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spawn 06-16-2011 04:08 AM

Vancouver Fans
 
The unfortunate part is that the fans would've likely rioted even if they had won. They are the real losers, & as stated I am one very happy e-pat from B.C. LOSERS. Maybe it's because they don't have jobs or the cup.

Trigger Man 06-16-2011 04:33 AM

Just embarrassing to say the least. Here vancouver fans were saying canadians need to cheer for Vancouver as it is a Canadian team, yet Vancouver is disgracing our Canadian name. The game is over, go home already

mark 06-16-2011 04:35 AM

don't think it's right calling the fans rioters. The rioters are a special class of people.

skabooya 06-16-2011 04:37 AM

Those aren't fans. Just a bunch of bored idiots.

spawn 06-16-2011 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 618519)
don't think it's right calling the fans rioters. The rioters are a special class of people.

Fair enough, I didn't mean to stereotype. I started typing way to fast, my bad. I guess there's just more of that "class" of people in Van. than other Canadian cities that have had similar type "Incidents" in recent history.

Magma 06-16-2011 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spawn (Post 618523)
Fair enough, I didn't mean to stereotype. I started typing way to fast, my bad. I guess there's just more of that "class" of people in Van. than other Canadian cities that have had similar type "Incidents" in recent history.

Very true, Calgarys run for the cup had the red mile, very few incidents other than the famous Flames Girls.com website, Edmonton had some minor issues with there White Ave, few more problems but nothing on this scale that Vancouver has today.

ensquire 06-16-2011 07:20 AM

I would reeally like to jump all over these losers as Canuck Fans and label them all.
Unfortunately it is only a very small percentage of Vancourites that are causing all the problems.
Whata total bunch of losers. Don't they know that there is facail recognition software that the police are using. Christ, it was only a friggin hockey game.

MKLKT 06-16-2011 07:46 AM

I was downtown and watched from the 34th floor of the Scotiatower. I saw the people who were coming downtown to watch and I can assure you that they were NOT Vancouverites (from out of city, etc.) and there was not sufficient prevention of liquor/drug consumtion in the areas with large crowds.

And like the smaller incident that happened last year in the olympics there were prepared anarchists with weapons/tools ready to cause destruction regardless of what happened. They were never there to watch the game.

Don't lump real fans in with this shameful behaviour. Everyone I know who's been a lifelong fan isn't involved in this.

There have also been riots and other incidences in most other Canadian cities during the playoffs. The layout of Downtown Vancouver and the way it's kind of locked in by bridges/viaducts doesn't help with dispersing people either.

StirCrazy 06-16-2011 01:11 PM

the problem is that while cars were being flipped and turned on fire there were thousands of people watching and cheering. (just watched the footage) it wasn't a small group involved it was thousands involved. even if you are there and watched with out trying to stop something or leaving you are part of it, so realy the only innocent people were the ones that left when they saw it going on or ones who tried to stop it to some degree.

edmonton the cops brought out the firedepartment and turned the hose on us and we left... the vancouver cops let this go way to long befor breaking it up.

Steve

gobytron 06-16-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 618545)
the problem is that while cars were being flipped and turned on fire there were thousands of people watching and cheering. (just watched the footage) it wasn't a small group involved it was thousands involved. even if you are there and watched with out trying to stop something or leaving you are part of it, so realy the only innocent people were the ones that left when they saw it going on or ones who tried to stop it to some degree.

edmonton the cops brought out the firedepartment and turned the hose on us and we left... the vancouver cops let this go way to long befor breaking it up.

Steve

And what do you figure would have happened to any one of those thousands on the sidelines who tried to intervene?

think you would have?

fishytime 06-16-2011 02:54 PM

sad to see history repeat itself......real classy!:cry:........this is exactly the reason I couldnt bring myself to cheer for Van.......

parkinsn 06-16-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 618556)
sad to see history repeat itself......real classy!:cry:........this is exactly the reason I couldnt bring myself to cheer for Van.......

That? Or your a TRUE Calgary fan and have to default to NOT cheer for Van?
:biggrin:

Too bad the fans in van have to be like that. The fans that I saw here were pretty good about the whole thing. I was in the bar rocking Boston gear and no comments were made to me about the best win of the year.

sphelps 06-16-2011 03:23 PM

The riot had little to do with the result of the game, win or loose those people came to riot not watch the game. The true fans in the stadium actually surprised me as they all cheered on Boston after the game ended.

