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BozoTheClownfish 02-04-2003 05:44 AM

What Lighting?
 
Hi everyone,

I'm brand-new to the hobby, and I'm starting out with a little 10 gallon. I'm not going to be very ambitious with it, just a clownfish (they're cool!) and some softies (mushrooms, polyps, xenia). Possibly some LPS, if they're easy.

What kind of lighting should I get? As I said, I'm not very ambitious so I don't want to get something that's totally overkill.

One idea was to use an ordinary incandescent hood with screw-in sockets, but use 2 x 24W 5000K self-ballasted PC bulbs instead.

JBJ Lighting also has this clamp-on http://www.jbjlighting.com/sys_clamp_on.html model. How does the 36W combo white/actinic compare with the idea above?

Thanks!

Bob I 02-04-2003 03:10 PM

Re: What Lighting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BozoTheClownfish
Hi everyone,

What kind of lighting should I get? As I said, I'm not very ambitious so I don't want to get something that's totally overkill.

One idea was to use an ordinary incandescent hood with screw-in sockets, but use 2 x 24W 5000K self-ballasted PC bulbs instead.

I use a similar setup on my refugium, but with a 6500K bulb instead. That setup works well, and is probably less expensive.

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JBJ Lighting also has this clamp-on http://www.jbjlighting.com/sys_clamp_on.html model. How does the 36W combo white/actinic compare with the idea above?
That looks really nice, but what is the cost? I have used the CSL 32W smartlights, and still do on my 20 gallon nano. I do like them very much, but the downside is the expense. They are around $150.00 each. I have two plus a 2x13W brightlite kit from AHsupply.com in a homemade top on that tank.

Thanks![/quote]

CHEAPREEF 02-04-2003 03:31 PM

You could try somthing like this, http://www.yfsinternational.com/category.asp?id=PL-H/5U They come in 65watt and 100watt. The cost with ballast is $68 and $85 And are 6500k.

Clinton

BozoTheClownfish 02-04-2003 09:38 PM

How about http://www.ahsupply.com? Any opinions on these guys?

It looks like a 2x36W system with enclosure and bulbs would only cost around $150USD.

AJ_77 02-04-2003 10:03 PM

They have a good reputation, you can also check out this site for hoods:

http://www.petsupplyliquidator.com/htm/mnu_ahoods.htm

Bob I 02-05-2003 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BozoTheClownfish
How about http://www.ahsupply.com? Any opinions on these guys?

It looks like a 2x36W system with enclosure and bulbs would only cost around $150USD.

I have bought stuff from them, and I am happy except for converting to Cdn funds. You usually have to count on double when all is said and done. I think with a little more looking you can do much better than that. :D

dave111 02-05-2003 01:55 AM

If you go to king ed pets, they sale a power compact 32watt reto kit with ballast,tube,reflecter, and wiring
for $86.00. ask for Eric.dave

Mak 02-05-2003 07:22 AM

Go with what dave111 said, that seems to be the best price. It would probably cost around that to do a DIY hood... assuming you wanted some kind of Actinic lighting :wink: . All thee above will allow you to keep Polyps, Shrooms, Xenia and most LPS.

And BTW most LPS are easy to keep along as you provide good water conditions, ample lighting and also some really seem to do much better when target fed.

BozoTheClownfish 02-05-2003 05:24 PM

I just called King Ed, they've got them in. Seems like a great deal, I think I'll go that way.

Thanks dave111, and everyone else too, for your valuable input! :D

Bob I 02-05-2003 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave111
If you go to king ed pets, they sale a power compact 32watt reto kit with ballast,tube,reflecter, and wiring
for $86.00. ask for Eric.dave

Would you happen to know if that is the Custom Sea Life retro kit, which comes complete with the 32W Smartlite? I have two of those, and they cost quite a bit more from MOPS. :(

BozoTheClownfish 02-05-2003 08:57 PM

Eric said they were CustomSeaLife.

Bob I 02-05-2003 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BozoTheClownfish
Eric said they were CustomSeaLife.

If you look at my site (20G Minireef), you can see what that lighting looks like. My 20 is lit with two CSL retro kits, and one AHSupply 2x13W Brightlite kit. With just one 32W kit you can grow any softies you want. That is what I had on my 10 Gallon Nano, and it did just fine.

Samw 02-05-2003 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcipema

Would you happen to know if that is the Custom Sea Life retro kit, which comes complete with the 32W Smartlite? I have two of those, and they cost quite a bit more from MOPS. :(


Yup. That's the right price for King Ed complete with ballast, smartlite 50/50 bulb, reflector, wiring nuts and switch. I got my Custom Sealife kits from there too.

Bob I 02-06-2003 12:00 AM

[quote="Samw"]
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Yup. That's the right price for King Ed complete with ballast, smartlite 50/50 bulb, reflector, wiring nuts and switch. I got my Custom Sealife kits from there too.
I paid $119.99 at MOPS, and on top of that $3.95 shipping :cry: :cry:

BC_Grl 02-06-2003 02:23 AM

Bob,
What is MOPS? The only MOPS I've heard of is Mothers Of Pre-School children -hehe.

christyf5 02-06-2003 03:08 AM

Mail Order Pet Supply. Its based out of Ontario I think.

www.mops.on.ca

BCOrchidGuy 02-06-2003 03:38 AM

I got the 96watt smart lite CSL retro kit from Eric for $135, then when I decided two weeks later to upgrade to an enclosed twin MH/twn NO Actinic unit he gave me $125 credit for the retro kits, he sold them as used for $125 a half an hour after I brought them in.
King Ed is with out a doubt the cheapest place to get stuff, Eric is the big guy, gruff voice and bad teeth, BUT he knows his stuff, I've been dealing with him for years and he has yet to steer me wrong.

Skimmerking 02-19-2003 02:16 PM

the lighting
 
in ref to them isthe 96er the only one light you get and can you get a actinic to.

So in a nut shell you get for 135 CDN dollars
1x 96 50/50 bulb, ballast, endcaps, wiring, and the plug.
and how long is the 96 watt bulb?
and one more question does he have a web page...

mike

Samw 02-19-2003 04:47 PM

Mike, I know you can get also a 10k and an actinic lamp from Custom Sea Life for that kit. There are probably other manufacturers and color temps as well. Yes, the kit comes with the bulb, ballast (w/ switch and plug), endcaps, and a reflector as well. The price at King Ed Pets is no longer $135. That was an introductory price. The current price is either $159 or $169. King Ed Pets does not have a web page that I'm aware of.

BCOrchidGuy 02-19-2003 05:44 PM

King Ed doesn't have a web site, the price is $159 now, it is still a bargain.


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