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Chin_Lee 02-06-2007 06:34 AM

To all BECKETT SKIMMER owners
 
check out this tread on RC on improving bubble sizes on beckett skimmers.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=958085

I'm going to try this over the weekend and post some before and after shoots with a needle taped for comparison.

kari 02-06-2007 12:31 PM

It can also be done by switching the Beckett for the nozzle sold by Canadian Tire. Water flow rate seemed to increase, the air flow rate was unchanged but noticed the bubble size was reduced. Tried it on two differant skimmers/pumps.

Jason McK 02-06-2007 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kari (Post 234472)
It can also be done by switching the Beckett for the nozzle sold by Canadian Tire.

I have heard of this but can never find it. Can you find a link.

Chin, are you going to get a second injector? Were are you going to get it?

J

Delphinus 02-06-2007 04:51 PM

Sigh ... sounds interesting but I really wish they could be more descriptive than "I sealed it and then drilled holes in it". :rolleyes: Or at least have the decency to post a picture of the modification for those that are like me (i.e., only semi-DIY competent) and can't picture what they're talking about without a visual.

Chin_Lee 02-06-2007 05:21 PM

Beckett
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 234510)
Sigh ... sounds interesting but I really wish they could be more descriptive than "I sealed it and then drilled holes in it". :rolleyes: Or at least have the decency to post a picture of the modification for those that are like me (i.e., only semi-DIY competent) and can't picture what they're talking about without a visual.

Tony, read into the 4 to 6 pages and they have some pics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason McK (Post 234483)
I have heard of this but can never find it. Can you find a link.
Chin, are you going to get a second injector? Were are you going to get it?
J

I need to find that Canadian tire nozzle too... haven't seen it locally

Jason i have some extra beckett heads lying around and some injector assemblies already. I'm looking to decrease the length of my smaller riser and add 11 inch to the main riser. then i might add a second injector if this mod gives better performance at slightly lower psi from a md-70rlt. I'll see.

Chin_Lee 02-06-2007 05:50 PM

test
 
OK I'm going to try this mod and here are the before and after pics.
Skimmer specs:
DIY skimmer with 11L x 7.5W x 9H box
Main riser is 17.5" high x 6" OD x 5.5" ID
Secondary riser is 14.5" high x 4" OD and 3.5" ID
Pump - Iwaki 70RLT through one beckett injector

This is the pic of the whole skimmer and the two nails are taped on to the middle of both risers. I had just cleaned the top part last night and this has been running for about 11 hours since the clean.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_1809.jpg
As previously posted, I'm looking to reduce the smaller riser by 11 inches and increase the big riser by 11 inch. But for this test, they will remain as is for the time being.

Macro shot of bubbles in big riser
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...cture001-1.jpg

Macro shot of bubble in small riser
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...cture005-1.jpg

So my intention is to plug up the hole with silicone and then drill 20 x 1/16 holes into the beckett housing. I will then take photos, then increase the number of holes by 5 at a time and take photos again, until I get what I want to achieve in terms of foam production.

Don't hold your breath for an update soon.... wil probably take me a few days at least.

littlesilvermax 02-06-2007 06:07 PM

Tagging along.

I may try this too, but my bubbles in my beckett look really really small to me.

I would take a pic, but don't have a working camera right now.

Could you take a pic with a penny taped to the side for better comparison purposes?

Chin_Lee 02-06-2007 07:34 PM

I'll try
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littlesilvermax (Post 234526)
Tagging along.

I may try this too, but my bubbles in my beckett look really really small to me.

I would take a pic, but don't have a working camera right now.

Could you take a pic with a penny taped to the side for better comparison purposes?

I'll try to remember tonight... if I can afford it....

KrazyKuch 02-06-2007 08:58 PM

Great Mod Let me know how it works out for you

kari 02-07-2007 04:11 AM

Quote:

I need to find that Canadian tire nozzle too... haven't seen it locally
I can't find it on-line either. If visiting a Canadian Tire store there may be issues since it is usually in there seasonal stuff. Someone in the store will need to search for it in the storage area:neutral: .

whiteice669 02-07-2007 04:48 AM

hey kari, you got a canadian tire part # for that ?