MKLKT 06-16-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 618561)
The riot had little to do with the result of the game, win or loose those people came to riot not watch the game. The true fans in the stadium actually surprised me as they all cheered on Boston after the game ended.

This for sure, I'm proud that the fans in the arena gave the team an ovation for a great season. Thomas deserved the cheers as did the Bruins, they were the better team this series, sadly my Canucks didn't play like they did all year leading up to it. Bettman getting boo'd was par, he's not liked in Canada regardless. Although the sneering way he presented the trophy even got me pretty offended.

lorenz0 06-16-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkinsn (Post 618558)
That? Or your a TRUE Calgary fan and have to default to NOT cheer for Van?

Any true Calgary fan would never cheer for the "Cannot's"... or edmonton lol

Not only am I disgusted by the aftermath but embarresed at the same time

I'll leave it at that. Just happy that my friends and a family member are ok.

Coleus 06-16-2011 04:30 PM

pict tells thousand words

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/pic...pictureid=4512

parkinsn 06-16-2011 04:55 PM

The best part of this whole thing, is that the morons are posting their pic's ans tagging themselves on facebook and getting arrested for it. How dumb do you have to be to tag a picture of you rioting?

ScubaSteve 06-16-2011 05:12 PM

Ya, this is pretty brutal. I have to echo what was said earlier: the people who were rioting we not from Vancouver and they came prepared to riot. They were not hockey fans. It was premeditated (who brings a riot mask to a f-ing hockey game?) and they were instigating others... Then the rest of the idiots were just standing there taking pictures so that they can show their friends and look cool.

My girlfriend and I had to go through downtown last night to check on her home and business to make sure they were OK as the neighbors on both sides had their windows smashed and the parkade next door was set on fire. It was bizarre. Vancouver felt like a war zone. I have seen that in Bangkok and Cambodia, but my own home? Really? And the worst part was that there were people showing up for the "festivities" from Surrey and other out lying areas (they were showing up at 9pm or later, no Canucks jerseys, ready to fight). I started telling people to go home and they started threatening us. These people didn't even watch the game.

The city is less disappointed by the loss of the game than we are about this crap. I am particularly disappointed to come on here and find people saying "this is exactly the reason why I couldn't bring myself to cheer for Van". Really? You knew about this riot before hand? You hate Vancouver because of it's fans? (when the Bruins fans were cheering 'Canucks Suck' during the Boston games... Classy).

This was not a hockey riot, they used the game as an excuse. People need to pull their heads put of their butts and get off the high horse and see that this is not representative of the city or of hockey. Trash talk the rioters, not the city or the Canucks.

lorenz0 06-16-2011 05:35 PM

I did look into it this morning and your right, people did come in just to riot and it was going to happen no matter what the outcome was going to be. Hockey fan's joined in. There are hundreds of pictures and alot of them show people wearing jersey's.

This isn't the first time this has happened in vancouver and this event doesn't help with a known reputation. This doesn't happen here and it shouldn't happen there. Its sad how many people have been effected by the actions of these people.

On another note, obviously we are dealing with a class of people who are either boarder line retarded or imbreed to the point of stupidity. BC already has outrageous taxes and they go around flipping and burnung up cop cars... ummm smart thinking guys. like common

ScubaSteve 06-16-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz0 (Post 618577)
I did look into it this morning and your right, people did come in just to riot and it was going to happen no matter what the outcome was going to be. Hockey fan's joined in. There are hundreds of pictures and alot of them show people wearing jersey's.

This isn't the first time this has happened in vancouver and this event doesn't help with a known reputation. This doesn't happen here and it shouldn't happen there. Its sad how many people have been effected by the actions of these people.

On another note, obviously we are dealing with a class of people who are either boarder line retarded or imbreed to the point of stupidity. BC already has outrageous taxes and they go around flipping and burnung up cop cars... ummm smart thinking guys. like common

That's the problem. Some idiots back in '94 set a precedent of riots so that you now get the retards thinking that is cool... and then you get the media playing it up to look more epic and it just encourages more of this. The idiots give us this reputation, outsiders and media help perpetuate it and the idiots buy right back into it. Believe me, this is not a reputation that we appreciate nor should this be happening here. I don't know about you, but I don't appreciate people smashing my windows and wrecking my city...

