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Myka 12-15-2015 01:24 PM

Aquaforest probiotic method
 
Well, there's another player in the game!

Aquaforest is a probiotic-based method like Zeovit, Prodibio, Fauna Marin, Tropic Marin, etc. It uses a probiotic salt (like Tropic Marin) and zeolith media, and there are daily additives though it is simpler than the Zeovit method. They three different salts and additives for everything from FOWLR to mixed reef, to high-demand SPS dominant tanks. As with most European-based companies, they advocate T5 or halide+T5 systems, and the method can be adapted for RICH SPS colors or pastel (like you see with Zeovit).

The company is based in Poland, and the products have been quickly gaining popularity across the pond. There is quite a stir in the last few months on Reef Central, and a US distributor just received stock in November. Aquaforest told me on RC to expect a Canadian distributor in March. I'm excited to try this method out.

Check out Debora's tank from Poland on RC: www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2338895
Aquaforest website: http://aquaforest-reef.co.uk/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Aquaforest/
Guide: http://aquaforest.eu/wp-content/uplo...de-English.pdf

Pics from Debora's tank:
http://coralfarm.eu/wp-content/uploa...j%C4%99cia.jpg

Delphinus 12-15-2015 04:43 PM

The pictures are certainly drool worthy!

Aquattro 12-15-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 974121)
The pictures are certainly drool worthy!

almost makes me want to fire up the Zeo again :)

Geo 12-16-2015 12:43 AM

No need to wait if you got deep pockets, looks like aqua forest is selling on Amazon.ca

http://www.amazon.ca/Aquaforest-Prob...0229908&sr=1-2

I'm thinking about trying this. I live close enough to the border I might run down and grab some.

Wheelman76 12-16-2015 12:51 AM

$98 bucket makes 30 gallons? Am I reading that right?

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...bb0d225bb6.jpg

Geo 12-16-2015 01:04 AM

It's a typo. If you read the product description it says 380 gals.

Myka 12-16-2015 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 974154)
No need to wait if you got deep pockets, looks like aqua forest is selling on Amazon.ca

I didn't know that! I saw it on Amazon.com and shipping was outrageous. I'll be ordering this up soon then! I don't know what you mean about deep pockets -it's cheaper than Zeovit and Tropic Marin.

Wheelman76 12-16-2015 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 974160)
It's a typo. If you read the product description it says 380 gals.


No it says 380g (grams) of salt will make 10 litres of water

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 974160)
It's a typo. If you read the product description it says 380 gals.

Its 380g = 380 grams can be mixed into 10L of water for 1.024 SG. So 22kg (22,000g) can mix up to 587L which is 152 gallons. In par with other salts.

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974163)
Its 380g = 380 grams can be mixed into 10L of water for 1.024 SG. So 22kg (22,000g) can mix up to 587L which is 152 gallons. In par with other salts.

Math is hard though :)

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 974160)
It's a typo. If you read the product description it says 380 gals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974165)
Math is hard though :)

I am sure it's not hard for you :smile:

Wheelman76 12-16-2015 01:21 AM

I just had all that typed out and you two ruined it lol

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 974161)
I didn't know that! I saw it on Amazon.com and shipping was outrageous. I'll be ordering this up soon then! I don't know what you mean about deep pockets -it's cheaper than Zeovit and Tropic Marin.

Free shipping to my address. Should I click buy? Need to buy salt anyways! :question:

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 974168)
I just had all that typed out and you two ruined it lol

his fault^

Trevor W 12-16-2015 01:29 AM

I recently stumbled upon this youtube channel which had alot of videos with aquaforest in the title:

https://www.youtube.com/user/sever1010/videos

It then lead me to their youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtx...DA8DcbQ/videos

Looks like really interesting stuff, will be nice to hear some other peoples experiences with it as it makes its way to North America

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 974168)
I just had all that typed out and you two ruined it lol

Ops sorry :redface:

Just bought a pail. Will be getting it before Christmas :mrgreen: I used to use reefer's best anyways and the price is almost the same. Plus it comes with a marked cup :biggrin:

Geo 12-16-2015 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 974161)
I didn't know that! I saw it on Amazon.com and shipping was outrageous. I'll be ordering this up soon then! I don't know what you mean about deep pockets -it's cheaper than Zeovit and Tropic Marin.

My bad, I was comparing this to the price of the standard reef salt on salty supply.

This is actually cheaper than their sale price of 77 U.S. a pail.

Sweet, easy access and better than us pricing. I'm in.

