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Wretch 03-26-2015 06:38 PM

2 Part Dosing
 
Just want to check my numbers here. I am going to be mixing my solutions in 2 litre jugs. So all my ingredients are cut in half.

Calcium - 1 cup Anhydrous Calcium Chloride
Alkalinity - 1 cup Sodium Carbonate
Magnesium - 2.5 cup Magnesium Chloride 1.5 cups Magnesium Sulfate or 4 cups Magnesium sulfate

As for the Magnesium solution is one mix better then the other?

Thanks.

nerdz 03-26-2015 09:28 PM

I can't verify the quantities right now... But as for the magnesium, most people use the one with two ingredients. That all sulfate recipie would only be a minor concern if you never did water changes as sulfate levels would rise. Sulfate is still a major portion of the 2 mag recipe anyway

mark 03-26-2015 11:59 PM

RHF recipe

Wretch 03-27-2015 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 942662)

Thanks for the info.

Wretch 04-09-2015 09:40 PM

Ok got my doser setup to dose Calcium and Alkalinity but have a question about magnesium. J&L sell Magnesium Chloride or Magnesium Chloride Flake. The two are the same thing just in different form, so why is here a price difference between the two? Do you have to weigh the flake? or can it be measured? Does the flake dissolve as well as the powder? Is the price difference worth it? Thanks all.

hillegom 04-10-2015 12:24 AM

When you get the mag chloride, get some mag sulphate (epsom salt) from costco. Its the cheapest. Mix as in the given recipe above.
Sorry, I don't know the difference betw. the powder and the flake.

Myka 04-10-2015 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Holmes-Farley
A certain mixture of magnesium chloride and magnesium sulfate has no net effect on seawater's major anions (chloride and sulfate). All that is necessary for such a recipe is to add these two ingredients in such a ratio that they add chloride and sulfate in the ratio naturally present in seawater (which is 7.1 to 1 on a weight basis and 9.6 to 1 on a per ion basis).

To perfect such a recipe, it's imperative to know the amounts of sulfate in Epsom salts (39%), the amount of chloride in magnesium chloride hexahydrate (34.9%), and their bulk densities, because most aquarists will use a volume based measurement (1.05 g/cm3 for Epsom salts and 0.85 g/cm3 for magnesium chloride hexahydrate solids). Taking all these factors into account, the desired volume ratio is 10:1, MAG flake to Epsom salts, as a supplement; for instance, 10 cups MAG flake and 1 cup Epsom salts.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-07/rhf/index.php

RHF wrote this article when calcium reactors were THE thing. 2-part dosing is more common now though, and we add a lot more chloride ions through calcium choride, so a better version for 2-part particularly if you are dosing calcium chloride heavily is 5:3 chloride to sulfate to make up for all the chloride we're adding via 2-part.

hillegom 04-10-2015 12:44 AM

I use this recipe from Randy Holmes:

3. Using both Epsom salts and MAG flake, dissolve 7¼ cups MAG flake and ¾ cup Epsom salts in one gallon of water, and use that to supplement magnesium in amounts determined using this linked online calculator, with the entry "Randy's Recipes 1 and 2 Versions A and B," and ignore for this purpose what those designations mean. This recipe is preferred, but its advantage over recipe #2 is minimal in most cases.

Which is derived from:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-07/rhf/

reefwars 04-10-2015 12:45 AM

which like mindy said is 10yrs old now:)

reefwars 04-10-2015 12:47 AM

oh and flake is most likely dihydrate fwiw:)


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