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Delphinus 01-26-2005 04:13 PM

The Norton on my Dell
 
The Norton on my Dell

The Norton on my Dell

High hopes for not crashing, oh

The Norton on my Dell.




(AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!)

Bob I 01-26-2005 04:18 PM

Sung to the tune of "Farmer in the dell" no doubt. :grab:

Good show almost 3600 posts now. :biggrin:

Doug 01-26-2005 04:43 PM

:drinking:

Invigor 01-26-2005 09:49 PM

why is it that anything made by norton is a HUGE resourse hog?

christyf5 01-26-2005 11:37 PM

try AVG. its better IMO.

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

AJ_77 01-26-2005 11:47 PM

better = way smaller! so far so good...

dumped all my norton stuff - bloated beyond recognition.

Veng68 01-27-2005 01:10 AM

I can't compalin about norton :) One of my clients get me a new one every year :)

I heard that Russian one....... Kamensky or something like that is pretty good.

Cheers,
Vic [Veng68]

Delphinus 01-27-2005 01:16 AM

What drives me BONKERS is how many things it breaks.

Norton used to be really good. But Norton Firewall, XP firewall, and hubs just don't play nice with each other.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to get remote desktop going on MCE. Arrrggghhh!!! You wouldn't believe how friggin PAINFUL this crap is.

Sigh .. off to waste another six hours trying to get this stupid network going.

Quinn 01-27-2005 01:27 AM

I installed Norton GoBack by mistake the other day... my computer crashes when I try to remove it... :rolleyes:

Quinster 01-27-2005 02:00 AM

I have NSW 2005 Premier...I get the new one every year "FREE" if you know what I mean....I have had no problems with it yet, am also using a router with firewall and had no conflicts with it either...allthough I will agree it is a hog, but the only resource I leave running is the antivirus option...

Willow 01-27-2005 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5

i concur! very tight package.. and the price is right :mrgreen:

Bob I 01-27-2005 03:23 AM

Maybe not being a top flight computer weenie helps. I have run Norton AV for years, and pay every year for the privilege. I never have a problem, and have never gotten a virus. :eek:

Delphinus 01-27-2005 03:35 AM

I'm happy with the virus protection it offers.

I'm not happy with the firewall and other "security" features.

For the AV stuff, it's not bad.

But let's not even get into the rest of it...

Aquattro 01-27-2005 05:10 AM

Symantec Anti-Virus works really well, especially in a corporate environment. Easily managed, easily updated and had great reporting. We keep the virus definitions current, and it catches anything that gets into our intranet.
The actual management console crashes a lot, but a quick reinstall fixes it every time!! :razz:

Willow 01-27-2005 05:22 AM

seriously.. agv is a nice av package, it auto updates itself and catches things norton never did on my machine.. i actually trust agv on my download machine that trolls usenet and bit torrent sites. if you ever wanted to test out your av program hit usenet for a few hours and you will see it kick into high gear. the machine has been up and running for over a year running agv and spybot with no firewall. never had a problem.

BCWolfen 01-27-2005 06:06 AM

We've been VERY disapointed with Norton 2k4 and 2k5 to the point that we've stopped selling it. We have been running and selling Panda Titanium for over a year now with very few problems. It is a far smaller package than Norton, updates more frequently and finds more virii. Extremly pleased with the product. The new 2k5 comes with adware scans and a firewall. Don't bother installing the firewall. Any 3rd party firewalls tend to have issues if the XP firewall is running. Also any software firewall can be hacked by any 15 yr old kid by downloading tools off the internet. If you want firewall, buy a router. They are cheap and 1000% more effective than any software firewall will ever be, and they do not use any system resources.

If your cheap, I agree that AVG is good. But you get what you pay for. The free versions are usually further behind in their updates than the corpprate guys.

Norton says it will have a fix for any new virus within 3 days. Their live update file is usually only updated every Tuesday. You can go and manually grab the new definitions. The nice thing about Panda is, they guarantee a fix within 3 hours of discovering a new virus and their definitions are updated immediately. There have been many days where I have seen my Panda notice pop up 3-8 times over the course of a day with 3-20 new virus definitions each time. We're quite impressed.

There is an issue with Panda 2k5 and AMD 64's but the patch to correct it is available on their website.

If you would like to check out your system with their free online scan (which last time I checked was still removing found virii at no cost) go to
www.pandasoftware.com

Hope that helps.

Delphinus 01-27-2005 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWolfen
If you want firewall, buy a router. They are cheap and 1000% more effective than any software firewall will ever be,

Exactly .........

Anyhow, about 12 hours later, my network seems to be OK. File sharing OK (not sure what happened, just spontaneously started working). Finally got RTS going on the media PC. Got SP2 installed. Got the DivX codec going in MCE. I'm soooo almost there, yippeee!!

