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300g 03-27-2009 06:23 AM

12" blueface
 
i just buy 12" blueface + 12" bluering + 8" passer + 13" naso + 2" flamehawk
3" passer + 8" Magnificent Foxface + 4" bluethoat trigger !!
Who is the bosss ??? i think blueface ?? pics will post tmr !
i have 4" Xmas wrasse (male)
3" clown wrasse
5" red coris wrs
5.5 flagfin angle
2" orange lemonpeel
3.5" flame angle
5" harlequin tusk
4" yellow tank
7" Australian Dussumieri Tang
4" indo Dussumieri Tang
6" hawaii Dussumieri Tang
2" white freckled tang
7" blond naso

next order will try 10-12" xmas island emp angel , golden puffer
chrysurus angel ,scribbled angel ,personifer angel !!

Keri 03-27-2009 08:27 PM

wow,that's a lot of tangs and angels! Do they all get along?

300g 03-27-2009 08:36 PM

yes ,they doing very well !! i will post pics tonight !!

naesco 03-27-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300g (Post 404538)
i just buy 12" blueface + 12" bluering + 8" passer + 13" naso + 2" flamehawk
3" passer + 8" Magnificent Foxface + 4" bluethoat trigger !!
Who is the bosss ??? i think blueface ?? pics will post tmr !
i have 4" Xmas wrasse (male)
3" clown wrasse
5" red coris wrs
5.5 flagfin angle
2" orange lemonpeel
3.5" flame angle
5" harlequin tusk
4" yellow tank
7" Australian Dussumieri Tang
4" indo Dussumieri Tang
6" hawaii Dussumieri Tang
2" white freckled tang
7" blond naso

next order will try 10-12" xmas island emp angel , golden puffer
chrysurus angel ,scribbled angel ,personifer angel !!

Did you put them all in at the same time? I know you have a large tank but this is far too many at one time. Please do not add any more for some time.
How long have you had thing tank operating?

Tom R 03-27-2009 09:24 PM

I would love to see some pictures of your tank.

Tom R

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-27-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keri (Post 404673)
wow,that's a lot of tangs and angels! Do they all get along?

Probably way too many fish in that tank for there to be much aggression.

Can't wait to see pictures.

300g 03-27-2009 10:02 PM

i put blueface ,bluering , passer 3"/ 7" ,bluethroat trigger ,magnifica foxeface,
flamhawk different time at lastnight 7:30pm - 02:30 am !
frist 9:00pm put foxface (get sick today), 45min -later put bluethroat , 1:30hrs -flamhawk ( dead in this morning ) ,2hrs- small passer , 3hrs- 8"passer ,6hrs later put (blueface or bluering )???? Ok try Blueface -he so big and fat ,30 min later -only one bluering ( i think he very stress ) . anyone know how to post pics or video on canreef .i just take more pics and video few mins before or i have to wait my wife after work to help !
thx

Madreefer 03-27-2009 11:01 PM

Download your photos to http://photobucket.com/
copy the img and paste on to this site.
It is free to join.
Where are you finding these big fish? I bet they are pretty pricey.
I see you are not asking for any suggestions or help (not that I can give any) but looking forward to seeing your pics.:popcorn:

300g 03-27-2009 11:09 PM

ok ! try to post !!

new but handy 03-27-2009 11:24 PM

adding fish slowly means 1-2 every few-several weeks not over a few hours:sad:. I'm surprised they're all not sick or dying.

Trigger Man 03-27-2009 11:36 PM

Ya thats a lot of fish you just added in less then a 24 hour span. You have to be very careful monitoring your tank over the next while, and have medication on standby. Also make sure the water is ariating and you may want to do waterchanges atleast once a week for the next while as your tanks is probably no longer in balance. How long has the tank been running for?

naesco 03-27-2009 11:58 PM

When did you tank complete cycling?
Please list
salinity
water temperature
ammonia, nitrite and nitrate readings

Tell us how you acclimatized your fish before you put them in the tank?
When did you last put fish in the tank and how many?
Forget about the photos for now because I think you are having problems already.
I would recommend that you take all but two of them back to the lfs tommorrow and would recommend that you take back the large angels and the naso for sure.