KrazyKuch 02-07-2007 05:53 AM

Asfar as I know they no longer sell it, cause it used to be on their webpage ut it's not their anymore....it's made by wetlands

Chin_Lee 02-07-2007 05:57 PM

Stoked
 
well i was so stoked about doing this, i did it last night.
Here's the pic of the whole skimmer (with pennies taped on)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...oleskimmer.jpg

BUBBLES IN MAIN RISER BEFORE MODIFICATION:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture002.jpg

BUBBLES IN SECONDARY RISER BEFORE MODIFICATION:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture009.jpg

MOD PICS:
BECKETT NOZZLE DISASSEMBLED PLUGGED WITH EPOXY
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture016.jpg
BECKETT NOZZLE ASSEMBLED
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture017.jpg
BECKETT NOZZLE SHAVED
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture018.jpg
BECKETT NOZZLE DRILLED
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture022.jpg

BUBBLES IN MAIN RISER ~1 MINUTE AFTER MODIFICATION:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture032.jpg

BUBBLES IN SECONDARY RISER ~2 MINUTES AFTER MODIFICATION:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture029.jpg

Chin_Lee 02-07-2007 05:59 PM

Can you see the difference?
 
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture002.jpghttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture002.jpg


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture009.jpghttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture029.jpg

Chin_Lee 02-07-2007 06:11 PM

More pics tonight
 
i'll take more pics tonight after its been running for about 12 hours.

littlesilvermax 02-07-2007 06:50 PM

Dem tiny bubbles!

When I get a camera I will do the same with non-modded skimmer.

Psyire 02-07-2007 07:42 PM

hmm... I don't really see much of a difference?

Chin_Lee 02-08-2007 06:07 AM

12 hours later
 
OK here are the pics 12 hours later.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture051.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture050.jpg

I personally don't see much of a difference. Mind you the bubbles were already pretty small to start of with even prior to the modification.
I would like for somebody who's using a mak4 on a beckett skimmer to try the same mod.

danny zubot 02-08-2007 06:57 PM

reply
 
Chin, your bubbles were a lot smaller to start with than most Beckets I've seen. I can't see much of a difference either.

Maybe there is a threshold to how small bubbles can get, and your skimmer had already achieved it. I'd still be interested to see other peoples results with this mod.

Chin_Lee 02-16-2007 06:50 AM

Definite pro to this modification
 
Its been just over a week since I've done this mod and the bubble sizes have not changed.
BUT I want to mention that I have not had to clean my skimmer since ....... OK not completely true cuz i had to squirt water in the collection cup so i could see the foam on top. But I haven't had to remove the top riser to clean it out because once I had set the air valve to achieve the foam level to spurt over the top, i have not had the air valve clog up on me since.
Without any change to the bubble sizes that I can visually observe, I will still recommend this modification to beckett owners because it didn't decrease the performance any and for me, i had not have to clean the skimmer for a week. I'll post the next time i do have to clean the skimmer riser.

Cazoom 02-18-2007 11:19 PM

Ct part number
 
i have 2 of these fountain heads still in box (no more available in Sask i got em)
part is discontinued but if you ask they will go find for you in back stock)
last time i looked on their computer Alberta had a few left!!

Wetlands fountain head "foamjet" 59-7755-4
good luck on finding them..
now i need a good skimmer to try on!!
Price was $9.00 as is discontinued

KrazyKuch 02-21-2007 01:37 AM

I wonder if they are able to order them still??? as in like a Special Order

Chin_Lee 02-21-2007 01:41 AM

for sale
 
I have about 4-5 beckeet injectors in my pile of DIY material if anybody's interested in them. PM if interested.

robzilla 05-26-2008 01:25 AM

i know this is an old post, but any updates chin?
still recommend drilling the extra holes?

thanks
rob

Chin_Lee 05-26-2008 03:48 AM

hard to say since i've had it so long. can't remember what it was like before and after. looking at my old pictures, i can't say it made any difference in my bubble size but it did for others on RC


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