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:32 AM

Here's an "scientific" (well kind of) article on several salts including AF:

http://reefhub.pl/test-soli-drugie-starcie/

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974177)
Ops sorry :redface:

Just bought a pail. Will be getting it before Christmas :mrgreen: I used to use reefer's best anyways and the price is almost the same. Plus it comes with a marked cup :biggrin:

I live on an island, I have to use salt from the grocery store now. I can't even buy RBS here.

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974180)
I live on an island, I have to use salt from the grocery store now. I can't even buy RBS here.

Doesn't anyone ship to your place?

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 974178)
My bad, I was comparing this to the price of the standard reef salt on salty supply.

This is actually cheaper than their sale price of 77 U.S. a pail.

Sweet, easy access and better than us pricing. I'm in.

Last bucket so you might wanna pull the trigger quickly!

WarDog 12-16-2015 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974179)
Here's an "scientific" (well kind of) article on several salts including AF:

http://reefhub.pl/test-soli-drugie-starcie/

In Polish?

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 974184)
In Polish?

You don't read Polish? Cretin..

Myka 12-16-2015 01:35 AM

Regarding the typo, the 22kg bucket makes about 150 gallons at 1.024 according to my calculations. It says 380 grams of salt makes 10 liters of saltwater at 1.024. So 22 kg should make 150 gallons.

WarDog 12-16-2015 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974185)
You don't read Polish? Cretin..

Itch de hollari!

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 974184)
In Polish?

The translation is there at the top right corner (the flags).

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 974186)
Regarding the typo, the 22kg bucket makes about 150 gallons at 1.024 according to my calculations. It says 380 grams of salt makes 10 liters of saltwater at 1.024. So 22 kg should make 150 gallons.

So, regarding the not reading previous posts :)

Myka 12-16-2015 01:40 AM

According to the link above for the salt testing, it takes 415 grams of Aquaforest Reef Salt (not the probiotic one) to make 10 liters of saltwater at 35 ppt (1.0264), so that would mean 22 kg bucket would make 140 gallons at 1.0264.

Myka 12-16-2015 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974189)
So, regarding the not reading previous posts :)

:lol: You guys are posting too damn fast. I read the thread on my phone, and then came on here to look at Amazon.ca and you guys blew up the thread. Go figure...

WarDog 12-16-2015 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974188)
The translation is there at the top right corner (the flags).

No flags on the phone. Too lazy to go to the computer. Probably too lazy to read it anyways. Just summarize for me in 10 words or less.

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 974193)
No flags on the phone. Too lazy to go to the computer. Probably too lazy to read it anyways. Just summarize for me in 10 words or less.

Salt good. You buy. Ok?

mrhasan 12-16-2015 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 974184)
In Polish?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974195)
Salt good. You buy. Ok?

^ This +

Quote:

Aquaforest Reef Salt - Polish salt production, which won vigorously market. You can see that the manufacturer has set a target to obtain brine that will (with a few exceptions, eg. Sulfur, strontium, barium, iodine, iron), possible an exact copy of a natural seawater. It is also a salt, which I think stands out in terms of quality and purity substrates used. Salt AF seems to be a universal salt tanks SPSowych about the various stages of advancement, especially for those aquarists who seek to obtain the best color of their corals. This, however, will require additional supplementation. Unfortunately, the quality of the components translates into highly hygroscopic and risk petrifaction salt. According to my eye, salt AF showed the smallest clarity of all respondents salt
So great for mixing and using; no good for storing.

WarDog 12-16-2015 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974195)
Salt good. You buy. Ok?

Sure, but if Jeff no stock, me no buy.

Aquattro 12-16-2015 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 974199)
Sure, but if Jeff no stock, me no buy.

I can't even buy salt there, doesn't float.

Baker 12-16-2015 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974169)
Free shipping to my address. Should I click buy? Need to buy salt anyways! :question:

Excuse me sir.... Salt is for people who have tanks. Is it time for you to get back in?

mrhasan 12-16-2015 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker (Post 974209)
Excuse me sir.... Salt is for people who have tanks. Is it time for you to get back in?

Yes! :biggrin:

Baker 12-16-2015 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 974221)
Yes! :biggrin:

Good to hear! Same tank?

mrhasan 12-16-2015 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker (Post 974224)
Good to hear! Same tank?

Nop. Brand new one.

hunggi74 12-16-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 974207)
I can't even buy salt there, doesn't float.

There is someone on the Island that I'm sure has a boatload of salt hordes away in his or her house. He might as well open his own store over there. You know him lol

Aquattro 12-16-2015 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunggi74 (Post 974245)
There is someone on the Island that I'm sure has a boatload of salt hordes away in his or her house. He might as well open his own store over there. You know him lol

He doesn't talk to me anymore. And cheap salt. I would like to have Reefers Best available here.


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