Pazil 03-28-2009 01:18 AM

OMG...:jaw: That more than doubled the bio load!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300g (Post 404705)
i put blueface ,bluering , passer 3"/ 7" ,bluethroat trigger ,magnifica foxeface,
flamhawk different time at lastnight 7:30pm - 02:30 am !
frist 9:00pm put foxface (get sick today), 45min -later put bluethroat , 1:30hrs -flamhawk ( dead in this morning ) ,2hrs- small passer , 3hrs- 8"passer ,6hrs later put (blueface or bluering )???? Ok try Blueface -he so big and fat ,30 min later -only one bluering ( i think he very stress ) . anyone know how to post pics or video on canreef .i just take more pics and video few mins before or i have to wait my wife after work to help !
thx


mark 03-28-2009 01:46 AM

hope things work out for you (and the fish)

Madreefer 03-28-2009 01:56 AM

The guys only got 19 posts. He has'nt asked for any help yet. It does'nt appear that he is asking for your opinions. Maybe lay off of him for a bit. He's obviously posting 'cause he's proud of what he's got. Can someone not post without getting the riot act read to them? No need to chase him away. Sounds like I'm coming across as being ignorant but I'm not trying to be.

digital-audiophile 03-28-2009 02:11 AM

:flypig: :pray:

I await pictures.

naesco 03-28-2009 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 404764)
The guys only got 19 posts. He has'nt asked for any help yet. It does'nt appear that he is asking for your opinions. Maybe lay off of him for a bit. He's obviously posting 'cause he's proud of what he's got. Can someone not post without getting the riot act read to them? No need to chase him away. Sounds like I'm coming across as being ignorant but I'm not trying to be.

You are coming across as that and being unfair. I re-read all the posts and no one read the riot act to him.
Most expressed their concern that he overstocked his tank and added too many fish at once. Some are now dead and some are dying.

What would you expect posters to post?

Madreefer 03-28-2009 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile (Post 404768)
:flypig: :pray:

I await pictures.

Yeah me to.:wink:

300g 03-28-2009 02:24 AM

Thanks for everyone's concern and posts. I just wanted to ensure to everyone that I'm not "fooling" around with my aquarium. I've been in this hobby for many years and to this day, it's still exciting for me when I put in new fish. I just wanted to share the pics/news with you all. My bad grammar might have made me a bit obnoxious that's why my wife is typing for me now!!! :razz: :lol: The fish all appear to be doing well. They are eating and not fighting. I'll try to answer your posts.
I have medication on hand - it's a special mixture of Rx that I've come up with. Tried & tested & working - in Chinese I've been calling it the "Magic Brew".
The water is changed once/week from my friend - he's owns an aquarium maintenance service. I'll post soon having dinner.
thanks

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-28-2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300g (Post 404778)
Thanks for everyone's concern and posts. I just wanted to ensure to everyone that I'm not "fooling" around with my aquarium. I've been in this hobby for many years and to this day, it's still exciting for me when I put in new fish. I just wanted to share the pics/news with you all. My bad grammar might have made me a bit obnoxious that's why my wife is typing for me now!!! :razz: :lol: The fish all appear to be doing well. They are eating and not fighting. I'll try to answer your posts.
I have medication on hand - it's a special mixture of Rx that I've come up with. Tried & tested & working - in Chinese I've been calling it the "Magic Brew".
The water is changed once/week from my friend - he's owns an aquarium maintenance service. I'll post soon having dinner.
thanks

Good to hear! Can't wait to see the pictures!!!

300g 03-28-2009 03:20 AM

Pics
 
Here's the link to the pics....
http://300gallonmarch09.shutterfly.com
Again, thanks for everyone's replies. I just wanted to share my experience. I am online often reading up on everyone but don't post often due to my limited grammar! Wife's helping right now!!!

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-28-2009 03:32 AM

WOW! Stunning fish you have!!!

Your tank is very nice too. Great aquascape. Love the big Naso.

How long you had this tank up?

targa81 03-28-2009 03:32 AM

Oh, the horror. I hope the pictures are optical illusions. They are beautiful fish just look very cramped.

digital-audiophile 03-28-2009 03:40 AM

What size is your tank? I am assuming 300 Gallons but what are the dimensions, looks short but tall.

300g 03-28-2009 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 404793)
WOW! Stunning fish you have!!!

Your tank is very nice too. Great aquascape. Love the big Naso.

How long you had this tank up?


