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btuck887 01-16-2014 10:33 PM

"Salinity" salt mixing problems!!
 
I purchased a large bucket of "salinity" salt from big als on Boxing Day. Does anyone use this and how do u mix it? Does it stay cloudy?

I have mixed up a few batches and not matter how long I keep it mixing for it stays cloudy, anyone else have this problem? After removing the power head for mixing the water becomes clear but I get a lot of sediment at the bottom of the bucket? Anyone know the reason for this or what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks

Coral Hoarder 01-16-2014 10:45 PM

i ahve never used that salt but you may be adding to much or is the watter cold so it cant disolve ?

btuck887 01-16-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott tang (Post 873885)
i ahve never used that salt but you may be adding to much or is the watter cold so it cant disolve ?

Not adding to much because the salinity is 1.025 and I warm the water up when mixing

pinkreef 01-16-2014 10:49 PM

I checked on another site and others had the same problems
not mixing clear, residue on the side and bottom
one suggestion there was add a little at a time rather than the whole
measure at once.

MitchM 01-16-2014 10:50 PM

I've used it in the past and the cloudiness is normal.
It can occur from mixing it too long, actually.
Bottom line, it's not a problem.
I don't use it anymore because it was not easy to find.
I switch now between H2O and Reefers best - whichever one is available at the time.
I also never heat my water change water.

btuck887 01-16-2014 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkreef (Post 873888)
I checked on another site and others had the same problems
not mixing clear, residue on the side and bottom
one suggestion there was add a little at a time rather than the whole
measure at once.

Ya I have done a little reading, every page says something a little different. Was just looking to see if someone around here had found a solution to the problem ha

Thanks for the suggestion!!

craigwmiller 01-16-2014 11:04 PM

To avoid cloudiness (and precipitation), I've had the best luck with:

- no heater before mixing
- constant circulation during mixing
- not adding entire amount of salt at once (I mix ~40 gallons at a time, and I do it in about 3-4 chunks of adding salt, spacing the addition of salt by several hours)
- if your make-up water is still cloudy after 24 hours of mixing, and your salinity is good (I mix to 35ppt), it might just be cloudy and is likely okay to use.

btuck887 01-16-2014 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigwmiller (Post 873895)
To avoid cloudiness (and precipitation), I've had the best luck with:

- no heater before mixing
- constant circulation during mixing
- not adding entire amount of salt at once (I mix ~40 gallons at a time, and I do it in about 3-4 chunks of adding salt, spacing the addition of salt by several hours)
- if your make-up water is still cloudy after 24 hours of mixing, and your salinity is good (I mix to 35ppt), it might just be cloudy and is likely okay to use.



I'm starting to think my problem is adding the salt to fast.

After ur salt is mixed do u get a precipitate on the bottom?

mrhasan 01-16-2014 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btuck887 (Post 873898)
I'm starting to think my problem is adding the salt to fast.

After ur salt is mixed do u get a precipitate on the bottom?

Heat up the water first. Then add 1/2 + 1/2 amount 30mins to 1 hour apart and mix. No heater during mixing. And the residue it quite common, probably some binding agent or something, I get that even with H2ocean.

craigwmiller 01-16-2014 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btuck887 (Post 873898)
I'm starting to think my problem is adding the salt to fast.

After ur salt is mixed do u get a precipitate on the bottom?

No precipitation/film for most salts. Reef Crystals and Fluval leave behind some form of 'scum' after a few water changes, which I only attribute to being 'dirt' in the salt. Never caused me any issues though.


And mrhasan is correct, the heater in the bucket is the problem, not the water temperature while mixing :biggrin:

btuck887 01-16-2014 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigwmiller (Post 873902)
No precipitation/film for most salts. Reef Crystals and Fluval leave behind some form of 'scum' after a few water changes, which I only attribute to being 'dirt' in the salt. Never caused me any issues though.


And mrhasan is correct, the heater in the bucket is the problem, not the water temperature while mixing :biggrin:


So bring the water up to temp, remove the heater, add half the salt, mix for an hr then add the rest. How long do u leg it mix after that?

I have heard anywhere from a few hrs to 48

spit.fire 01-16-2014 11:22 PM

"Salinity" salt mixing problems!!
 
I use salinity

I mix it the day before with the full amount all at once and leave it sit for 24hrs and it clears up

btuck887 01-16-2014 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spit.fire (Post 873908)
I use salinity

I mix it the day before with the full amount all at once and leave it sit for 24hrs and it clears up



Do u get a lot of precipitate at the bottom?

strauss 01-16-2014 11:45 PM

salinity
 
I use the same but I mix it and use it within a few hours. It's always clear when added to tank but there is some residue in the bottom. Not much though.

btuck887 01-16-2014 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strauss (Post 873919)
I use the same but I mix it and use it within a few hours. It's always clear when added to tank but there is some residue in the bottom. Not much though.


Do u let it sit a few hrs before u use it or keep it constantly mixing up until u add it?

mrhasan 01-17-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btuck887 (Post 873920)
Do u let it sit a few hrs before u use it or keep it constantly mixing up until u add it?

I always keep on mixing the salt till I use it (with powerhead).

spit.fire 01-17-2014 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 873932)
I always keep on mixing the salt till I use it (with powerhead).

+1

jamescyr 01-17-2014 03:36 PM

Do more research!! Mix your salt as normal, put it in the tank and deal with the cloudiness for a short time. It states on the pale itself that it will be cloudy, as this is one of the only salt types that does not have a chemical in it to make it disolve faster! Instant ocean etc use a disolving agent to get rid of the cloudiness.

Speaking from experience and emails to the manufacturer directly.

Sucks. Bit outcome is much better.


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