it's "live" benefit ended a long time ago, but I liked the type of sand it was. This morning I notice a couple of little pods running when the flashlight caught them.

Today I did the following tests using Hagen test kits:
Ammonia: 0
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: less than .1

So I figure that the cycle has not even started yet. I have a rock in another tank loaded with Anthelia and sponge patches. I was thinking that if I tried to pick off the Anthelia and the sponge patches get a little air, this might be enough to start the cycle.

fishytime 12-10-2008 02:38 PM

You could also try adding a raw table shrimp or ghost feed the tank with mysis once or twice. That should kick start things.

Skimmerking 12-10-2008 03:35 PM

love the tank and stand. man that makes me want to start another tank. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nawwwwwwwww but i will bookmark this thread thou. I remember some one had a sps tank like that awhile back eposer was his name from Calgary sexy looking tank...

p.s where sis you get that tank....

rocketlily 12-11-2008 01:31 AM

Here's some pictures of the preliminary aquascaping. Due to my camera skills I cannot get a picture that shows the depth of the tank. From the front glass to the overflow it's 28".

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...k/IMG_0165.jpg

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...chDec10-08.jpg

This is a picture of the 20 gal holding tank. These will go in when the tank has finished cycling.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...k/IMG_0153.jpg

Lance 12-11-2008 01:34 AM

Looking good! I like your aqua-scaping.

rocketlily 12-13-2008 03:36 PM

Did testing on the water this morning and here's my results:

Hagen test kit:
Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0

Seachem test kit:
Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 (did reference test: 10)

Same results as Wednesday morning. Wednesday night I added a couple of rocks from an existing tank with many blue mushrooms, 2 blue clove polyps and a devils hand. Had to add the corals, as I needed the rock and couldn't remove the corals. Also threw in a little filter pad I had stuck in the back of the 50 gal to collect bacteria for the past 2 months. The corals are thriving, in fact the devils hand has never looked so good.

Thursday morning I threw in half a tablespoon of frozen mysis shrimp in hopes to get a cycle going. Do you think that I'm going to see any sort of a cycle here?

Also know it's a ways off, but here is my fish wish list (in the order I plan on putting them in, 4 - 6 weeks apart). Comments on this list are always welcome.

1. Royal Gramma Basslet
2. Pajama Cardinalfish
3. Barletts Anthias
4. Sixline Wrasse
5. Copperband Butterfly
6. Yellow Tang
7. Cinnamon Clown (with or without anenome - not sure yet)
8. Some sort of jawfish
9. Some sort of Hawkfish or other red colored fish
10. Of course, the Mandarin fish

Lance 12-13-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketlily (Post 368335)
Did testing on the water this morning and here's my results:

Hagen test kit:
Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0

Seachem test kit:
Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 (did reference test: 10)

Same results as Wednesday morning. Wednesday night I added a couple of rocks from an existing tank with many blue mushrooms, 2 blue clove polyps and a devils hand. Had to add the corals, as I needed the rock and couldn't remove the corals. Also threw in a little filter pad I had stuck in the back of the 50 gal to collect bacteria for the past 2 months. The corals are thriving, in fact the devils hand has never looked so good.
Thursday morning I threw in half a tablespoon of frozen mysis shrimp in hopes to get a cycle going. Do you think that I'm going to see any sort of a cycle here?

Also know it's a ways off, but here is my fish wish list (in the order I plan on putting them in, 4 - 6 weeks apart). Comments on this list are always welcome.

1. Royal Gramma Basslet
2. Pajama Cardinalfish
3. Barletts Anthias
4. Sixline Wrasse
5. Copperband Butterfly
6. Yellow Tang
7. Cinnamon Clown (with or without anenome - not sure yet)
8. Some sort of jawfish
9. Some sort of Hawkfish or other red colored fish
10. Of course, the Mandarin fish



I wouldn't put a mandarin in for quite some time. They require a well-established tank with lots of pods, etc. Also be wary of the Hawkfish, they can be little buggers. They may eat any shrimp, crabs, even small fish. Basically, anything they can get their mouths around.

rocketlily 12-13-2008 06:00 PM

Of course the Mandarin will be my Christmas present next year. I'm not sure of the Hawkfish, but more interested in something red. The colors of the Flame Hawkfish really cought my eye.


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