I converted from a 120 gallon and got this tank custom made shipped up from US. This one's been up for about 1 yr now. The bigger rocks are from J&L last 3 big pieces they had from Tonga Beach about 150lb.

300g 03-28-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile (Post 404795)
what size is your tank? I am assuming 300 gallons but what are the dimensions, looks short but tall.

60"l x 30"w x 36"h

Pazil 03-28-2009 04:09 AM

Awesome looking fish.... keep up the pics and progress

Cheers

300g 03-28-2009 04:13 AM

i will try to post video tmr !!
thanks

Madreefer 03-28-2009 05:24 AM

Wow! Nice big fish you have there! Any pics of your equipment? Or the nano in the back. I like your tank setup. I hope it works good for you.

Trigger Man 03-28-2009 05:25 AM

Ya nice looking tank, good to see that you've been doing this for a while and have a great cleaning routine. Your tank looks really clean. From the dimensions that you posted for your tank it is actually bigger then it looks in the pics.

dkcrx 03-28-2009 06:27 AM

looks great, nice to have a friend to help with the maintanance.
A water change every week, I wish I could be that consistant. I'm lucky if i get one done every 6-8weeks.

Leah 03-28-2009 10:44 AM

All those fish, wow expensive i bet. I would love a tank like yours. It is Beautiful.
Will you be selling the some fish eventually ? You must share your secrets with us.
And your english is pretty good so do not feel bad, thank-you for sharing with us.
Welcome!

digital-audiophile 03-28-2009 02:57 PM

The tank is bigger than it looks in the picture... allthough I would like to see where the livestock stand in a week a month a year from now. That is indeed a lot of BIG fish, way too many IMO.

steve fedyk 03-28-2009 03:35 PM

A very nice tank looking tank, with beautiful fish.:biggrin:

my2rotties 03-28-2009 03:56 PM

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tang daddy 03-28-2009 04:00 PM

300g nice tank!!

As a angel lover I can appreciate all your beautiful fish and time you spent to set it up......

And there is a good reason why you should add a few angels at a time, so it causes less stress on the fish but more importantly so the other fish don't kill the new comer. The best time to add new fish is when the other fish are sleeping, I've heard that new fish have a certain smell to them and this among other things trigger the other fish to attack them.

Make sure you do diligence on the water changes atleast 30% a week or 50% every 2 weeks.

My 90g that I'm currently shutting down had alot of angels before and doing WC weekly helped to clean the water and keep the fish healthy.

Also I found that if you chop up a sheet of nori seaweed to little pieces and presoak then all the fish will get a chance to eat even the small ones. you should try to also feed them a chopped up mixture of clams mussels, silversides, and smelt. The smelt is the same fish we eat in chinese restaurants deep fried..... it's gut is packed with eggs I now feed this to all my fish twice a week and believe that they will store some of the fatty acids and vitamins which inturn will boost the immunity of the fish.

cheers and be sure to post more pics of the hawaiian emporer, I love christmas island emporers!!

300g 03-28-2009 05:53 PM

This is 300g's wife. He's at work today and won't be able to see everyone's posts til later but I'm sure he'll get me to explain what this person meant and what the other meant. I normally don't get involved with his fish hobby other than occassionally going to BigAl's/J&L..with him to see what he wants to pickup next or be the occassional translator as needed when he needs to order his tank or equipment online. I only started following his thread cuz I'm amused by all the "stirred" up comments. He was so excited yesterday that he called me at work to read up on the comments and translate to him. I am sure he will take all the constructive critism in stride cuz that's the way he is - what's life without learning by experience & other fellow hobbiers. I assume you all as fish fanatics hope that his tank ends up doing well. As for the recommendation of pouring bleach into the tank and walk away-yep, plain nasty. Maybe some of you are waiting for the moment to say "I told you so...". Well, again, not knowing much about this hobby + the ramifications of this supposedly crowded tank - I still hope my hubby gets his chance to say he did ok!! Thanks & Cheers all :wink:!!

my2rotties 03-28-2009 07:02 PM

There are many awesome members on these forums... I think your husband's tank and fish are beautiful, and hope the very best for both of you. If he does need help, I do hope he comes here for help, because there are members that want him to succeed and for his fish to thrive. These forums are a wealth of info, and although there are some jaded and not so nice members, there are countless wonderful members.