This is an issue of a group of prepared instigators and drunk crowd mentality.

AJ_77 06-16-2011 06:12 PM

I guess it was exciting?

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/4...n?size=620x400

lorenz0 06-16-2011 06:45 PM

lol that picture is spreading like STD's

I've made out with some girls in some really weird places... this one top's any of mine

Slick Fork 06-16-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 618552)
And what do you figure would have happened to any one of those thousands on the sidelines who tried to intervene?

think you would have?

You don't have to intervene, but standing and cheering the morons on is just throwing fuel on the fire. Anyone with decency should have left or be actively providing assistance to the police. Anyone identified in the mob should be presented with a bill for the clean-up. If only one person is identified, bill em for the whole thing... I bet that would start getting names produced.

lorenz0 06-16-2011 07:49 PM

There is a group on facebook right now trying to identify people from pictures

abcha0s 06-16-2011 08:03 PM

Go Boston!

parkinsn 06-16-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcha0s@conceptaquatics (Post 618594)
Go Boston!

+1

gobytron 06-16-2011 08:56 PM

Now thats classy guys.

good to know there are some true Boston fans on this board.

dsaundry 06-16-2011 09:08 PM

Imo anytime you invite 5000-100000 people into the city to watch on the "Big Screen" you are asking for mob mentality to be a factor. They was no doubt as there were a small faction of sh*t disturbers who had planned this from the start. Its not the Canucks as an organization or team that are responsible in any way shape or form for this. This is also on Vancouvers politicians and organizors heads imo. I would not be surprised to see the business's sue the city for the sh*tty planning of this event. They didn't learn in 94 and as the old saying goes, "Those who do not learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them". The majority of the fans were fine, but like mindless "Lemmings" a few followed the idiots and escalated the situation. This has happened in other cities before and will probably happen again, next time the Canucks make a run for the cup lets hope the city gets smart and tells the people that can't afford tickets to watch it at home or in the bars and stay the hell away from gathering in the city. As a Bruins fan I am very happy my team won, I am disgusted in what happened on the streets of Vancouver after.

gobytron 06-16-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcha0s@conceptaquatics (Post 618594)
Go Boston!

Remember this guys...
next time you're making a purchase.

MKLKT 06-16-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 618603)
P.S. - Anyone see all the messages written in chalk on the sidewalk and on boards covering broken windows where the riot occured?

Pretty moving and really shows the real side of this city.

I have some pictures of this, I'll try to up them later. (I'm busy uploading aerial video to the police right now.) I watched from almost the same height of the helicopters and could see exactly where the crowds/police were going. It was insane.

Have some more class Boston guys, please.

parkinsn 06-16-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKLKT (Post 618607)
Have some more class Boston guys, please.

Still more class than this guy will ever have :biggrin:
http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/r...ys-dar-110.jpg

Bblinks 06-16-2011 10:01 PM

I am proud to be a Vancouver Canucks fan riot or no riot. 50-80 thousand people doesn't make it easy for crowd control. VPD did what they had to do. It only took a few out of towner to instigate and we got ourselves a full blown riot, they are probably all hitch hike here from Calgary anyways.:biggrin:

StirCrazy 06-16-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 618611)
I am proud to be a Vancouver Canucks fan riot or no riot. 50-80 thousand people doesn't make it easy for crowd control. VPD did what they had to do. It only took a few out of towner to instigate and we got ourselves a full blown riot, they are probably all hitch hike here from Calgary anyways.:biggrin:

true, but the VPD started way to lait as soon as it started they should have used tear gas.

you guys keep saying it was out of towners, are you sure.. do you know the people who started it? or do you know everyone in the vancouver regional district and they have all told you it wasn't them? :mrgreen:

I am not saying it wasn't out of towners and I am not saying it was.. what I am saying is it is pretty bold to assume there is no one that lives in a city area with a population of over 2 mill that would cause trouble. as for weather it was canucks fans instagating or not thats not the issue and it isn't a reason to bash any teams fans, what it is is another case of the city not being prepared.

as for the earlier comment about what would have happened if some one tried to interveen there was a video of a guy kicking a car and a girl cold cocked him for it.. he sulked away... if there are only a few out of towners causing problem as people keep saying what about the 80000+ in towners.. you think a couple people are going to stand up to a big mob.. nope. the footage shows that everyone was cheering the few on, then others startrd getting involved..

we had a smaller scale thing in edmonton in the 80's I was in the area but not on the same street. as soon as people started beating and flipping a cop car the fire deparment turned on the water hoses on the crowd. people left and went home before it got much worse..

