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Who has a Wavebox on a tank less than 100 gallons?
Anyone have a Wavebox 6212 on a smaller tank? I don't mean the Nano Wavebox, the full size.
I just got a 6212, and put it on my 90. I haven't been messing around with it for very long yet, but it seems like I have it turned down as low as it will go, and it seems to still be thrashing the LPS around a bit. I'm wondering if I should have gone for the Nano instead. Thoughts? |
Mindy try asking on the tunze forum on RC IF you can just swap the 24v jumper with 15v one so it runs with less flow. If so I can mail you the one I'm not using with my 6101 stream.
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I have a wavebox in my 90 gallon. The tank has a corner overflow. The wavebox is mounted slightly more towards the front of the tank on the same side as the overflow. The wavebox is cranked up to full power and the pulse is longish, so its on longer than its off I don't really have much in the way of LPS though. Most of my LPS are small pieces and are at the bottom of the tank.
Not really sure what to tell you, for me it was all about placement. I did manage to blow the tissue off one of my SPS colonies due to poor placement on my part. Those colonies that were having any issues were either moved or I moved the wavebox more forward until the wave action was less direct. |
Thanks Christie! I have mine on the opposite end as the overflow, but I was thinking it might work better on the same side as the overflow. Right now I have the pump turned as low as it will go, and the wave action almost as fast as it will go. It seems the wave is either tidal wave-like or non-existent. :lol:
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I found having the wavebox opposite to the overflow made the wave too short. I think we're pushing it on a 4' tank as it is and even 6" shorter seems to make a difference in the wave.
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My thoughts exactly.
Lights are out on the tank now, so I just switched it off, but I will move it tomorrow and try it out on the other side. Thanks Christie! |
no problemo! I hope it works out for you :biggrin:
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I've seen a full sized wavebox on something as small as a 65 gallon before and it produced a wave just fine. When I was doing some trouble shooting on mine I had it in a 33 gallon and it also made a wave. It's all a matter of tuning which can be quite time consuming.
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I used to have a original large wavebox in 36" long tank. It did produce wave just fine. |
I just put a nano wavebox in my 100gallon tonight. Im getting plenty of wave at the lowest pump power setting. I would guess its moving water 3/4" at both ends. The only wave action I get is on a very fast pulse.
What really surprised me is I tried the box in the front corner where there are no obstructions.. then tried it in the back corner where its basically pointed smack into the reef rock and the wave is just as strong. I figured the rock would block it somewhat but it doesnt. Im going to leave mine in the back where its not seen much. The impeller was getting stuck on the side of the little tunnel the water shoots out of. We took it apart and pushed the pump back a little.. hopefully thats not going to be an ongoing problem. I have a question for those of you that have wavemakers.. were you able to do away with any "flow" pumps once you put the wavemaker in? Im running 4 nanostreams and one big tunze and now the wavebox. |
I asked the Rep on RC about having a wavebox in a 30 inch cube (70 gallons)......... said it would work.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1541819 Cheers, Vic |
Oh I am getting a wave! That's not the issue. I just find that anything within about a 12" radius of the Wavebox is getting a thrashing because the pump is so strong.
Hey Christie, how close were your SPS that got the flesh blown off? If I put the Wavebox on the same side as the overflow there are several SPS that will be within 6-8" of the pump opening on the Wavebox. I'm thinkin that's too close. I could slide that rock structure over though. |
Shelley, I think the wavebox is designed for supplemental flow so you need extra pumps. That being said, previously I was running 2 6060s and a 6045 in my tank while currently I'm just running one 6060 (less corals than previously and I've been lazy about getting everything back in the tank) and everything is groovy.
Myka, the coral in question was about 3" from the wavebox. I'd say 6" is your minimum distance. Just have a look at the coral, if its polyps are being plastered back by the wave, its probably too close. Unless of course its a milli, those things love crazy strong flow :biggrin: |
I'd still look into the jumper thing. at 15V the pump will run a lot less strongly than at 24V I just don't know if Tunze condones that.
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Tunze literature clearly states that the Wavebox is only meant for supplemental flow and that primary flow must be provided by other means.
I'd ask the Tunze forum on RC about lowering the voltage but I suspect that that is the way to go since the ability to vary voltage is built into their newer streams/nanostreams and even the osmolator. |
I know for a fact that the 6101 transformer runs at 15V and 24V and possibly 12V. It displays a range on the back I just can't recall. The 6101 transformers are used on the waveboxes which actually use 6201 series pumps I believe. Like you said tho these pumps are intended to run a bit differently so I'd ask but the 6101 stream can certainly run at 15V.
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I posted up on Reef Central. My controller doesn't have the variable voltage switch on the back.
Thanks Christie, my SPS are about 6-8" away from the Wavebox. The Mille is loving it (of course haha), but the Birdnests and Stylo aren't impressed...polyps are mostly retracted. Maybe they will get used to it? |
The stylo will likely get used to it (I had two and both mine eventually liked it, they were kind of crabby at first tho). The birdsnest might but they like more indirect flow, IMO.
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The jumpers slide into the transformer not the controller =) If you decide to try that out fire me a pm and I'll mail it to you.
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Here is Tunze's reply (from Reef Central): "The Nano Wavebox is probably your best solution but despite the look of the wave, 1.5" would provide great flow. You could try 15V but I think the Nano Wavebox will work better. The corals will adapt but it is important that they be secured in place so they cannot fall down."
I also asked if I could get a medium-sized wave since all I seem to be able to produce is 1.5" (or more) or nothing. So I think I will just see how the corals adapt in the next week or so, and if that doesn't work I will ask my friend if he wants to trade for his Wavebox Nano. I can move the Birdnests to the other side of the rock arch. they will probably be happier there. I will try trading spots with the Acros. I think the Acros will handle it since they don't have very big polyps. The Stylo looks better today, but still isn't impressed. Pfff...finicky corals! My Duncan is choked, and my Euphyllias aren't too happy. Maybe they will all get used to it. Thanks for the offer Brett, but I will try to stick it out. :) |
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