Please do keep posting pictures, the tank is amazing to look at!!! I am glad you are a part of your husband's hobby, since I know he appreciates it more then he will tell you. Thanks for sticking up for him as well...

Diana

naesco 03-28-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300g (Post 404944)
This is 300g's wife. He's at work today and won't be able to see everyone's posts til later but I'm sure he'll get me to explain what this person meant and what the other meant. I normally don't get involved with his fish hobby other than occassionally going to BigAl's/J&L..with him to see what he wants to pickup next or be the occassional translator as needed when he needs to order his tank or equipment online. I only started following his thread cuz I'm amused by all the "stirred" up comments. He was so excited yesterday that he called me at work to read up on the comments and translate to him. I am sure he will take all the constructive critism in stride cuz that's the way he is - what's life without learning by experience & other fellow hobbiers. I assume you all as fish fanatics hope that his tank ends up doing well. As for the recommendation of pouring bleach into the tank and walk away-yep, plain nasty. Maybe some of you are waiting for the moment to say "I told you so...". Well, again, not knowing much about this hobby + the ramifications of this supposedly crowded tank - I still hope my hubby gets his chance to say he did ok!! Thanks & Cheers all :wink:!!

Let me summarize what I 'think' most of the posters who have posted and many who have not posted are concerned about.

Your husband appears to have had experience in keeping fish and has a suitably sized tank to accommodate the larger fish. The concerns may be.
1. Large naso tangs and large angels are notorious for going on a hunger strike and as a result refuse to eat despite the best efforts of the reefer and die.
2. Angels are very sensitive fish and are subject to stress more so than many species. Keeping so many so quickly simply increases the likelihood that they will not have time to to accommodate themselves to their new environment and will die of stress.

The fact is that some have already died and some are sick which does not bode well for the future.

I am surprised that a reputable LFS would sell you so many of these species without warning you. LFS know the potential as often they are unable to get these fish to feed.
Of course all of us pray that the fish do survive.

IMO opinion success in this hobby requires patience. IMO the fun part is going to the LFS on a fairly regular basis, seeing a fish we like, reading up on its requirements and buying it, and than adding more over time.
Success is much more important than pictures. Reading up about the proposed fish purchase asking questions on this board avoids 'the learning experience' you spoke of because it avoids unnecessary fish death.
Keep us updated on their welfare. Thank you

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-28-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naesco (Post 404974)
Let me summarize what I 'think' most of the posters who have posted and many who have not posted are concerned about.

Your husband appears to have had experience in keeping fish and has a suitably sized tank to accommodate the larger fish. The concerns may be.
1. Large naso tangs and large angels are notorious for going on a hunger strike and as a result refuse to eat despite the best efforts of the reefer and die.
2. Angels are very sensitive fish and are subject to stress more so than many species. Keeping so many so quickly simply increases the likelihood that they will not have time to to accommodate themselves to their new environment and will die of stress.

The fact is that some have already died and some are sick which does not bode well for the future.

I am surprised that a reputable LFS would sell you so many of these species without warning you. LFS know the potential as often they are unable to get these fish to feed.
Of course all of us pray that the fish do survive.

IMO opinion success in this hobby requires patience. IMO the fun part is going to the LFS on a fairly regular basis, seeing a fish we like, reading up on its requirements and buying it, and than adding more over time.
Success is much more important than pictures. Reading up about the proposed fish purchase asking questions on this board avoids 'the learning experience' you spoke of because it avoids unnecessary fish death.
Keep us updated on their welfare. Thank you

I pretty much agree with this and think most do. Personally I don't see anything wrong with the amount of fish and fish choices BUT adding them all at once is indeed asking for trouble. I think everyone hopes and wishes they do well, for the sake of the animals who didn't have a say in the matter...except one person of course who wishes to kill all your fish with bleach for no apparent reason. Still can't believe someone said that :(

I also agree with Wayne when he says half the fun is adding fish over time! But thats just me. I love knowing right now that I have quite a lot of room still in my tank to add more fish. Well I probably only have room for one more big fish but I have loads of room for little guys ;)

Please don't be deterred by the one or two negative comments and keep posting. You have a great tank.

There are many things about this hobby that many people will not agree on. I for one don't care so much about tank size as I do about how well the fish look and get along and yours looks great IMO.

Good luck.


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