The VPD knows how fast protests get out of hand down there at the first sign of trouble there should have opened up with the flash bangs and the tear gas.

mind you while I am all for protest and civil rights, I am also against civil disobeadiance so I may take a harder line view on some things.

although I did have to laugh at the video of the guy who got hit in the gonads with the flashbang.. I am sure he isn't feeling all that great. :mrgreen:

Steve

StirCrazy 06-16-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ_77 (Post 618581)


hmmm thats awsome :mrgreen: to bad there arn't more pics of her.. she looks good:wink:

Steve

Bblinks 06-16-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 618618)
hmmm thats awsome :mrgreen: to bad there arn't more pics of her.. she looks good:wink:

Steve

I guess there is no time like right NOW. haha.

spawn 06-16-2011 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkinsn (Post 618610)
Still more class than this guy will ever have :biggrin:
http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/r...ys-dar-110.jpg

No those don't look like Van Fans at all?
Keep bringing those sweet pics!
I'd be willing to bet most if not all the rioters were Vancouver-ites & there co-conspirators were all from the central coast & Island. As a kid playing hockey on the island the point of the game & sportsman-ship of any kind was always lost on the majority of the players & especially the crowd. It was such a redneck atmosphere you usually ended up fighting, even members from your own team & afterwards if you did well you'd have to watch your back anywhere you played. Wake the F..k up Van. that's the blue collar mentality your fellow citizens have, with no where to go & nothing to look forwards to, the youth of the working class out there has nothing to lose unfortunately. The riots are created by a socio-economic break down of classes that started 3 decades ago. But seriously it's a super nice place to visit in the summer months. Thomas Kicked ASS!

MKLKT 06-16-2011 10:46 PM

The police had to get the fire department to leave because it got too out of hand. The original car flip/fire was put out and police got control (right out front of the post office) and when I checked back about 5 minutes later the mob had swarmed back and started fires again (as well as smashing up BMO). Not a whole lot of people compared to the GVRD live in actual downtown... same problem with the fireworks too, it's not the people who actually live there doing the damage.

Tons of evidence of those involved taking the skytrain back out to the suburbs. I've lived here my whole life and it's easy to tell where most of the locals are from. I'm not saying it was 100% out of towners, that's not realistic. Like how it's being blamed on actual anarchists and fans, it's truly neither of those and just straight up drunk *******s who joined for the sole purpose of fighting with police and destroying property.

The Canucks team store, banners, etc. all along the areas were untouched, I went by this morning. Shows pretty well it wasn't about the game. It was targeted mostly to certain retailers in addition to flipping cars/starting fires.

Doug 06-16-2011 10:46 PM

NO, dont stir it up. Keep preaching your own political agenda and you may find yourself on a certain list we have. :lol: {this applies to whomever}. Feel free to discuss this mess but leave your crap someplace else.

Remember this is an aquarium board. I,m sure there are many political boards where you can let loose on your opinions if you so wish.

Thank-you.

ScubaSteve 06-16-2011 11:31 PM

Wow, this clown traveled all the way to Vancouver for a riot.... this is rediculous

Slick Fork 06-17-2011 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 618600)
Really?
and how much of this incident had to do with how badly the VPD have villified themselves to the general population...

Robert Djikansky, Ian Bush, random beatings of innocent newspaper delivery men, blatant kicks to the face of those safely in custody and not resisting; their lack of accountability makes it an easy choice for a rowled up crowd.

The anarchists know exactly how to engage the police so that it's immediately us vs them.

In Vancouver, we already have a massive distrust for them and the job of the senseless few is just made easier.

Whatever the history the VPD has with its citizens is moot. Criminal behaviour is criminal behaviour period and should not be excused.

How does robbery, assault, and arson translate into an acceptable social statement? Just because you don't like somebody or something isn't an excuse to behave like this. They destroyed the property of innocent people and companies, those caught should be forced to pay the entire bill.


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