Except that now my sound doesn't work. :confused:
Stuck on mute. {sigh} Oh well, I guess I can lip read when I watch TV while I figure out what the .... happened there.

Willow 01-27-2005 06:43 AM

i basicaly stopped running firewalls because they are a waste of time. when someone builds a software version that works let me know.

Delphinus 01-27-2005 06:48 AM

LOL yes ... that was the gyst of my original rant. :mrgreen:

g'nite

StirCrazy 01-27-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWolfen
We have been running and selling Panda Titanium for over a year now with very few problems.

I know, I have had to uninstall it off 3 of the computers your store down here sold due to conflicts. I don't really understand the problem with Norton I have been using both products for 5 or more years and I still like them. never a conflict, if a special virus is found they put out a special update. I don't find they are hogs at all, well I used to but that was when I had an underpowered computer for what I was doing.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWolfen
. If you want firewall, buy a router. They are cheap and 1000% more effective than any software firewall will ever be, and they do not use any system resources.
.

Up and boy are they fun to set up if you want to do more than brows web pages. :rolleyes: very time consuming and if you don't know what your doing with ports ect.. then this is not the option for you.

Steve

Scavenger 01-27-2005 08:01 PM

Re: The Norton on my Dell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus
The Norton on my Dell

The Norton on my Dell

High hopes for not crashing, oh

The Norton on my Dell.




(AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!)

Don't forget that classic tune

Wasted my cash again on Margarita snails
Lookin for my lost bucket of salt
Some people say that there's hair algae to blame
But I know
It's the damn skimmers fault.

BCWolfen 01-27-2005 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy
I know, I have had to uninstall it off 3 of the computers your store down here sold due to conflicts.

I've heard that from a few of the stores. There is a big internal debate going right now as to which is the best. I guess just like anything its going to come down to personal preference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy
I don't really understand the problem with Norton I have been using both products for 5 or more years and I still like them. I don't find they are hogs at all, well I used to but that was when I had an underpowered computer for what I was doing.

I never used anything other than Norton up to and including 2k3. Its just the 2k4 and 2k5 that they have turned into monsters. lol You are correct if you have a good computer they are fine. I've installed and have seen them running on newer pc's, and they do work great. Unfortunately only about 30% of the people out there have PC big enough to run it. I had a fellow in yesterday with a PII - 60MB ram with the full Norton securities installed. He was wondering why his PC was so slow. Now its easy to say get a better PC, but when all he uses it for is to check email and browse the web, why should he have to spend $500.00 on a new rig. Thats my only problem with Norton, is they do not have a new solution for older PC's. We bumped this fellow to 128MB with an old 64 MB stick and installed panda and the pc works fine (dead slow as far as I'm concerned LOL but he loves it)

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy
Up and boy are they fun to set up if you want to do more than brows web pages. :rolleyes: very time consuming and if you don't know what your doing with ports ect.. then this is not the option for you.

You do have a point about port forwarding. Its definately a scary process for someone whos never done it before. Its a piece of cake if you've done it once or twice. But again I'd say most people will never need it. You can surf, email, and game without it. Yes some of the gamespy networks etc require fwd'd ports but I figure if your a gamer and know how to setup and get connected to a server, port fwding shouldn't be that hard.

Bottom line, just as with anything intel vs AMD, ford vs chevy, coke vs pepsi everyone will have their own preferences. I say use what works for you. Don't change something thats working for you just because someone else thinks their way is better.

christyf5 01-27-2005 09:46 PM

What the heck is are virii?? :razz:

Christy :)

BCWolfen 01-27-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5
What the heck is are virii?? :razz:

Christy :)

Virii is the plural of virus. Most people say virus's which although incorrect is slowing become the standard.

Griffin 01-27-2005 09:58 PM

I have been using Kaspersky since last year - runs great, no huge resources taken up. Basically i have yet to find a flaw

christyf5 01-27-2005 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWolfen
Quote:

Originally Posted by christyf5
What the heck is are virii?? :razz:

Christy :)

Virii is the plural of virus. Most people say virus's which although incorrect is slowing become the standard.

Ya must be new or related only to computer viruses. I did a google search and only found it in the computer world.

I did find an interesting article on it though and yes I am having an extremely boring day at work :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus

That webpage was enough to make me want to go back to work :razz:

Christy :)

Willow 01-27-2005 10:17 PM

i don't think its new, the term has been kicking around since the days i had a 9600 baud modem.

BCWolfen 01-27-2005 10:47 PM

Ugh!! Your right. That was more than enough virii, viri, virus, virues debate than I can handle. hahaha


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